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But will they vote for him in November. Again, who cares who voted
for who in the primaries. Just so long as that they keep fighting each
other until convention time......like the energizer rabbit, just keep
going...going...going.....
Limbaugh 'pic above' ditto-heads can't even vote for the right Demo
Looks like Republicans and independents are following Limpballs advice and voting in the Democratic primary in record numbers....trouble is they are voting for the lead candidate, Barack Obama, to put him over the top.....meanwhile, the Clinton camp is left with another 'if only'
From today’s New York Daily News:
"Obama owes his first-place standing to the millions of independents and Republicans who voted for him in states that allowed them to participate in the Democratic nominating contest, the News found.
Clinton would top Obama by more than 360,000 votes if only Democrats were counted, and the delegate race - which Obama leads by 135 - would likely be tighter."
Harold Ickes, a devoted Clinton Kool-Aid drinker, put it this way;
"For those superdelegates who are increasingly questioning pulling power in a general election, I think what this will do is reinforce the argument that she has a stronger base among broad Democratic cons uencies that we need absolutely to win."
The article also mentions that "if only" Michigan and Florida were counted, Hillary’s lead would be more than 900,000.
Two weeks ago Hillary’s reasoning was that "if only" Democratic primaries were held under Republican winner-take-all rules, she would be the leader by virtue of her victories in the big states and Obama’s wins in smaller states.
Speaking of that, Mrs. Clinton has made a point that she wins the states that Democrats need in the fall, while Obama carries states that are going to vote Republican no matter what. In light of that argument it seems strange that she is fighting so hard for, and putting so much emphasis on, North Carolina and Indiana. A Democrat has not carried North Carolina in a presidential election since Carter in ‘76. Indiana has not gone into the Democratic column since Johnson in ‘64.
But I digress, back to the original premise of the argument that she has stronger support among Democrats. Doesn’t that make Obama’s point that he would be stronger in the general election because of his crossover appeal to Independents and Republicans? I think it would be a good idea for the Clinton campaign to drop this latest "if only" before the Obama people turn it around and use it as a weapon against Hillary.
Based on Sen. Clinton’s logic, I think Mitt Romney has an argument to the Republican Party. "If only" crossover Democrats and Independents had not been allowed to vote in Republican primaries, he would be the nominee instead of John McCain. Ah, the land of "if only", what a wonderful place.
But will they vote for him in November. Again, who cares who voted
for who in the primaries. Just so long as that they keep fighting each
other until convention time......like the energizer rabbit, just keep
going...going...going.....
Just keep it going
at Operation Chaos
Among Republican voters in Indiana:
52% Clinton
46% Obama
at Republicans admitting they have a weak candidate they picked from a flock of weak candidates.
Yep. Just a figment.
Just pretend we're not out there.
McCain does need all the help he can get.
I actually wish it were true and demonstrable, it would help Obama.
Desperate Barack Obama begs Democrats: Help me finish Hillary
Calm down, people.
Obamaniacs, don't worry. Your Anointed will likely survive the primary and be the nominee. The math is (slightly) in his favor, and the "super-delegates" don't want to tork off the youth, or blacks, or make it look like Hillary stole it.
That said ...The link ... http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/...exits_demo.phpThe percentage of Clinton voters who say they'd choose McCain over Obama in a general election is approaching 40% in Indiana. Put it another way: in North Carolina, less than HALF of folks who voted today for Hillary Clinton are ready to say today that they'd definitely vote for Obama in a general election.
The numbers appear believable. Whoever the winner is may have a hard time getting the loser's supporters to come around in time for the general.
This Operation Chaos may indeed have won IN for Clinton. This is going to be very very very close.
rush limpballs doesn't have as much pull as he and yoni and xray believe he does.
Well the Obama folks think he does.
Obama team talking points memo on Tuesday election. A Limbaugh scheme?
INDIANAPOLIS, IND.---Here's the official Obama team spin on what is shaping up as a likely Indiana loss: "There really has never been any question that Senator Clinton would win Indiana," said a Obama talking points memo out Tuesday. Team Obama also blames Rush Limbaugh for urging Republicans to infiltrate the primary and vote for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
full memo, click below...
Talking points on Limbaugh Crossovers
Limbaugh has been urging right-wingers to vote against Obama
* There really has never been any question that Senator Clinton would win Indiana, where she has the support of Senator Evan Bayh’s political operation and the demographics heavily favor her. But we saw today that perhaps her strongest asset was that Republicans believe she’ll be an easier opponent to beat in November.
* Right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to cross over and vote in the Democratic primary in Indiana to help Clinton’s chances at becoming the nominee.
* Reports from Indiana polling places confirmed that record numbers of Republicans were taking Democratic ballots to vote against Obama. And Limbaugh himself bragged about the success of his effort on his radio show today.
Republicans are desperate to face Clinton, because they know Obama will be harder to beat
* Let’s be very clear: the Republicans want to face Senator Clinton in November, because they know that Senator Obama will be a stronger nominee for the Democrats, and will help Democratic candidates down the ballot. Republicans are so scared of Obama that they’re actually skipping their own primary to vote against him.
* That’s a stunning testament to the threat that Obama will pose to Republicans come fall.
* If I were the Clinton campaign, I don’t think I’d be celebrating too hard tonight. Winning a state on the strength of voters who want to see you defeated isn’t exactly the kind of win you want—or the message you want to send to superdelegates.
Ickes Comments
Comments are beyond the pale—and a distortion
* This afternoon, top Clinton advisor Harolk Ickes said that if Barack Obama were the nominee, there might be a so-called “October surprise” that would hand the election the Republicans. Using this kind of fear tactic is simply beyond the pale—and a total distortion.
* Time after time, we’ve seen that the Republicans are desperate to face Clinton in the fall because they know that Obama would be a stronger candidate. That’s what brought Limbaugh listeners out in droves today to vote for Clinton.
* To suggest that Clinton would somehow offer less risk of an October surprise—at the same time as Republicans are actively working to see her nominated—is certainly curious.
Not the tactics Democrats want to see
* But leaving that aside, this simply isn’t the kind of tactic that Democratic voters and superdelegates want to say. As President Clinton himself said a couple of years ago, “if one candidate's appealing to your fears and the other one's appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope.”
Link:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008...ints_memo.html
I for one, am glad it will all be over in November, no matter WHO wins.
The Endless Campaign is wearing me the f*** out.
Don't forget the "Hillary in 2012" campaign will be kicking off in January '09.
Precisely. Democrats don't like devouring each other so much as they like trashing Republicans.
I am hearing, though, that of the 10-12% of Republicans who voted in IN's D-primary, they only went 53-47 for Hillary. So, it appears that, at least in IN, that OC didn't have much effect.
Obama won NC decisively. So, I'd say it was a good night for Obama.
Limbaugh is certainly enjoying the free press he is getting for his show by pimping this OC.
Ray did you vote for Hillary as Rush asked you to do here in the Texas primary?
Rush Limbaugh is a special kind of bag.
Operation Chaos is a complete and total success. even the liberals in this thread are being drawn into the chaos.
Congratulations, my fellow foot soldiers. Victory is not far off.
- Mars
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