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    I love the hatred for the Hornets from you guys. For the past week I have heard the following arguments from you Spurs’ fans about this series.

    1. The regular season didn’t count; the two big wins by the Hornets were a fluke.
    2. The Hornets aren’t ready to beat a championship team in the playoffs.
    3. The Spurs played bad in the first game and they won’t let it happen again.
    4. Hornets’ fans are y and delusional about their team because we have never been to this point. We are getting ahead of ourselves just because we beat you at home in game 1.
    5. Byron Scott is an ok coach who been lucky so far.
    6. The Hornets are a mentally weak team and will implode at the first of adversity.

    Do you see the progression of your ignorance? You folks are reaching for something that is not there. Here are the facts:

    1. The Hornets match up well against the Spurs. We are very similar in our approach to the game. Except we are a better shooting team from the outside this series.
    2. The Hornets have a wealth of playoff experience, it is called Byron Scott. 3 rings as a player, two finals as a coach. Plus CP3 is dynamic, it does not matter that he has not been here before.
    3. The Spurs have been outplayed and out coached up to this point.
    4. Hornets fans believe and we are confident. We are no ier that you guys. It seems like you guys are suffering from being delusional at this point. We believe in this team, we have enough basketball knowledge in our short existence to know we are a good team, with a good chance of beating you guys in this series, even more now that we are up 2-0 with an 18.5 point margin of victory average. Yes 18.5, but you guys know that, you can add and divide like the best of NBA fans.
    5. Bryon Scott is good coach, who knows his place. His staff has done a great job in the first two games.
    6. The Spurs are the ones that have shown the cracks in the mental armor this series. The look on Duncan’s face after he missed both free throws in game 1. The blank stare he had in at the end of game two. The frustration on Bowen’s face. The lack of any emotion from Ms. Parker in the first to games. And did you see your coach’s press conference last night. He seemed to be in disbelief.

    I am curious to see what happens on Thursday in S.A. You guys will need to come to play in game 3. I am not sure if you feel the pressure, but I have a feeling your team and fans are getting a little concerned. I know I would be worried if my team got beat by 19 and 18 points in the first two games of a series. I think the Hornets will be better prepared for the game 3 of this series than they were for game 3 of the Mavs series. They are learning as they go.

    We have held court convincingly, now it is your turn to do the same. Otherwise this series is over and you guys know that since you are so experienced at this playoff thing…

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    I love the hatred for the Hornets from you guys. For the past week I have heard the following arguments from you Spurs’ fans about this series.

    1. The regular season didn’t count; the two big wins by the Hornets were a fluke.
    2. The Hornets aren’t ready to beat a championship team in the playoffs.
    3. The Spurs played bad in the first game and they won’t let it happen again.
    4. Hornets’ fans are y and delusional about their team because we have never been to this point. We are getting ahead of ourselves just because we beat you at home in game 1.
    5. Byron Scott is an ok coach who been lucky so far.
    6. The Hornets are a mentally weak team and will implode at the first of adversity.

    Do you see the progression of your ignorance? You folks are reaching for something that is not there. Here are the facts:

    1. The Hornets match up well against the Spurs. We are very similar in our approach to the game. Except we are a better shooting team from the outside this series.
    2. The Hornets have a wealth of playoff experience, it is called Byron Scott. 3 rings as a player, two finals as a coach. Plus CP3 is dynamic, it does not matter that he has not been here before.
    3. The Spurs have been outplayed and out coached up to this point.
    4. Hornets fans believe and we are confident. We are no ier that you guys. It seems like you guys are suffering from being delusional at this point. We believe in this team, we have enough basketball knowledge in our short existence to know we are a good team, with a good chance of beating you guys in this series, even more now that we are up 2-0 with an 18.5 point margin of victory average. Yes 18.5, but you guys know that, you can add and divide like the best of NBA fans.
    5. Bryon Scott is good coach, who knows his place. His staff has done a great job in the first two games.
    6. The Spurs are the ones that have shown the cracks in the mental armor this series. The look on Duncan’s face after he missed both free throws in game 1. The blank stare he had in at the end of game two. The frustration on Bowen’s face. The lack of any emotion from Ms. Parker in the first to games. And did you see your coach’s press conference last night. He seemed to be in disbelief.

    I am curious to see what happens on Thursday in S.A. You guys will need to come to play in game 3. I am not sure if you feel the pressure, but I have a feeling your team and fans are getting a little concerned. I know I would be worried if my team got beat by 19 and 18 points in the first two games of a series. I think the Hornets will be better prepared for the game 3 of this series than they were for game 3 of the Mavs series. They are learning as they go.

    We have held court convincingly, now it is your turn to do the same. Otherwise this series is over and you guys know that since you are so experienced at this playoff thing…
    Can't argue with anything you have said!

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    Im guessing you are looking for some recognition?

    In that case...

    here is your gold star


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    I believe you have way too much time on your hands.

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    The regular season didn't count.

    The last two games did, however.

    But we ARE playing some horrible ball right now. I think we're on a big letdown emotionally from the Suns series.

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    Im guessing you are looking for some recognition?

    In that case...

    here is your gold star

    Just looking for a good discussion...isn't that what we are here for?

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    Props to you and your organization. Hopefully the Spurs can work their asses off and tie this series.

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    The regular season didn't count.

    The last two games did, however.

    But we ARE playing some horrible ball right now. I think we're on a big letdown emotionally from the Suns series.
    The regualr season did count for us. We needed it for our confidence.

    And I am suprised by the poor shooting from the outside by the Spurs this series. I thouhg Ginobilli was your Peja. He seems to be driving the ball more that shooting from the outside.

    Being able to shoot from the outside would help free the lane. What players can Pop put in to get you guys a spark from the outside?

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    Just looking for a good discussion...isn't that what we are here for?
    No you're not, you are here to troll and most of your initial post proves it.

    If you were truly here for "good discussion" you would not have stereotyped the entire Spurs fanbase as having "hatred" Quite a few fans on this site have been respectful, complementary and good hosts. A point that you chose to ignore.

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    Just looking for a good discussion...isn't that what we are here for?
    Well, probably not a whole lot more to be said. This series has been cussed and discussed to death. Nothing to do now but wait for game 3 and see if the Spurs are going to make a series out of this thing.

    BTW, I pretty much agree with most of what you posted.

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    No you're not, you are here to troll and most of your initial post proves it.

    If you were truly here for "good discussion" you would not have stereotyped the entire Spurs fanbase as having "hatred" Quite a few fans on this site have been respectful, complementary and good hosts. A point that you chose to ignore.
    I really don't know what the term troll means...

    Do I talk ? yes

    Can i have a civil discussion? yes

    Have I seen the post that say F the Hornets and CP3 is a punk? yes

    Not trying to genralize, just taking an opinion out of what I see.

    Besides I am bored as at work right now...

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    No surprises here. Hornets are just beating a team they're supposed to beat.

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    I really don't know what the term troll means...

    Do I talk ? yes

    Can i have a civil discussion? yes

    Have I seen the post that say F the Hornets and CP3 is a punk? yes

    Not trying to genralize, just taking an opinion out of what I see.

    Besides I am bored as at work right now...
    For someone who is not trying to generalize, you are doing a of a job.
    I don't deny that some Spurs fans have done exactly what you have described and those fans deserve any they get, what you purposely chose to ignore is that the majority of the fans here have been pretty cool about the Hornets and most of their fans who post here.

    You say you can have a civil, basketball discussion? I'm all for that, so let's see it.

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    Can u send me a hornets jersey?

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    Hatred? You don't earn our hatred until we've played you at least two or three times in the playoffs.

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    The Spurs are a fluke team with fluke championships. They only won those les because all their shots went in.

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    The Spurs are a fluke team with fluke championships. They only won those les because all their shots went in.

    That's some weak-ass trollage, dude. You need to step up your game.

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    That's some weak-ass trollage, dude. You need to step up your game.
    That is as good as his game gets.

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    That's some weak-ass trollage, dude. You need to step up your game.
    Maybe your team should step theirs up.

    Hornets > Spurs.

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    For someone who is not trying to generalize, you are doing a of a job.
    I don't deny that some Spurs fans have done exactly what you have described and those fans deserve any they get, what you purposely chose to ignore is that the majority of the fans here have been pretty cool about the Hornets and most of their fans who post here.

    You say you can have a civil, basketball discussion? I'm all for that, so let's see it.
    Ok, you obviously feel I have ignored the majority of the opinions on this website and just picked out the ones I can use in my argument. I can admit, I am a little biased when it comes to choosing my points and the posts that support them.

    So, let’s look at the first half on the second game, which has been the closest of any half thus far. The reporters made a point to say the Spurs got everything they needed to improve on from the first game.

    1. Slow D-West
    2. Hustle more
    3. Get offensive rebounds
    4. Get more points in the paint, particularly Duncan.

    Yes, you did not shoot very well at all, but the Hornets defense had something to do with that. We did not shoot well either. But you were only up by 1.

    What needs to change in game 3? The Spurs are good half court team, that can is effective in transition. This is evident by the Suns series. What has prevented them from pushing the ball up the court in this series?

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    The Hornets haven't faced any adversity yet so the jury is still out on that one. The Spurs haven't played Spurs basketball to this point in the series.

    Unfortunately I don't think the Hornet reach the Finals, even if they manage to get by the Spurs......which is too bad because I hate the idea of Boston or LA winning the championship. LA wins the matchup battle with NO, and so does Boston or Detroit.

    So, I guess I'll just keep on cheering for the Spurs...it's not over until the phat lady sings after all.

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    Ok, you obviously feel I have ignored the majority of the opinions on this website and just picked out the ones I can use in my argument. I can admit, I am a little biased when it comes to choosing my points and the posts that support them.

    So, let’s look at the first half on the second game, which has been the closest of any half thus far. The reporters made a point to say the Spurs got everything they needed to improve on from the first game.

    1. Slow D-West
    2. Hustle more
    3. Get offensive rebounds
    4. Get more points in the paint, particularly Duncan.

    Yes, you did not shoot very well at all, but the Hornets defense had something to do with that. We did not shoot well either. But you were only up by 1.

    What needs to change in game 3? The Spurs are good half court team, that can is effective in transition. This is evident by the Suns series. What has prevented them from pushing the ball up the court in this series?
    All valid points, although the "we" and "you" thing is a little bush league IMO but that is a personal pet peeve.

    Scott and the Hornets have done everything possible to get SA out of their game. Someone mentioned it in a previous thread that it looks a lot like what the Lakers did in 04. The Spurs have become tentative and unsure of themselves and it almost looks like they were just happy to get past Phoenix. What they have to do in the next game is first off, don't think of it as "We're down 0-2, we need to get all these games" get Game 3 first. They have to be aggressive in going to the basket. I'm not saying pass up every open jumper but you cannot rely on those alone. Take open jumpers but you also have to penetrate. They did a better job of establishing Duncan and that needs to continue. The Spurs are down and not out. To say that NO cannot close this out would be foolish, to say the Spurs have absolutely no shot to still take the series is equally foolish.

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    2. The Hornets have a wealth of playoff experience, it is called Byron Scott. 3 rings as a player, two finals as a coach. Plus CP3 is dynamic, it does not matter that he has not been here before.
    I think you are GREATLY under-rating the value of post season experience. Yes it's great that the coach is a 'been there, done that' guy with a stack of rings. But at the end of the day, when your backs are against the wall, that's not going to do the players a heck of a lot to get the team over the hump.

    The fact is that you haven't yet had to face adversity. The Mavs weren't a very good team. They never presented you with a problem you needed to overcome.

    Matchups are in your favor this series. The Spurs may not be able to keep up. And to be honest, I haven't yet seen the Spurs play to the level that I'm used to seeing them play. The Hornets, naturally have a lot to do with that, but I still believe we'll see the Spurs wake up from this fog they're currently in.

    But what happens if the Spurs win the next 2? Does the momentum shift to their side? Is that little tilt enough for them to win Game 5 on the road? That's when playoff experience or lack thereof will start to show.

    You may get through the Spurs again without having to face that adversity, but what happens when you come against the Lakers? You won't have all the favorable matchups like you currently do. You'll be facing a team that's able to run better with you, that has better outside shooting, and never lacks a scoring threat. I easily see the Lakers beating the Hornets. And playoff experience will rear it's ugly head, and beat you.

    And who knows you might make it all the way. If so, kudos to you all. But I'd love to see my Pistons (hoping, not assuming, that they make it) face the Hornets in the Finals, as I see them as the easiest opponent.

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    One thing's for certain. After the Spurs hold serve in SA most of these zero content trolls will disappear.

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    All valid points, although the "we" and "you" thing is a little bush league IMO but that is a personal pet peeve.

    Scott and the Hornets have done everything possible to get SA out of their game. Someone mentioned it in a previous thread that it looks a lot like what the Lakers did in 04. The Spurs have become tentative and unsure of themselves and it almost looks like they were just happy to get past Phoenix. What they have to do in the next game is first off, don't think of it as "We're down 0-2, we need to get all these games" get Game 3 first. They have to be aggressive in going to the basket. I'm not saying pass up every open jumper but you cannot rely on those alone. Take open jumpers but you also have to penetrate. They did a better job of establishing Duncan and that needs to continue. The Spurs are down and not out. To say that NO cannot close this out would be foolish, to say the Spurs have absolutely no shot to still take the series is equally foolish.

    I agree with the Spurs not being very aggressive in getting to the lane. I would have figured they would be attacking, just like the Mavs did in the first few games of thier series with the Hornets. The ability to get to the line and possibly get the Chandler in foul trouble would be an effective strategy. The Jazz did that against us and it worked.

    But I also see the Hornets doing a good job of switching and collapsing the lane and forcing the Spurs to shoot jumpers.

    Didn't mean to offend you with the you and us terminolgy. It is just the way I speak. I am refer to the Hornets as we, because by habit, so I refer to every other team in the first person as well.
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