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Gonna be interesting to see what Scott throws at them in game four. Spurs can't afford to lose it, so Pop may have to make due on the fly.
I hope Pop can out coach Scott in this series.
I was very happy with Pop's Game 3 adjustments. I don't think any further adjustments are needed. Pop's main focus has to be to keep confident three-point shooters on the court. If anyone starts hesitating, sit 'em. This series has to be won with the help of three-point shooting.
need...YET.
Gonna be interesting to see what Scott throws at them in game four. Spurs can't afford to lose it, so Pop may have to make due on the fly.
I hope Pop can out coach Scott in this series.
I disagree. I don't think the Spurs found some secret weakness tonight at all. The answer was within themselves the entire time. Play hard, hustle for rebounds, stay focused and sharp for 48 minutes and you give yourself a great chance to win.
Scott won't do much. His gameplan is solid. Offensively his team is getting pretty much whatever shot they want and defensively he is limiting the Spurs to taking jumpshots (outside of the 4th). His team lacked execution and focus in the 4th quarter and that is why they lost.
Yep, nobody has any tricks left IMO. The Hornets are up 2-1 in this series because they've played really well for three games and the Spurs haven't.
Thanks for the insight.
LakerFan, you should be coaching an NBA team instead of posting 3,000 times in a Spurs message board.
What you described is Spurs basketball. Keep it close for three quarters and grind it out in the fourth.
I still wouldn't mind at least slowing down Paul at least on some occasions. This guy is 6ft nothing. He is driving on us like its nothing. I was shocked when they were actually up in the 3rd. While I would not change a thing defensively, I would maybe try to call out those screens earlier or something. There has to be something to slow that fool down without altering our defensive gameplan.
I agree. By the time he gets past that p/r he has a full head of steam driving to the rim. He either makes it,or draws the foul everytime.
A lot of times Paul is getting the benefit of a moving screen by Chandler or West. There's not a good way to defend that.
And ugh, give it up DAF86. Every time the Spurs switched on the pick and roll Paul threw it over the top of Parker on the big man for a dunk.
Read what I posted on the other thread, I just want the Spurs to keep Paul out of the paint.
Read what I posted on the other thread
I have no problem if he drops 60 a game and we still win the series. Lord knows we will have that same problem if/when we play Kobe. It's just frustrating everytime down he seems to score. But I guess if they are giving them those moving screens there isn't much you can do.
Well actually they made a lot of adjustmetns for this game like startting manu, and changing the D adjments. Big changes. I don't think Scott has any tricks left in his bag and franly I don't think he needs to change anything. His team is playing well enough to win.
It was good to see for the first time what happens when you enter the 4th quarter close not blown out. I predicted the spurs will capitalize on that.
RELENTLESS!
We never caved when they were ahead and finally, under our constant pressure, NO caved in the 4th.
You can say it was our experience vs. their inexperience, or fatigue, or home court crowd or whatever. But this is the way we will have to play to beat this young, talented and athletic team.
RELENTLESS! GO SPURS GO!
...and don't give Predrag good looks.
Next.
So what you are saying is the Bowen to Peja move (which also took Parker off Mo Pete) wasn't a difference maker, but the Hornets losing their focus in the 4th was? With all due respect, your analysis stinks.
The fact that the game was close had nothing to do with the adjustment, and everything to do with Chris Paul putting that team on his back and going superstar...the numbers don't lie...8 for Peja and 3 for Mo Pete speak for themselves. The adjustment was a homerun. No one is going to stop Chris Paul, and to a lesser extent David West, but the same can be said of Duncan, Parker and Manu. They all played well and the Spurs won- don't try and sell us the only one who can beat the Hornets is themselves. Coming from a Laker fan, we will take it under advisement.
I think the adjustments made by shifting the matchups for Game 3 was key. Of Peja's 8, 3 came from free throws on a couple of questionable foul calls. More importantly, the adjustments limited the team involvement of the Hornets in Game 3. In Game 1, the Hornets got assists on 23 of their 43 field goals (almost 55%); in Game 2, that number was even higher, with assists on 22 of their 36 field goals (more than 61%). In Game 3, with the Spurs' defense focused on taking away the ancillary scorers, the Hornets got 15 assists on 41 field goals (about 37%). Normally, you might attribute that to reduced FG percentages or things like that, but the Hornets again shot almost 50% from the floor (they were at 50% in Game 1 and near it in Game 2). I think the reduction in assists as a percentage of their field goals is a direct proof that the Spurs defensive strategy -- limit the other guys and don't let them get going -- worked.
The shooting percentage is still too high -- if it takes Paul shooting 60% from the field to keep the Hornets in the game, I'll take my chances on the unlikelihood that he can repeat that performance several more times in this series. Challenging Paul to be a scorer and limiting his opportunities to create for his teammates is crucial. The Spurs did it last night, the Hornets went away from sharing the ball as much (or as well) as they had in Games 1 and 2, and the Spurs were able to make the run they needed to get away and win. And do it on a night when Paul and West combined to shoot almost 60% from the floor. Again, I think it's reasonable to wonder about how repeatable that performance is.
As for additional adjustments, I think the Spurs do have to find a way to get Tim Duncan involved offensively. It's more than just points that will show that has happened. Tim is shooting under 40% for this series and the Spurs' offense is struggling because of it. Somehow, even in putting up 110 and shooting almost 50% in Game 3, it seemed like the Spurs were having to work exceptionally hard to get scores at times. Things become so much easier for everyone else if Tim can be efficient on the offensive end. Whether it's because he's been sick or because the Hornets have been able to render him ineffective with their gameplans, I think one thing the Spurs HAVE to figure out is how to get Tim involved as an efficient offensive player.
They seemed to get a glimmer of a solution in the 4th last night by moving Tim a lot more; there was one play in particular in which Fab caught the ball in the mid-post and Tim dove to the rim for a signature Oberto bounce pass and an easy score. Tim also seemed to wake up a bit when he caught the ball moving instead of posting up and waiting for the double or working too hard to get space in a post-up situation against Chandler. I don't pretend to know the ultimate solution to the problem, but more motion (at least at times) might be a useful starting point.
I definitely agree with you FWD. I loved the adjustments made by Pop. And I think it's highly unprobable that West and CP3 can shoot 60% from the field. But I also doubt how often Ginobili and Parker can both combine to score 60+ points. That's why it's essential to get Duncan going on offense. When the Spurs were finally able to separate themselves from the Hornets in the 4th, it was all because Duncan was getting involved and making quick moves to the basket.
I think another subtle strategy that Pop used was trying to get Tyson Chandler in foul trouble early on. If the Spurs can continue to do that, they'd be in better shape as the Hornets have a thin front line.
The Hack a Tyson and Zone defense strategy Pop used in the first half, almost cost the Spurs the game however. I hope we never see either of those again.
I still see this series as the Spurs as the team forced to constantly adjust to the Hornets, and not the other way around. Typically the team that is doing that ends up losing the series (i.e. PHX going to Diaw in the post).
The Hornets gameplan is simple and consistent for the most part. Throw hard doubles at Duncan, pack in the paint to stop TP's drives, and force the Spurs to hit jumpshots. It has worked twice and they were able to stand up to the Spurs best punch in Game 3 and still have a chance to win the game in the 4th. The Spurs staved off probable elimination with a desperation win (nobody has come back down 0-3), nothing more and nothing less than what PHX did in Game 4 of the 1st round.
If the Spurs win Game 4 then all this talk is definitely warranted.
Two things:
1. Your post is clearly biased. You always like to post about things the Spurs are doing wrong or what can go wrong and disguise it with several layers of "political correctness-apparently well-rounded knowledge of basketball".
2. Based on what you said above, it's clear you haven't watched very many Spurs playoff series in the past several years. When the Spurs make the necessary adjustments, they usually win. Pop is great at that as he always put his players in a winning position and then it's up to them to get to work.
Good adjustments by Pop, exactly the ones he needed to make. And I'm not sure if this is right, but wasn't he sending a help defender to clog the pick and roll later in the game? That seemed to disrupt the Hornets pick and roll (that's what it looked like Pop was doing, to me, but I'm not sure if that was what he was doing)
I could see Pop in game 4 randomly pulling Duncan out of the low block and posting him more at the top of the key to break the log jam at the basket. Chandler will have to honor Duncan's jumper, opening up the paint more for Tony and Manu. Pop has used this before against defensive minded center/shot blockers. Also if they want to throw a double/triple on Duncan out there it opens up a super highway to the basket. Make them adjust to us...Duncan on Chandler one on one = early foul trouble for Chandler.
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