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    Good, Better, Best biba's Avatar
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    Rising Suns???

    Just gonna throw this out there …

    John Hollinger ESPN

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...rprises-080428

    All 83 times that a team has taken a 3-0 lead in an NBA best-of-seven playoff series, it has gone on to win the series.

    But somebody is going to be the first to buck the trend. It happened for the first time in baseball with the Red Sox a few years ago, and inevitably it will happen in basketball, too.

    And when would it happen? Most likely with a team that's basically as good as its opponent. That's a rarity in most of the series that started 3-0 -- but not in the Suns-Spurs series. The two teams finished only a game apart in the regular season, the Suns finished ahead in my power rankings, the scoring margin after four games is only five points, and the series would be even if not for the aforementioned Phoenix blunder at the end of Game 1.

    I don't want to make too much out of this -- even if you presume the teams are dead-even and give the home team a three-point advantage each night, the fact that the Spurs have two home games in the final three and need to prevail only once adds up to a 94 percent chance they'll win the series. Most likely, San Antonio will be in the conference semifinals.

    But this is one of the rare cases in which the team down 3-0 does still have a genuine chance of winning the series.

    And if it happened, that would provide the ultimate surprise of this first round.

    John Hollinger writes for ESPN Insider. To e-mail him, click here.

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    This media love for the Suns never gonna end.

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    Haha what has happened with Hollinger? Last year he loved the Spurs. This year he doesn't. Rooting for the underdog?

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    He's not really saying anything anti-Spurs, just that if it's ever gonna happen, this is as likely an instance as any other.

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    Haha what has happened with Hollinger? Last year he loved the Spurs. This year he doesn't. Rooting for the underdog?
    he actually picked the suns before the series started, he's drinking the phx koolaid, what do they put in that water? they see mirage's of a good team, thats about it, all smoke screens , suns are posers, media darlings, nothing more, they don't respond when it counts.

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    A team will lose a few games in the playoffs. No need to panic. Wish we would have taken care of business in PHX but since we didnt, we need to win Tuesday. Get an early lead and keep it. Play defense and dont let them back in the game. Thats it.

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    come on, aint you guys a little scared?

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    stfu, pencil-pusher.

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    come on, aint you guys a little scared?
    I would give you a serious answer if you didn't have that ridiculous picture.

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    come on, aint you guys a little scared?
    even if we go to a game 7, which will not happen because Spurs will take care of business as usual tomorrow night, even at game 7 i would not be scared. I mean, it's the Suns come on.

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    come on man that pictures funny as .

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    He just doesn't know what to write about this morning.

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    I'm not scared at all. I'm not even worried.

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    He's not really saying anything anti-Spurs, just that if it's ever gonna happen, this is as likely an instance as any other.

    this is more of an article that if it does happen he can say he was the first tojump on that wagon, it's pretty smart for an idiot actually

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    his first error is the the Suns are as good as the Spurs. They're not.

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    I'm scared. Scared that the Suns can win three in a row, push the series to seven and save D'Antoni's job by almost doing the impossible.

    Screw that. If D'Antoni's fired with a Suns loss, then it's a necessary evil.

    There's got to be a reason Carlisle hasn't taken a job yet, right?

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    Until the Spurs win 4 games, it remains possible that the Suns will win 4 games first. At this point, the Suns are in actuality the most likely team in NBA history to come back from down 3-0. All of the past teams in this position have failed and the '08 Nuggets haven't yet won a game in their series to make it slightly more possible that they could rally to win. So, in some sort of absolutist terms, the Suns are, in this moment, the most likely team in NBA history to come back to win after being down 3-0.

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    Until the Spurs win 4 games, it remains possible that the Suns will win 4 games first. At this point, the Suns are in actuality the most likely team in NBA history to come back from down 3-0. All of the past teams in this position have failed and the '08 Nuggets haven't yet won a game in their series to make it slightly more possible that they could rally to win. So, in some sort of absolutist terms, the Suns are, in this moment, the most likely team in NBA history to come back to win after being down 3-0.

    not really, against the defending camps? one of the greatest teams in sports history, and one of the greatest coaches in NBA history? i dont think so. yea its good to be cautious, but lets be realistic. the better team always wins a 7 game series.

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    not really, against the defending camps? one of the greatest teams in sports history, and one of the greatest coaches in NBA history? i dont think so. yea its good to be cautious, but lets be realistic. the better team always wins a 7 game series.
    He's speaking in technicalities, not reality. Since no one else ever has, and since the other 3-0 team hasn't won a game yet, the Suns are currently the stastically most likely.

    The likelihood is very slim, but FWD was merely pointing out that technically, the Suns have the best shot at the moment.

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    not really, against the defending camps? one of the greatest teams in sports history, and one of the greatest coaches in NBA history? i dont think so. yea its good to be cautious, but lets be realistic. the better team always wins a 7 game series.
    I think you missed my point. In all of time, there have been 85 teams that have gone down 3-0 in a playoff series. At this moment, there are only 2 teams that have a chance to come back from down 3-0 and win a series -- the 2008 Suns and the 2008 Nuggets. Of those 2, the most likely to come back and win is the Suns, if only because they've already managed to win one of the games necessary to complete such a comeback. As such, the 2008 Suns are the team most likely, in all of NBA history, to rally from down 0-3 to win a series. That's not saying that they will do it; but for now, they have a better chance than the 83 teams who've already failed and they have a better chance than the Nuggets team that has not yet won a game in its series.

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    I think he has nothing else to write about. Or, he's hoping for another game to be on ESPN/ABC. Who knows what that was all about?

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    It's a remote possibility but the possibility is there nonetheless. I think it's ridiculous that a team down 0-3 could come back.

    What worries me the most is:
    1) The Suns have come back for 0-2 and 1-3 so we know they're resilient
    2) They should have won Game 1 OR
    2a) They should have won Game 2
    4) But instead they discombobulated on themselves when the Spurs applied pressure

    Odds say that the Suns are due to win a game in San Antonio in Game 5. And if they win in San Antonio, does that give them an automatic win in Phoenix in Game 6? They should have the odds to win in Phoenix being the home team and already losing 1 badly there.

    That places Game #7 in the air, Phoenix would no longer have the odds to win in San Antonio.

    So I would say series odds are now in favor of a 7 game series with San Antonio winning in game #7.
    Last edited by Allanon; 04-28-2008 at 02:44 PM.

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    If the Suns played anything that resembled defense, then I'd be worried.

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    If the Suns played anything that resembled defense, then I'd be worried.
    Game 4, 1st Q
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    That resembles defense.

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    Game 4, 1st Q
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    That resembles defense.

    I think the rim was your best defender in that game.

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    If Tony, Tim, and Manu are benched in the 3rd quarter of each game and the Suns have 30 points leads in those games, then the Sons have a very good shot at the series.

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