Is it me or does Paul have a habit of pushing his defender away with his non-dribbling hand when he's driving to the basket?
The Spurs have had absolutely no one outside of Bruce who could guard Stojakovic all season. I knew this was a loss the second I saw the same defensive matchups from game 1.... and what happened to the original le of my thread!?!![]()
Is it me or does Paul have a habit of pushing his defender away with his non-dribbling hand when he's driving to the basket?
No, the Spurs aren't using it as an excuse. Even Duncan denied that he had been sick at all![]()
He also has a habbit of traveling and getting away with it...
Well, them and Horry are a combined 18-60 so far in two games against the Hornets, so no.
Yeah, those guys used to be, but it's clear they aren't shooting worth a flip in this series. We've gotten blown out two straight expecting them to hit said wide open threes, do we have to watch them go 40-130 and make it four straight before it becomes a dumb idea?
Why is it our bench can come out at the start of the fourth, run pick and roll and that nice flex motion with Oberto working the baseline and cut the lead from 17 to 9 with Paul, West, and Peja all in the game, and we can have our most effective other stretch of the game on offense in the third running pick and roll, but we HAVE to go back to this stupid 4down crap that has gotten us rolled two straight?
Let me know when it's okay to complain about us falling right into Byron's trap of being in love with the three ball. Or let me guess, it never will be, we'll get rolled by NO, we'll bounce a couple of old guys and float some stories about them being locker room cancers in the playoffs, and all will be better (as we burn another year of Duncan's prime).
I thought for sure Pop would have Bruce on Peja tonight. I absolutely cannot believe it. I thought he was maybe being CIA or something when he said he doesn't need to change anything after game 1. lol don't change anything Pop = same result - blowout.
As much as you blame Pop
1. Parker doing absolutely nothing
2. Finley can't hit jack
3. Udoka can't hit Jack
4. Ginobili is turnover machine
5. No quick passes
6. Bowen jacking up J's? wtf?
7. Late at roitation on D
8. Can't distrup the passing lanes
9. Zero smart play
10. Rushing + no continuation in the action after they close the door for TP
We have oppurtunieties to shoot, we failed. Good job Scott.
Trap Gino. Good job Scott.
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And running into people and falling down. He's done it to Oberto at least 3 times in this series resulting in cheap fouls and refs are eating it up.
Also, WTF not T'ing up West with the taunt? THe MF'ing refs need to be Johnny on the spot with that sh!t.
The last time the Spurs beat the Hornets Bruce was on Predrag.
Pop, wtf?
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Yea I know.
What I want to know is, where the is the Spurs biggest mismatch, Ginobili?? I know he's injured, but if he's been healthy enough to practice than he should be healthy enough to impact this series. He doesn't look slow or anything when he's played. His rythmn is quite off and he's way too dependent on his 3 point shooting right now. He should be owning these guys. Instead, Peja is outplaying Ginobili by a mile.
One thing I do give props to Pop for; I can now see why he was hesitant in Game 1 and did NOT play Udoka.![]()
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And to continue the discussion about offense, does anyone really think our perimeter players, who are a combined 18-60 from three so far in this series, can somehow reverse that trend enough to shoot us to wins in four of the next five against New Orleans?
Anyone not drinking silver and black koolaid?
Because that's the bed Pop has made for this team at this point.
the second half was just horrible to watch, so frustrating!
Hi Kori,
Any word about Manu's condition too? He's too tentative out there.
And man, what a time for the Spurs to get sick and hobbled.
Yeah, all he did was lock down Bonzi, get Bonzi into foul trouble, and make some hustle plays to get us back to single digits in the second half...
But hey, he missed 3-4 shots tonight, so bench him. If that's the criteria, when do Finley, Bowen, Parker, and Manu take a seat on the pine?
If the shooting dries up, the Spurs will lose. The Spurs can't win playoff series if they can't shoot.
Part of the problem is the Spurs are facing the exact opposite defense than they saw in the first series against the Suns. The Suns weren't leaving the shooters at all. Now the Hornets are leaving the shooters. The problem is that right now the shooters are out of rhythm.
But if you think there's a way to beat the Hornets right now without stretching the court with some threes, you didn't pay attention enough in 2001 or 2004. Post players who have bricking three-point shooters don't win playoff series. Instead of looking for other ways to attack, stare the troubles in the eyes and show them why the Spurs have collected clutch three-point shooters over the years.
I'll bank on the three-point shooters being able to turn it around. They are missing now but all it takes is one big game where the Spurs blow them out from beyond the arc and the Hornets will have to alter their defense. Duncan and Parker can't do anything right now with the lane packed. The Spurs must space it out with threes.
Forcing it into the paint against a stuffed lane is why the Spurs lost in 2001 and 2004. Trust the shooters to do the job that has them on the roster.
The Spurs win and die with shooters since 1999. What type of magical offense do you want to run that can be effective against a packed lane?
CP3 causes the defense to collapse on him when he gets in the paint. That leaves guys like Peja and Mo-Pete wide open regardless of who is assigned to cover them.
The Spurs will recover.
They need to give Tim the ball in his sweet spots so that he can score or find the double when it comes. He's got to also doa better job of reading the double, and not get rattled, which is very uncharacteristic of him.
They also need to find a way to spread the floor when he's got the ball.
And, obviously our 3 point shooters need to hit their shots, in order to keep the defense honest.
We do all of this in the first half relatively well, and that's why we're up at the end of the half.
We need to sustain our defense and keep executing our offense the way we do in the first half.
We come out with lack of focus and intensity on both ends of the floor in third and dig ourselves too big of a hole.
Correct. With Parker on Paul, it'd be even worse. It's a dilemma the Spurs don't have enough talent on the roster to solve. Sorry guys.![]()
Come on LJ, I already covered this. When we got out of 4down tonight in the third and went to the pick and roll in the third, we finally started getting easy buckets in the paint.
We also ran a nice motion set in the fourth that had the Hornets dazed and confused. I never said we need to abandon the three, and you are right that the three point shot is going to help stretch the floor for us, but not if we aren't hitting any of them.
You sound just like Pop. Content to live or die by the three, and guess what - we're going to die by it, with a perfectly good change of pace that has shown already that it can cause problems for New Orleans.
4down is playing right into the teeth of the New Orleans D. When we ran side pick and roll and that motion set tonight, New Orleans didn't know what to do and was giving up a friggin' layup line to us.
We will probably hit enough threes in game 3 to win, but it's fool's gold to think we're going to hit enough to win four of five. If that's your solution, and right now it's clearly Pop's, this team's season is done in the next week.
And it's insanity to keep running the same over and over and over again when it isn't working. Our stubborness on offense is reason 1B behind 1A of Bowen on Paul as to why we've gotten our asses handed to us two straight.
You're a smart guy, I can't believe you're view on our offense is simply 'screw it, we live or die by the three', without even entertaining the idea of doing something different on offense than what New Orleans is begging us to do every play.
That's vintage 2001, 2004. And we're headed for the same result.
Spurs in 6.
They'll figure out by next game.
You clearly aren't even watching the games. Tim's making great passes out of the double team. It's our 30% three point shooting that is doing us in.
You Switched the T and B in your name.............Clever, I like it.
Kori, how many names do you post under?![]()
I can't help but agree w/ you. Say Spurs make all the adjustments people are screaming about. Play zone, Paul burns you with jumpers. Double Paul in the lane, chandler ally oops. Stay home on Chandler, Paul layups. Collapse the lane, open shooter knocks it down.
I don't care what adjustments are made. Spurs are outmatched.
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