Europe Media Spurs and Ramūnas Šiškauskas

[Brutalis]

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Why would he come to america from a pro league, to play in the worst minor basketball league in the world?

I'm just saying, if his stock collapsed. What if he was half the player Oberto is once playing here?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The guy is pretty good actually. He won the Euro-league with PAO last year...I watched him few times - HE IS LISTED AS NUMBER 1 in the Draft of foreign players scouted this year...The problem is he is 29 years OLD...However, he is better than ALL of other guys we have from the 3-pt line!!!! YEA, MUCH, MUCH BETTER!!! He is even better than Barry in the 3-pt release (Barry is OLD NOW) - watch him!!! HOWEVER, Finley, Bruce and Barry are approaching the retirement - if Barry gets another serious injury to keep him out for a long time, he will retire for sure...

Ramunas - he is called 'RAMU' or 'Siska' is MUCH better sized than Manu and Udoka - he could easily guard someone like Peja WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM??? Very high % from the FT line, Unbelievable from 3s, he can steal and pass the ball, he CAN EVEN BLOCK - put this guy right next to Manu in the rotation, he will be a KILLER - HE WAS THE APRIL 2008 EURO-PLAYER OF THE MONTH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyx6u...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXBh_7iHa_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-mKg...eature=related

Siskauskas' buzzer beater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1gkG...eature=related

I HOPE WE GET THIS GUY, THEN WE CAN RELEASE THE OLD DONKEY FINLEY AND BRENT BARRY...

IF POP GETS THIS GUY, IMAGINE HIM WORKING WITH CHIP JUST FOR FEW MONTHS TO PRACTICE Tony Parker's quick short jumpers from the lane, the Spurs WILL BE UNBEATABLE TEAM, having this guy from outside shooting 3s plus Manu, and then having him in a COMBO with Tony Parker coming off the pick and nailing down short jumpers - the guy is shooting 62% from the field shooting 2s - quick jumpers - this is JUST UNBELIEVABLE...

GO SPURS!!! GO MANU!!!

He is great shooter and very clever player but I think for NBA he need to be SF not SG because he will be not quick enough to guard SG in NBA.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Does anyone know if Dimitris Diamantidis or V-Span could be effective back up point guards in the NBA. The verdict on V-Span seems to be no!, but I wonder if maybe he's better than he showed in Houston.

Diamantidis if gets him he is for Spurs Bowen replacement. He is not really point guard he is just call this by fans of Europe. If you not notice yet in Europe fans consider any player which bring ball up floor point guard. Diamantidis is point forward not point guard.

He would be very good player for Spurs to replace Bowen. He is not as good man defender as Bowen but he is best team defender on perimeter of any player in world and yes this is level of how he play team defense of wing players. He is good 3 point shooter better than Bowen because he can make from all spot of court. He is more athletic than Bowen. His best ability for defense is guard other SG or SF of team which one is best scoring player like Bowen do. And he can run offense and handle ball as point forward if this need be also thing can help Parker and Manu if play with them.

He is not answer for Spurs backup PG he is not fast enough to guard point guard in NBA not close to even fast enough for such thing. Compare Siska and Diamantidis talent and ability to Spanoulis - Spanouli is much better than them. He just need proper chance to show what he is capable of. Siska would be like Barry of Spurs, Diamantidis would be like Bowen of Spurs, Spanoulis he would be like Parker with good jump shot and 3 point shot and better court vision, passing and play making ability. This is how could give a compare to Spurs players this should help understand level of ability of these players. Spanoulis is potential be all star even at NBA level.

[Pero]

Siskauskas > V-Spam :P

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Siskauskas > V-Spam :P

No he is not. This is two players play for Panathinaikos just like Diamantidis. Spanoulis one day will get credit he deserve. He is player take over games all by self with crowd with intanigle with defense with passes with scoring and intense play. He can take over game at World Championship against US European championship against Spain. He can take over game in Greek championship or Greek Cup championship against Olympiacos or Aris. He can take over game against good Euroleague teams as he do before. Even against CSKA he is best player of court as rookie.

Say Siska better than Spanoulis like say Barry better than Parker. If PAO can gets rid of Saras all fan would see what Spanoulis can do and these stupid opinion like Sisksa > Spanoulis all go away very fast.

[MONTENEGRINO]

I'm huge Euroleague fan.
1. Diamantidis - can play in NBA. Not on high level as in Europe, but 9th-10th player in team. Question about him is - Is he what Spurs need? I'd say NO.
2. Šiškauskas - NO! Soft, slow, old for NBA. Believe. Smart, but after all he's not good enough. Question about him is - What aspect of the game he can improove in Spurs. MAYBE only outside shoot.

[MONTENEGRINO]

What Spurs need from Europe is NIKOLA PEKOVIC, young and very quick and strong center, also with very good mid range touch. He can be one who will help control inside, a big help for Tim Duncan who doesn't get any younger.
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[mystargtr34]

^ I think he was joking

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I'm huge Euroleague fan.
1. Diamantidis - can play in NBA. Not on high level as in Europe, but 9th-10th player in team. Question about him is - Is he what Spurs need? I'd say NO.
2. Šiškauskas - NO! Soft, slow, old for NBA. Believe. Smart, but after all he's not good enough. Question about him is - What aspect of the game he can improove in Spurs. MAYBE only outside shoot.

This is probable good post of truth but I thinks Diamantidis can be 8 player in rotation. If he plays Spurs he can fit Bowen type role. Siska like say he is someway like Barry so similar place of role.

Spanoulis - this is player can be 6 man or starter either one of Spurs need immediate. Fans say he not as good as these others is crazy if ask me.

[MONTENEGRINO]

Spanoulis is quite different story... He could help ALOT.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

What Spurs need from Europe is NIKOLA PEKOVIC, young and very quick and strong center, also with very good mid range touch. He can be one who will help control inside, a big help for Tim Duncan who doesn't get any younger.
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He is great young player he can be better player than Splitter. He can play PF or C for Spurs. But Partizan owner admit he is be sign with Panathinaikos soon. He will have maybe 3 or 4 years contract with PAO so it not need thing for NBA team drafts him now. He maybe come later like Navarro and Scola do.

[mystargtr34]

What Spurs need from Europe is NIKOLA PEKOVIC, young and very quick and strong center, also with very good mid range touch. He can be one who will help control inside, a big help for Tim Duncan who doesn't get any younger.
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I would never have guessed .

Seriously though do you think Pekovic can make the transition into the league? He seems to be a bit small (in terms of length and reach) and not very quick to me?

Very skilled and hugely talented though.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I think about this. Siska is like old Brent Barry not young one maybe he is also close to Jon Barry player. He maybe is like Jon Barry but with more jump ability and more dribble ability. So he can be replace player for Barry maybe.

I think Diamantidis like the Adrian Griffin but better defense even with Griffin be strong defender. Diamantidis like Griffin but more defense and more athletic ability maybe. Ability brings ball up court.

So Siska like combine old version of Brent Barry and Jon Barry. Diamantidis like super version of Adrian Griffin. Like say, I not understand why so many fan of Europe not understand Spanouli is much superior to these players. He is able to help Parker and Manu very much.

[Pero]

No he is not. This is two players play for Panathinaikos just like Diamantidis. Spanoulis one day will get credit he deserve. He is player take over games all by self with crowd with intanigle with defense with passes with scoring and intense play. He can take over game at World Championship against US European championship against Spain. He can take over game in Greek championship or Greek Cup championship against Olympiacos or Aris. He can take over game against good Euroleague teams as he do before. Even against CSKA he is best player of court as rookie.

Say Siska better than Spanoulis like say Barry better than Parker. If PAO can gets rid of Saras all fan would see what Spanoulis can do and these stupid opinion like Sisksa > Spanoulis all go away very fast.

I was joking.
But really, Siskauskas 2 euroaleage les and an MVP. V-Spam hasn't done yet. Could be that you're right and it's because of Saras, but could also be he's mentally screwed after his Houston stint. You say he can take over game, so why doesn't he? Saras doesn't let him or what?

[Pero]

Like say, I not understand why so many fan of Europe not understand Spanouli is much superior to these players.

Like I said, because he hasn't done much in Euroleague yet.

[MONTENEGRINO]

Nikola Pekovic shouldn't jump to NBA this summer. He should play in Europe for 2-3 years, to develop. He is just 20 years old. If he develop all of his potential, he can become an All-star. Belive it or not... But he must go to NBA until he's 24. Then he probably will be strong and skilled, but yet young enough to adjust NBA style of play.

[mystargtr34]

This is probable good post of truth but I thinks Diamantidis can be 8 player in rotation. If he plays Spurs he can fit Bowen type role. Siska like say he is someway like Barry so similar place of role.

Spanoulis - this is player can be 6 man or starter either one of Spurs need immediate. Fans say he not as good as these others is crazy if ask me.

I dont think anyone here really doubts Spanoulis' talent or whether he could play in this league... its other factors that are the main contributors to ppl slaggin him off.

Ive always been for the idea to bring him in and use him as a combo guard for this team, i definately feel he can play in this league.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I would never have guessed .

Seriously though do you think Pekovic can make the transition into the league? He seems to be a bit small (in terms of length and reach) and not very quick to me?

Very skilled and hugely talented though.

Pekovic can be similar maybe as Rasho but NOT soft. Strong Rasho instead of soft Rasho maybe. Maybe MONTENEGRINO helps me give scouts report of him. Must understand PAO owners is do everything to sign him. They do not act such way for just any player.

They are interest mainly in Koufos and Pekovic of all big men they believe they are able possible get. So as see he is player that is capable.

[MONTENEGRINO]

[QUOTE=mystargtr34;2473168]I dont think anyone here really doubts Spanoulis' talent or whether he could play in this league... its other factors that are the main contributors to ppl slaggin him off.

Ive always been for the idea to bring him in and use him as a combo guard for this team, i definately feel he can play in this league.[/QUOTE]
You're right.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I was joking.
But really, Siskauskas 2 euroaleage les and an MVP. V-Spam hasn't done yet. Could be that you're right and it's because of Saras, but could also be he's mentally screwed after his Houston stint. You say he can take over game, so why doesn't he? Saras doesn't let him or what?

Saras experiment did not work. It cause chemistry issue. I try explain more but is hard because I not sure how word this thing. But fans understand such problems yes?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Nikola Pekovic shouldn't jump to NBA this summer. He should play in Europe for 2-3 years, to develop. He is just 20 years old. If he develop all of his potential, he can become an All-star. Belive it or not... But he must go to NBA until he's 24. Then he probably will be strong and skilled, but yet young enough to adjust NBA style of play.

Yes I think if he go to PAO which it seem all realizes this happen now he will be by end of contract player NBA team will want. He have very good team for young players with Partizan and if now go with PAO he will be maybe win couple championships in coming years of contract. He play game right way for big man. Not soft but strong.

[jag]

Spanoulis is quite different story... He could help ALOT.

Why won't VS get his straight and come to the NBA then??

Did JVG really hurt his feelings that bad?

[Pero]

Saras experiment did not work. It cause chemistry issue. I try explain more but is hard because I not sure how word this thing. But fans understand such problems yes?

I understand, but it just seems weird to me. He won 2 championships before and there wasn't any problems, why are there problems now?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I understand, but it just seems weird to me. He won 2 championships before and there wasn't any problems, why are there problems now?

For Euroleague PAO starting C and PF were both injure. Team was play such lineup

PG Saras 6-4
SG Spanoulis 6-4
SF Winston 6-7
PF Diamantidis 6-5
C Batiste 6-8

Team play two point guards two small forwards and undersize power forward in key times of Euruoleague because of injury to Tomasevic and Tsartsaris. Also have 3 play makers of court at same time with Diamantidis, Saras, Spanoulis was cause many problem. Who is handle ball and run pick and roll of each time and such.

Olympiacos is top 8 team this year in Euroleague and Aris is top 16 team this year in Euroleague. During Euroleague eliminations time is when C and PF are injure for PAO. Just as example when Tsartsaris come back he is make starting C and Batiste move to start at PF (Tomasevic is now just small bench player because of injury and age).

When this happen first game Tsartsaris is back PAO beat Olympiacos in Greek Cup championship. So PAO was hurt by injury. Also Partizan is very strong young team. Try play against player like Pekovic with such small team is not possible to win on road in key game.

[Pero]

Ok I get that. I thought you meant chemistry issues in the sense that players didn't get along in general or something like that.