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    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....b507aaf1.html

    Josh Howard hasn't jeopardized his NBA career with one bad playoff series. But considering his questionable behavior, Mavericks officials might be wondering whether Howard is someone they want representing their franchise.

    When asked Wednesday if there was anything he'd like to do over again, Howard said, "Hmmm, some things. But overall, you only live once. You've got to keep your head up and stay positive."


    Howard practically disappeared during the New Orleans series. The 6-5 forward, who averaged 20 points during the regular season, managed just 12.6 against the Hornets and shot a dismal 29.2 percent from the floor.

    After a loss in Game 4 on Sunday, Howard passed out fliers in the locker room inviting teammates to celebrate his 28th birthday at a Dallas nightclub, a source said. The Mavs were down, 3-1, in the best-of-7 series.

    Only a few players attended, the source said. But Avery Johnson confronted the players about the party the next day and canceled practice. The players decided to practice without the coaching staff.

    The birthday party situation came two days after Howard went on a local radio show and discussed his off-season marijuana use. It was the third time in the last year he has talked publicly about using the illegal substance.

    Howard did not address the birthday party with reporters Wednesday. As for the marijuana comments, Howard said, "That's already been put in the past.

    "All I can do is go forward. I'm not a bad person. I admit, I've made a mistake, and I've already apologized about that. That's that."

    Johnson said Howard was "awfully good to me" during his time with the Mavs. But Johnson indicated that he was miffed with Howard's antics.

    "We had some unfortunate situations that happened there at the latter part of the season that I thought was just poor judgment and poor timing and something that I was just totally against," Johnson said Wednesday during an interview with ESPN-FM 103.3.
    And I was bad-mouthing Avery for quiting on the team and canceling practice. My bad Avery. You had every right to do what you did.

    Josh Howard is a disgrace to the NBA.

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    i'm beginning to think that he did more than just marijuana.

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    Howard's not the brightest individual but he's been a high character guy most of his career. One weeks should not change 5 years of good behavior.

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    passing out flyers

    damn. that's pretty pathetic

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    This is planned imo, Josh Howard is doing what Vince Carter did to the Raptors.

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    Howard's not the brightest individual but he's been a high character guy most of his career. One weeks should not change 5 years of good behavior.
    It kind of depends on the week, doesn't it? O.J. Simpson had a pretty busy week a few years back, ask him about it...

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    This is planned imo, Josh Howard is doing what Vince Carter did to the Raptors.

    I agree, to a point. I think Howard may have been undermning Johnson more than trying to leave Dallas. The problem with the Mavericks is really a Cuban problem, IMHO. The players aren't going to support Johnson (or any coach) if they know Cuban is on the outs with him. Cuban is just too involved with day-to-day operations.

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    here's the thing. Howard went behind Avery's back, broke one of his policies. Yet a bunch of them still attended his party, and the rest of the guys did nothing to stop him. Instead of calling him out, they hold a players only practice/meeting?

    also weren't Avery and Howard close? What went wrong?

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    I bet Josh howard gets good weed.

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    And to think the Spurs FO screwed up and passed JH in the draft.

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    This is planned imo, Josh Howard is doing what Vince Carter did to the Raptors.
    Could be. First they trade his best friend Marquis Daniels. Then they trade his other best friend on the team Devin Harris. Problem is, he's not Vince Carter. His off the court things are hurting his trade value because teams will be put off by the marijuana and extracurriculars since he also disappears in big games.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Did you lose a bet Jam?

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    Did you lose a bet Jam?
    I didn't catch that.

    Either he lost a bet or has joined the CoM

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    The timeout

    The Declaration

    The party




    What's next?

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Did you lose a bet Jam?
    Nope. I've never hidden the fact that Manu Ginobili is one of my favorite players in the league. The sig used to be Sheed, but the Pistons been pissing me off, so I just put up Manu instead.

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    "We'll do it this time" Bartleby's Avatar
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    Wow! Nice to see not all the non-Spurs fans are Manu haters.

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    My favorite two players in the league:

    1. Allen Iverson
    2. Manu Ginobili

    Has nothing to do with the teams they play for. I just enjoy watching them play basketball.

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    My favorite two players in the league:

    1. Allen Iverson
    2. Manu Ginobili

    Has nothing to do with the teams they play for. I just enjoy watching them play basketball.
    We do have similar tastes

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    Wow...J-Ho is a real moron.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Nope. I've never hidden the fact that Manu Ginobili is one of my favorite players in the league. The sig used to be Sheed, but the Pistons been pissing me off, so I just put up Manu instead.
    If Rasheed played as hard as Manu does, he'd be in my sig.

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    I agree, to a point. I think Howard may have been undermning Johnson more than trying to leave Dallas. The problem with the Mavericks is really a Cuban problem, IMHO. The players aren't going to support Johnson (or any coach) if they know Cuban is on the outs with him. Cuban is just too involved with day-to-day operations.
    That thought had crossed my mind the other day. Maybe Avery didn't outrightly lose the team as much as they realized he was a lame duck. No sense in busting your ass for someone when you know you're just going to have to reprove yourself to a new coach next year.

    As for Howard, yeah, the guy's an idiot. Even with hindsight being 20/20 I still would like to have seen the Spurs take him. Pop and his staff have kept bigger problem children on the straight and narrow before. Nobody can be responsible for him but him, but I think that better locker room leadership could have kept him in line.

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    I've been defending J-Ho recently but about the party after game 4's loss. GTFO of Dallas.

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    if Rasheed played as hard as Manu he would be the best basketball player in the world! He is by far the most talented player in the NBA, just a little too unmotivated!
    +1

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    Unmotivated to be the best player in the league. Very motivated in being a selfless player and sacrificing individual stats and/or accolades for team success.

    He simply doesn't care about all star appearances, double-doubles, or his legend in the annals of NBA history. He just wants to win and have fun along the way.

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    That thought had crossed my mind the other day. Maybe Avery didn't outrightly lose the team as much as they realized he was a lame duck. No sense in busting your ass for someone when you know you're just going to have to reprove yourself to a new coach next year.

    Thank you. That is what I was trying to say. In particular, what if the lame duck is a grating micromanager?

    When it became a Johnson/Cuban issue, it was pretty easy to predict the outcome. I just don't see Cuban having some great moment of clarity and admitting to his mismanagement, do you? On top of everything else, that's assuming he was the one in the wrong, which I'm not too sure about this time...

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