So back to the trade deadline. We went back and forth about whether or not we should trade Devin. We knew he was a good point guard, with the potential to be amazing.
What we didn't know was how long that would take. On one hand, we didn't have enough confidence in him to let him call his own plays, but on the other, he is a one man fast break, his shooting was improving by the minute, he is a good defender and his potential was undeniable. In Jason Kidd, we felt we would get a player that would make ti easier for Dirk, Josh, Jet to get open shots. That Avery would no longer have to scream to push the ball, that JK was the best in the business at pushing the ball in the open court. Plus, our rebounding had suffered this year vs last, JKidd is a great rebounder and the presses that had caused us problems, would no longer be a problem.
None of the other guys in the initial versions of trade were playing much at the time, other than Stack.
It wasn't an easy call. Between AJ, Donnie and I, we would change our minds by the minute. I don't think there is any doubt that the pressure and closeness of the Western Conference race had something to do with our decision making process. In my mind, this season was becoming analogous to the most agonizing season I had been through, the 04-05 season. We were having the same home vs road record delta, multiple players asking to be traded and even more internal tension about our lack of consistent performance than we had in 04-05.
But the current year wasn't really my personal deciding factor. Looking at our future cap structure was. In doing a deal for JKidd, we created a situation where Devin, Mo Ager, Hass and what we would have paid Ghana would no longer be on our cap. Which put us in a position for the future that I looked at as follows:
2008-9 We have a full training camp with a very motivated JKidd, the rest of our starters back, an improving Nasty Bassty (had to get that in there, plus anyone we can add. We all thought (and still do), we would have a very strong nucleus to build around. We would also have a 1st round pick.
2009-10 Depending on how the previous season went, we would have several last year contracts available, the option of potentially having some cap room, and other options to improve the team. With the much lower potential salaries, not only could we use cap room if we went that direction to enable roster flexibility, we could also buy a pick. (there are almost always teams willing to sell a pick in the 20s for 3mm dollars)
2010-11 In this year we only have 2 fully guaranteed contracts and in 2011-12 We dint have any fully guaranteed contracts. So the options are endless in both years. Plus , its in one of these years that the new CBA comes up. With so little committed, depending on how hard a line the owners take, things could get very, very inter sting. Having so little contractually committed could be a great place to be when other teams look to dump salaries to avoid the risks of a lockout.
So with the changes, while we lost a great player in Devin, we felt like we were picking up someone who could spark the team and add energy on the court. At best, we re energized, at worst, it doesn't help, but we have improved the roster flexibility for the future and improved our opportunity to re invent ourselves, just as we had after the 04 05 season. And as far as the draft picks, there is no question there is risk there, but in the NBA, there is always the option to buy low first round draft picks, so we weren't as concerned there.
So from my my viewpoint, we accelerated salaries, which wasn't cheap, and in exchange, got a player that our basketball people thought could energize and help us.
http://www.blogmaverick.com/2008/05/02/talking-mavs/
We know Mark, you had no say on the trade... its all your 'basketball people' fault...
This is why Dallas FAILS... Cubes never owns up to his mistakes.
Plus does this mean he's not going to retool the roster around Dirk and Kidd?
If he is, then he'll be taking on more salary, which contradicts all the bull he just wrote there.
Cuban made the same dumb mistake with Nash...he will meddle his way into ZERO championships.
DD
Yeah, letting Nash walk was terrible. The Mavs got better and Phoenix didn't win any 'chips, nor did they leave any les on the floor by letting him walk. Finley, Nash, Dirk and the Mormon were not a le team.
Seriously.. It's not like Nash was the superstar with us as he is today with the Suns, but it really didn't matter because chances are that we were gonna keep losing with or without him, especially with Nellies style of play.
Why?
It takes a while for teams to come together and build that chemistry and experience to win a championship.
With Nash, I think Dallas would have won at least one...if not two.
Cuban screwed it up...as he has...AGAIN !
DD
gettin rid of nash would be like getting rid of t-mac. would it matter?
I love Nash, but he's been so overrated. If he couldn't win a le in Phoenix in that system, he certainly wasn't going to do it in Dallas, where his talents weren't maximized.
this all started when motta left.
Phoenix made the same mistake with Joe Johnson. Imagine if the Suns had kept that 04-05 team together plus beef up thier bench. Sarver was the worst thing to happen to Phoenix.
Cuban is an asshole, I saw the 06 finals and anyone who isn't a mavs hater or blind homer can see that the refs changed the way they called the games to favor the Heat after game 2. And I blame it on Cuban, he talked to refs for years and he thinks they will give him a fair shake? And then the moron decided to trade Devin Harris for kidd, most people probably wouldn't even do that trade straight up but cuban even added way more to the Nets side.
Dirk should demand a trade, he should go to cleveland where he and Lebron can tear up. Mavs fans will probably diss me for this post but you guys have to be realistic, Cuban has done alot of ed up in Dallas and he may end up being the reason Dirk doesn't get a ring.
Wade might have gotten his calls but is not like the Mavs were being blown out. Game 4 aside the Mavs were in Games 3,5 and 6. They just could not make plays at the end of the games to win. Chris Webber said something on TNT to the effect that players around the NBA view Dallas as soft.
Sounds like something Bill Simmons wrote...
First off Dwyane Wade shot 97 freethrows in 6 games which is highly unfair, there were TONS of phantom calls and even unbiased sources like espn.com and 82games.com said alot of the calls in that series for the Heat were questionable. Here is an example of one of the BS calls I was talking about - http://youtube.com/watch?v=fydhtOSlfW0 , There is an article on 82games.com about this series - http://www.82games.com/gamerefs.htm , and also just look at the foul that gave Dwyane wade the gamewinning freethrows of that series http://youtube.com/watch?v=5y8nI1PPYOk . And those were only a few of the horrible BS calls Miami got.
Please tell me how that series was not rigged, if you saw that series and you are a realistic fan you know that Dallas got screwed. This has nothing to do with being soft, Dallas was robbed. And remember I'm not a Mavs fan and I don't hate the Heat. I'm an unbiased person against both sides but That series was rigged and its Cuban's fault for talking .
players around the nba view chris webber as a bad player
But at least he was better than Jason Kidd.
DD
Letting go of Harris was at least as bad as letting Beno Udrih go. Except worse because Harris was a regular rotation player.
I guess it takes one to know one, because Chris is as soft as Charmin' himself.
Webber is a pansy. Least authoritative opinion on the subject.
Dallas Mav's where 67 wins happens. C'ya been nice while it lasted.
How was letting Nash go a mistake? Mavericks made finals without him and Picked up Stackhouse, Terry and Devon Harris to replace Nash.
This Kidd trade, the present, today, yesterday, 3 months ago, I don't get. No matter how Cuban wants to spin it. They should have just gotten rid of Avery at end of season.
Mavericks would have made a playoff push without Kidd trade. I think they were in 2nd at the time.
Why diss? You said the only thing that ever needs to be said. . .
And for the Suns fan who said this
Wade might have gotten his calls but is not like the Mavs were being blown out. Game 4 aside the Mavs were in Games 3,5 and 6. They just could not make plays at the end of the games to win. Chris Webber said something on TNT to the effect that players around the NBA view Dallas as soft.
Games 1 & 2 weren't even close. . that's when Stern realized he had to step in b/c the Heat wouldn't get it done on their own.
They were the 6th seed and in the middle of a massive tailspin. Granted, the Kidd trade didn't take them out of that tailspin this season, but there's a lot of ridiculous revisionist history being spun about how Dallas was some unstoppable machine before the Kidd trade and then suddenly everything went to after the trade.
He wasn't going to win in Dallas with a mentally weak who chokes annually in the playoffs in Dirk.
Cuban is a ty owner.
How the does Dirk choke?Yeah he missed the freethrow in game 3 but even if he did make it,it would've been OVERTIME which means the game still could've been lost.The MAVS choked,not Dirk himself you dumbass.
And anyone with a half a brain knew how to shut down Dirk the way GS did.
Put an athletic defender on him and bring the double from the blindside.His passing skills aren't great so shut Dirk down,the mavs go down.
Nash is probably one of the worst defensive PG's in the league and when your in the west with young,quick pointguards like Parker and CP3,you need speed and defense(something nash doesnt have).
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