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    Also, Parker is badass with both hands around the rim, I would say better than both of them.
    Yeah he's a better finisher for sure. Probably just a better scorer in general. His passing and ability to break down the defense for his teamates doesn't even come close though.

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    Clinging Mars - Your signature is ing up the system for some reason. Did you change it today?

    The miniscroll must die...along with big sigs.

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    I don't get the appeal of having a large sig to begin with. Is there really that much of the same thing that you want to say to people every time you make a post? Keep it simple yo.

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    I don't get the appeal of having a large sig to begin with. Is there really that much of the same thing that you want to say to people every time you make a post? Keep it simple yo.

    I don't get it either...

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    Yeah he's a better finisher for sure. Probably just a better scorer in general. His passing and ability to break down the defense for his teamates doesn't even come close though.
    True, I don't think he ever will be that type of guard. Maybe when he starts to slow down he'll look to create more. This system just doesn't need it though. Drive and kick or finish, P&R and throw into the post is what he needs to do to win and that's all that matters. He's top 3 in the west, probably the league.

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    ...he got owned by Rip Hamilton in the finals a couple of years ago for a championship. Flat out..OWNT.
    Actually, it seemed to be more of a case that he was bound and determined to be Finals MVP that year and wound up shooting them right out of the series.
    Keeping that in mind, to answer your question...........
    .........a HUGE, out of control ego!

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    What does Tony have that Kobe doesn't?

    Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.
    He also is WAY, WAY quicker than Kobes. Tony is Iverson in his prime quick, minus the horrible chucker shot selection.

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    The only similarity is that both have won 3 rings as the second weapon. However, what Parker did to the Suns yesterday was in part due to Phoenix's defensive shortcomings. Don't be surprised if Parker doesn't average 30 a game against a CP3 or Deron.
    CP3's defense reminds me of Nash. Tony might well hang 30 a game on the Hornets.

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    LOL Parker has a few good games and now he's better than Kobe? Where were you guys when he was sucking major the last 3-4 months? I distinctly remember a CP3 >>>> Parker thread on here.

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    lock-down defense..?
    dunking skills...?

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    LOL Parker has a few good games and now he's better than Kobe? Where were you guys when he was sucking major the last 3-4 months? I distinctly remember a CP3 >>>> Parker thread on here.
    Um, Tony had been battling heel/ankle problems throughout the regular season. I don't know exactly what the numbers were, but he was headed to another career best season in points, assists, turnovers and assist-to-turnover ratio prior to the injuries.

    Of course, he's not a better individual player/talent than Kobe Bryant. Yet, few players in the league are comparable to Bryant. What he does possess is a better understanding of his coach, teammates and system (without any friction) than Kobe did at a similar age. Also, he not a ego-maniac that it takes losing to "humble" him, although the other night proves that Kobe will never be humbled.

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    Size and hops for starters.

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    Well, he doesn't have a stupid French accent, effeminate body language, and a unibrow that Tony does so I guess Tony has him beat.

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    i don't have top 5 player in the world and top 5 clutch player


    on my team

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    instead....im both of those

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    about 4-5 inches and a nike endorsement.

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    So what are you guys saying? I mean aside from Magicman's clear admission that he is gay(which was completely unsolicted btw)...


    Sounds like you are saying if Kobe had Tony's teamates he'd...I don't know...win a championship or something? You mean like Tony?

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    So if Kobe can't win without Tim and Manu...how does that make him better than Parker? I mean using that logic. at worst, Tony could equal Kobe's achievement of not winning a le without Tim and Manu. ...I could not win a championship without Tim Duncan and Manu...I fail to see the great achivement there, so why are Laker fans bringing it up as if it were one?


    Basically all it means is that if Kobe need Tim and Manu to win, and Tony can win with Tim and Manu...Parker's still the better deal...

    A. He's younger.
    B. He's cheaper.
    C. He's less likely to alientate his teamates, demand to be traded, run off his HOF Bigman Partner, or break up his championship core....

    Exactly what can Kobe do that Tony can't?

    Oh that's right...he can jack up more shots.

    Wow.

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    So we should be expecting something like this?
    Yes and yes

    That will happen

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    LOL Parker has a few good games and now he's better than Kobe? Where were you guys when he was sucking major the last 3-4 months? I distinctly remember a CP3 >>>> Parker thread on here.
    We do have some quitters on this board; ususally, they jump on the bandwagon when we destroy the rest of the NBA in the playoffs

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    So if Kobe can't win without Tim and Manu...how does that make him better than Parker? I mean using that logic. at worst, Tony could equal Kobe's achievement of not winning a le without Tim and Manu. ...I could not win a championship without Tim Duncan and Manu...I fail to see the great achivement there, so why are Laker fans bringing it up as if it were one?


    Basically all it means is that if Kobe need Tim and Manu to win, and Tony can win with Tim and Manu...Parker's still the better deal...

    A. He's younger.
    B. He's cheaper.
    C. He's less likely to alientate his teamates, demand to be traded, run off his HOF Bigman Partner, or break up his championship core....

    Exactly what can Kobe do that Tony can't?

    Oh that's right...he can jack up more shots.

    Wow.
    Your argument is no good Whott. I could see saying that from a gm and money perspective TP is a more valuable component to a championship contender than Kobe. For about a third of the cash, you'll get decent production. If there's one argument to make, that would be it. Don't try to compare the two in terms of ability though. It's a foolish argument. I mean, it isn't even close.

    Your whole criteria is jacked. Let me ask this- When Steve Kerr was young he cost less than Kobe does now, right? He was less likely to alienate his teamates, right? He has more rings than Kobe, right? Does that mean he was as good or better than him?

    You can't honestly try to compare the basketball ability of TP to Kobe. Kobe's probably better at basketball than anyone else has ever been. Possibly even Jordan. Jordan had some things about him outside of his basketball ability that made him better, but if we're just talking raw athletic b-ball ability you can at least make a solid argument that Kobe is the best ever. If you want to give it to MJ that's cool, but in any case Kobe is at least second. He can score from anywhere, create his own shot from anywhere, he can set up his teamates fom nearly anywhere and he's consistently been on the 1st defensive team throughout his career. Tony Parker is a nice player and a good scorer, but he isn't even close to Kobe Bryant.

    At first I thought this thread was a joke. I still do, but in a very different way.

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    At first I thought.
    *snip*

    First, second, third and fourth mistakes right there.

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    Tony Parker is highly successful because of the team and system he plays on. It is tailor made to suit his strengths and hide his weaknesses. He is not a lock-down defender nor does he have great court vision like CP3/Nash/Williams do. He doesn't have to focus on micromanaging the offense, his primary task is to attack the defense and look to score. You swap TP with CP3/Nash/Williams and those teams all become worse.

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    blah blah blah, blah blah, lame homer media driven subjective spin blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.
    *snip*

    Oh please...continue enlightening us

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    Man Whott....I've been on this forum for 4 years and in all of my years you still come up with weak threads and sad analysis. Your hate for Kobe is too funny...especially when trying to compare TP against KB. You have now taken the cake for the most dense comparison I've seen on this forum, well maybe when Manu vs Kobe was on full steam after a few good games from Manu. Enjoy the first round and hopefully we'll see you in the WCF, but keep the ty threads to a minimum. But then again I'm sure your thread is pure jokes or you sucked on a tailpipe prior to tickling the keyboard.

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