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    Somebody refresh my memory:

    It's been discussed that the Spurs had their eye on Dequean Cook last year.

    Did we try to trade up for him, or were we just hoping that he would fall to us?

    If trade, were there any rumors as to what was being offered?

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    I think they tried to move up, probably using Scola and/or future picks.

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    Stay away from Joe Ingles.

    He plays for my local team here in Australia, and he will NEVER play NBA. He is drastically overrated here. He has little to no defense against drastically inferior opposition, be it slower, shorter and now even less experienced. I would struggle to find an NBA comparison, because no player with his abilities has ever made the NBA, and I don't mean that in a good way.

    His shot selection is terrible, he's selfish, he is often tagged with "athletic" but this is against NBL opposition, and would be seen as average at best against NCAA compe ion. Unlike most Euro's he can't shoot. Other than an occasional hot streak that generally occurs in junk time against even lower quality opposition.

    Hia development was really damaged by an early coaching change in his career. Mark Price coached him for his first 5 games and would probably have been a great influence on his game, unfortunately Price was sacked and replaced by Shane Heal (A former Spur), but his selfish no defense approach seems to have rubbed off on young Ingles and two seasons of being on a losing team have only made him more appathetic and selfish.

    Stay clear. Don't waste the pick.

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    Stay away from Joe Ingles.

    He plays for my local team here in Australia, and he will NEVER play NBA. He is drastically overrated here. He has little to no defense against drastically inferior opposition, be it slower, shorter and now even less experienced. I would struggle to find an NBA comparison, because no player with his abilities has ever made the NBA, and I don't mean that in a good way.

    His shot selection is terrible, he's selfish, he is often tagged with "athletic" but this is against NBL opposition, and would be seen as average at best against NCAA compe ion. Unlike most Euro's he can't shoot. Other than an occasional hot streak that generally occurs in junk time against even lower quality opposition.

    Hia development was really damaged by an early coaching change in his career. Mark Price coached him for his first 5 games and would probably have been a great influence on his game, unfortunately Price was sacked and replaced by Shane Heal (A former Spur), but his selfish no defense approach seems to have rubbed off on young Ingles and two seasons of being on a losing team have only made him more appathetic and selfish.

    Stay clear. Don't waste the pick.
    Thanks for the info, greatly appreciated. It's been difficult to find information on him, although I had heard similar things about his athleticism and streaky shooting. Teams will get a good look at him in pre-draft camps, as he's been working out in Chicago recently.

    I remember reading that Heal brought him to San Antonio in 2007, so he may have already worked out for the Spurs on the down-low.

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    Hi.

    Victor Claver is in the early entry list. He's a good player now, but I'm sure he will be a GREAT player [second round].
    Casspi fantastic too
    http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...y-Entry-List-/ [International]

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    Claver sounds really promising. Looks like he has the height of a power forward but the skill set of a small forward. Is he fast enough to play SF in the NBA?

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    Watch out for Sean Singletary. His scoring and passing ability is one of the best in the draft.

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    Claver looks great. DX puts him near the lottery in 2009. I'd expect him to pull out if he looks to be a second rounder, but maybe a certain Texas team will give him a promise...

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    Claver sounds really promising. Looks like he has the height of a power forward but the skill set of a small forward. Is he fast enough to play SF in the NBA?
    He's really fast.
    His characteristics are similar to those of Pau Gasol with his age (long arms, very thin). He is a bit smaller and his exterior shot is better. His power of jump is incredible (he won the dunk contest of our league [video below]) and in Valencia they say that he is hard-worker.
    It can be a good chance for Spurs if he appears, since if the year comes he can be Top-20 (only if his season at Spain is good).

    Highlights: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_qjTsiIqAE0 Over Hervelle, in PO
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Olyw_-8Pbdc Dunk contest.

    [Excuse me if there are mistakes, my English is not perfect)
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    Hi.

    Victor Claver is in the early entry list. He's a good player now, but I'm sure he will be a GREAT player [second round].
    Casspi fantastic too
    http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...y-Entry-List-/ [International]
    I would love it if the Spurs drafted Claver as a "down the road" pick. He's got the size and skill to be a good combo forward.

    Having said that, I'm not sure that he keeps his name in the draft if he's not getting a sniff in the first round. Next year's draft looks pretty weak and with a solid year he could cement himself as a first-rounder.

    Still, it's a good thought.

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    Watch out for Sean Singletary. His scoring and passing ability is one of the best in the draft.

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    there's a UVA fan.

    he's also undersized, not a great defender, and shoots a terrible percentage from the floor to get his points.

    he's got grit though.

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    Maybe I've not seen enough of him to say this with full confidence, but drafting Claver in the first and leaving him in the first would be outstanding.

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    Maybe I've not seen enough of him to say this with full confidence, but drafting Claver in the first and leaving him in the first would be outstanding.
    He looks like a good Sanikidze.

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    Found this on spurstalk:

    Buzz

    Theodoros Papaloukas has apparently not yet given up on the possibility of playing in the NBA this summer, and has even hired a new American agent to help him with that cause. He was reportedly extremely close to signing with the Milwaukee Bucks last year, but Mo Williams’ large contract didn’t leave enough money on the table for him to justify the decision. Papaloukas will be looking for a deal in the 3-year, 20 million dollar range this summer. Considering his age, the way he played this weekend and in the season as a whole, that looks like an extremely long shot. A number of teams are hot on the trail of Ramunas Siskauskas reportedly, including the San Antonio Spurs and Houston Rockets. That’s what the word here amongst European basketball insiders is at least.

    On the coaching front, we’re about to see a great deal of musical chairs go on amongst Euroleague coaches. Ettore Messina has signed a two year contract to stay in CSKA Moscow reportedly, preferring the stability of the #1 organization in European basketball than the mess that Barcelona is apparently becoming. Sergio Scariolo is apparently the frontrunner for Barcelona now, but Pini Gershon and Simone Pianigiani are also being mentioned. After blowing a very winnable game in the Euroleague semifinals against CSKA, finishing in fourth place eventually, and also losing the Copa del Rey to Joventut, Neven Spahija will surely be on the outs from Tau Vitoria if he doesn’t win the ACB championship. Rumors all season had Dusko Ivanovic returning to take the job there, but recently it appears that Svetislav Pesic might be the frontrunner. In Maccabi Tel Aviv, Zvika Sherf will be staying another season for sure unless something incredible happens in the Israeli League playoffs. Don’t be surprised to see David Blatt’s name come up in the next few weeks for some of the open NBA head coaching jobs. We heard some rumblings about that here in Madrid, and none of the NBA executives we spoke with sounded shocked to hear that he’s quietly being mentioned as a candidate. It seems like Avery Johnson will be taking his sweet time to decide on his next destination. Don’t expect him to sign on to coach anywhere all that soon. If Omri Casspi decides to stay in the draft, that likely means two things. One, he has found a promise in the first round, and two, that is likely coming from the San Antonio Spurs. They’ve been out to see him in Tel Aviv far more than any other NBA team, and reportedly really like the way he plays. He would stay in Europe for at least a season or two, though.

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    The Spurs stuff...
    A number of teams are hot on the trail of Ramunas Siskauskas reportedly, including the San Antonio Spurs...

    If Omri Casspi decides to stay in the draft, that likely means two things. One, he has found a promise in the first round, and two, that is likely coming from the San Antonio Spurs. They’ve been out to see him in Tel Aviv far more than any other NBA team, and reportedly really like the way he plays. He would stay in Europe for at least a season or two, though.
    I'd approve of both moves.

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    bump

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    I really like the attempts they are making at Casspi and Siskauskas.
    With the current SF rotation being Bowen and Udoka, Siskauskas can play combo guard in case the likely event of Finley and/or Barry retires, and then later on when Bowen is near retirement, we call up Casspi. I'm liking this plan.

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    The Spurs stuff...

    I'd approve of both moves.
    just great, what we dont need next is other scouts looking at what we are looking.

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    I just like bumping this thread.
    I don't want an important thread such as this to get lost under playoff doomsday, smack talk, and celebration threads.

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    Claver looks great. DX puts him near the lottery in 2009. I'd expect him to pull out if he looks to be a second rounder, but maybe a certain Texas team will give him a promise...
    How would you rate Casspi, Claver, and Siskaus...Sikaucus...oh it, that guy.

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    bumpity bump bump

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    An analysis of Euro Early-entrants:
    http://www.europeanprospects.com/198...raft/#more-129

    Giorgi Shermadini's agent is saying that his player has a first round promise.
    Shermadini is a 7'1", 240 lbs center. He is 19 years old (if they haven't cheated on his birth date) and put monster stats in the weak Georgian league this year. He is currently in LA working out for the draft.

    Now the question is : if his agent hasn't lied, what team has made him a first round promise?

    Spurs at 26th? It could make some sense, Spurs like drafting foreigners and they should know him quite well if they have follow Sanikidze this year because both were playing in the same league. However, I don't see at all spurs drafting another bigmen.
    If it's a team with a higher pick than Spurs it could help Spurs to grab the player they like at 26th.
    To me, the most likely team to have a promise is Detroit at 29th.

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    There were some rumors that the Spurs are interested in drafting Omri Casspi. He is a long 3 but at the age of 19 he would be a long shot and would not help next season.

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    There were some rumors that the Spurs are interested in drafting Omri Casspi. He is a long 3 but at the age of 19 he would be a long shot and would not help next season.
    I think they'll take him. Spurs usually take a foreign player at this low draft slot because they can keep him stashed and don't have to pay first round money.

    As far as next season goes, with two new players, Splitter and Ian, having a good shot at making the team, Pop and RC aren't going to draft anyone in the first round who would put three rookies on the team. Not unless a real stud fell that far and who expects that to happen.

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    I think they'll take him. Spurs usually take a foreign player at this low draft slot because they can keep him stashed and don't have to pay first round money.
    usually i agree with this line of thinking, but it just doesnt seem to make sense this offseason. we wont be anywhere near the tax line this offseason (should be like 10 mil below it). and the starting salary for a rookie in our spot is almost exactly 1 mil. its like picking up a player on the minimum. i cant see why the spurs wouldnt pay that much when they are nowhere near the tax line.

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