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  1. #151
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    coach donnie? i don't think i can bring myself to saying that.
    How about "little whistle"?

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    Is there any truth to that article talking about Avery forcing Del out?
    I don't know about necessarily forcing Del out, but I think Avery made the decision that he didn't need a "babysitter" any longer and wanted to assume all of the sideline duties by himself. It's this at ude that pissed off Westphal and Elie - two guys that were brought in to teach certain aspects of the game but never had the chance to do so under Avery. Avery ultimately got what he wanted and look where it got the team.

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    Is there any truth to that article talking about Avery forcing Del out?
    I heard a report that Del said he left because he didn't get along with AJ.

    I hope the Mavs don't entertain the idea of hiring D'Antoni, especially if they aren't going to think about hiring Westphal.

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    I don't know about necessarily forcing Del out, but I think Avery made the decision that he didn't need a "babysitter" any longer and wanted to assume all of the sideline duties by himself. It's this at ude that pissed off Westphal and Elie - two guys that were brought in to teach certain aspects of the game but never had the chance to do so under Avery. Avery ultimately got what he wanted and look where it got the team.
    Donnie said this morning that they have no interest in promoting anybody on the coaching staff, but I'm wondering if Westphal, Prunty, or Elie would be a good fit.

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    I hope the Mavs don't entertain the idea of hiring D'Antoni, especially if they aren't going to think about hiring Westphal.
    I get physically ill every time I hear D'Antoni's name mentioned.

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    Donnie said this morning that they have no interest in promoting anybody on the coaching staff, but I'm wondering if Westphal, Prunty, or Elie would be a good fit.
    I don't think they'd get the head coaching gig, but they'll definitely be used more as assistants than they were in their tenure under Avery. MAVS ASSISTANT JOE PRUNTY will probably follow Avery to wherever he's headed.

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    I get physically ill every time I hear D'Antoni's name mentioned.
    Yeah. I thought the Mavs made strides to improve their defense, and it's slowly eroded away, and any mention of D'Antoni's name would be a white flag.

    I'd love to see Elie as a head coach. There are those of us that (correctly) believe he was the real leader of the '99 championship team. I'm not positive that any situation in Dallas is going to be conducive to success for a coach, particularly a young one. The Mavs sort of need someone that's got some skins.

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    donnie is responsible (in large part) for that bench. why is he allowed to open his mouth?

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    donnie is responsible (in large part) for that bench. why is he allowed to open his mouth?
    The poor acquisitions were 95% Avery, 5% Donnie. Donnie has a FAR better eye for talent than Avery every will. I welcome some of the upcoming moves that Donnie can make now that Avery isn't screaming and demanding to have his way.

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    I do not want them to get rick

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    Anyways, I do like stuff about ESPN Radio. Just not Grandpa Urine. I don't know the cir stances, but it's really a shame Cooperstein isn't on the air more. Is he full-time play by play?
    What happened to that one idiot Jennifer Ingram? She said Houston should lose their franchise because they didn't draft Reggie Bush.

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    Yeah. I thought the Mavs made strides to improve their defense, and it's slowly eroded away, and any mention of D'Antoni's name would be a white flag.

    I'd love to see Elie as a head coach. There are those of us that (correctly) believe he was the real leader of the '99 championship team. I'm not positive that any situation in Dallas is going to be conducive to success for a coach, particularly a young one. The Mavs sort of need someone that's got some skins.
    Don't forget the "Kiss of Death" when he played for the Rockets.

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    What happened to that one idiot Jennifer Ingram? She said Houston should lose their franchise because they didn't draft Reggie Bush.
    She died.

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    Don't forget the "Kiss of Death" when he played for the Rockets.
    I didn't forget it, I just didn't think it was relevant.

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    Really, what happened?

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    Really, what happened?
    Failed robbery.

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    Really, what happened?
    No.

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    I do not want them to get rick
    As in he is a great coach and you fear him or that you think he sucks? I think he would be the best fit for this team.

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    The funniest part about it all is how he's throwing everyone under the bus on ESPN. Especially the part where he tried to downplay how good that 67 win team was in 06. Earth to Avery, that team was very good they had the championship almost in the bag, it was YOUR TY ASS COACHING that ed us over in the end..with a little help from Dwade and his 3 man crew.

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    The funniest part about it all is how he's throwing everyone under the bus on ESPN. Especially the part where he tried to downplay how good that 67 win team was in 06. Earth to Avery, that team was very good they had the championship almost in the bag, it was YOUR TY ASS COACHING that ed us over in the end..with a little help from Dwade and his 3 man crew.
    Yeah, Dirk missing that free throw was completely on AJ and the refs.

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    Yeah, Dirk missing that free throw was completely on AJ and the refs.
    Is that where the series was solely won or lost? That ft would've sent the game into OT, no guarantees that Mavs would've won. That FT cemented one loss, not four. What was more indefensible was the entire team not showing up for G4. Completely turned the series around right there, swung the momentum firmly back to Miami.

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    Yeah, Dirk missing that free throw was completely on AJ and the refs.
    If there's one thing I can't stand, it's smug-asses like you coming in here all high and mighty because of the Mavs debacle and acting like a know it all. Anyone who watched that series, anyone with HALF A BRAIN, knew that something wasn't right with the way games 2, 4, and 5 were officiated. And don't even get me started on Avery Johnson, if you think he wasn't a major factor in our lack of success these last 2 years then GTFO.

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    Is that where the series was solely won or lost? That ft would've sent the game into OT, no guarantees that Mavs would've won. That FT cemented one loss, not four. What was more indefensible was the entire team not showing up for G4. Completely turned the series around right there, swung the momentum firmly back to Miami.
    The point is that you'd rather blame the coach that just got fired for something abstract rather than even accept the fact that the superstar you love choked away a chance to go up 3-0. The entire team didn't show up after Dirk missed that free throw, too, but you choose whatever suits you at the time. This is why I said two years ago that your love affair with him was going to go south. You'll turn on Dirk soon enough.

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    anyone with HALF A BRAIN, knew that something wasn't right with the way games 2, 4, and 5 were officiated.
    I really couldn't have said it any better myself. You guys certainly fit the profile.

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    The point is that you'd rather blame the coach that just got fired for something abstract rather than even accept the fact that the superstar you love choked away a chance to go up 3-0.
    Dirk missed an opportunity for the Mavs to send the game into overtime and play for a 3-0 lead. I don't think we're in disagreement there. If you think the series was won or lost on that FT, then we are. Can you point me to where I blamed Avery for that missed FT? I'm not an all or nothing person like you: I don't think Avery is the source of everything wrong in Mavs land, nor do I think he is entirely blameless for how things have gone. You are the one who would rather absolve Avery of his fair share of blame for the team's current predicament just so can lob potshots at Cuban and Dirk.

    The entire team didn't show up after Dirk missed that free throw, too, but you choose whatever suits you at the time.
    I choose rationality and reason and try to accurately describe what happens. You might try that yourself sometime, instead of letting your better instincts go the way of smug sanctimony.

    This is why I said two years ago that your love affair with him was going to go south.
    I don't believe you ever addressed me about the subject two years ago. Avery got fired for the job that he's done since then.

    You'll turn on Dirk soon enough.
    For what? Not winning a le? In case you haven't noticed, I'm a Dallas Mavericks fan.

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