KG pushed a ref last night.......anyone else see this?

[xtremesteven33]

Spurs lost to the better team in 2001, 2002, and again in 2004. Face it, the 3-peat Lakers were flat out better than the Spurs during that time frame. I liken it to the way the Suns/Spurs rivalry is now (although PHX has never actually won), the Lakers always had the mental edge over the Spurs. 2003 is the only year the Spurs finally got over the hump, and it was because the Lakers lost so many key role players that year. In 2004 they received 4 straight losses in a row.

2001- duncan hurt
2002-Parker rookie, manu rookie and bowen 2nd year
2003- fair game, we beat them
2004- .4 second robbery.....

[FromWayDowntown]

More I think about it, I'm more swayed towards most of your position that he really should be suspended.

I guess the only way I think they can spin it is that KG didn't initiate the contact. Eddie Rush was wrapping his arms around KG first. Not that it's legit, but that's a possibility to explain why they might not suspend him.

I think that's the only rationalization, but I still think it's problematic if that interpretation is applied consistently. When an official grabs a player during a fracas, the player is obliged to respect the official. If the player chooses to re-enter the confrontation and to do so by exerting force on the official, the player has broken the rule -- he's intentionally made contact with the official -- and should be subject to the punishment that the rule imposes.

Frankly, the gang that should be most pissed if KG isn't suspended in this cir stance is Suns Fan. Those guys are going to go f'n nuclear if the black letter of the rule isn't applied in this cir stance.

[FromWayDowntown]

2001- duncan hurt
2002-Parker rookie, manu rookie and bowen 2nd year
2003- fair game, we beat them
2004- .4 second robbery.....

Fail. Fail. Fail.

1. Duncan was completely healthy in 2001 (Duncan was hurt in 2000, when the Spurs lost to the Suns).

2. Parker was a rookie in 2002 and Bowen was in his first year with the Spurs, but Manu was playing in Italy. And what difference does any of that make?

3. You're a jackass if you believe that only 2003 was a fair game. The Lakers whipped the Spurs asses in 2001, beat them soundly in 2002, lost respectably in 2003, and won respectably in 2004.

You can't really be making an argument that the Spurs were better than the Lakers between 2001 and 2004. It's one thing to argue that the Spurs are the dominant team of the post-Jordan era; it's something else entirely to argue that the Spurs were the league's best team between 2000-2004.

[SRJ]

Frankly, the gang that should be most pissed if KG isn't suspended in this cir stance is Suns Fan. Those guys are going to go f'n nuclear if the black letter of the rule isn't applied in this cir stance.

And for once, it won't involve the Spurs.

If it goes down that way, I'll stand arm in arm with Suns fan. I'll even sign one of those online pe ions that always accomplish so much.

[Borosai]

Well, at least it's in the paper. It cannot be ignored now.

[miss paxton]

Since the rule simply refers to intentional physical contact, not who initiated it, it seems like the argument that KG didn't initiate it would be a weak rationalization for the league. I would assume the reason the rule is so strict is that they simply do not want the players purposely touching the officials, ever, for any reason, and particularly not when it looks like there may be an altercation. I can see why this has to be a bright-line rule from the league's perspective, since all the officials really have to prevent fights breaking out is their authority.

[FromWayDowntown]

If it goes down that way, I'll stand arm in arm with Suns fan.

Me too.

[Str8Ballin]

an officials job during an altercation is to get in between the players and restrain them if necessary. Ed Rush was doing his job. KG blatantly shoved him off. I have a feeling he will be suspended.

[timvp]

KG won't get suspended. Duncan got suspended for less but that was the regular season and Duncan doesn't play for Boston.

However, if I'm the Hawks, I'm not protesting too hard. KG is a great player but I'd say he's more prone to a choke job than Allen or Pierce. If it's a close game, the Hawks can handle Garnett more than they can handle Pierce getting continuous isos.

[BiZNicK]

KG should just get suspended for getting punked by Zaza.....

and lmao @ KG trying to act hard after he backs away from Zaza and there are refs holding him back...

[1Parker1]

Ironically, the Celtics biggest strength may also be their biggest weakness; KG. If he can't even keep his cool against the Hawks, what does he think is going to happen in later rounds as the games get tighter?

[DazedAndConfused]

KG is HUGE for BOS's defense. They absolutely need him in there for rebounding and shotblocking. ATL actually has a chance of pulling out Game 5 if KG is not playing.

[FromWayDowntown]

KG won't get suspended. Duncan got suspended for less but that was the regular season and Duncan doesn't play for Boston.

However, if I'm the Hawks, I'm not protesting too hard. KG is a great player but I'd say he's more prone to a choke job than Allen or Pierce. If it's a close game, the Hawks can handle Garnett more than they can handle Pierce getting continuous isos.

I still think KG should be suspended, but I agree with this take.

It's funny to see the hard-line Boston guys come to the realization that has been so apparent about KG for so long. Even Simmons admitted today in his chat that the KG vs. Duncan argument is pretty much a non-starter anymore. As Boston Homer Simmons said, there's virtually no chance that Duncan no-shows in a game like that one that the Celtics played last night. It was hardly suprising to see that from KG. Thus, even if the Celtics win the le and KG is a big part of that, Duncan's place above Garnett in the lore of the NBA is completely secure.

[Pero]

Pachulia retaliated with what appeared to be a head butt.

Man what BS, what head butt? If there'd be a head butt for real no one would be saying "appeared".

[Cry Havoc]

Man what BS, what head butt? If there'd be a head butt for real no one would be saying "appeared".

Maybe he was trying to nuzzle him. They can't be sure.

[Obstructed_View]

I remember when Van Exel was with the Lakers and he accidentally touched a ref and was suspended..

Actually he shoved an official into the scorer's table and was suspended for seven games and fined 25k.


And I remember Malik Rose getting teed up by an official for pushing the guy's hand off him while they were talking. KG didn't get anything for what he did.

[peskypesky]

KG should be suspended one game for pushing the ref and maybe one for throwing that elbow at Pachulia. But the NBA is sucking KG's nuts, so we'll see if anything happens.

[Avitus1]

I'll be shocked if anything happens.