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Then don't.
A non-issue for you.
It is never in our interest for the President of the United States to commit to unconditional meetings with our enemies. It's as stupid as smoking.
Then don't.
You think presidents are contractually obligated to do everything they say they during a campaign?
You're an idiot.
No, but I do think when they say stupid , they should be called on it.
You don't think he needs to explain what he meant by his statement? Fine. Again, I'm trusting the majority of voters really care about what he means by this.
Yoni, Can you imagine Pres. Golden Child in heavy negotiations with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Ahmed-booby-jab, and, just when things get tense, he says,
"I gotta go outside for a second." And he pulls out some Hack! cigarettes.
Or, can you imagine him in the Oval Office after Iran has launched a strike on Israel. And, while contemplating whether or not to nuke Iran, he discovers that he's out of cigarettes?
It would take a BIG man not to push that red button right then and there.
You still support the Bush administration after its negotiating with North Korea and paying off Sunni insurgents.
Yeah, St. Barack has shown a tendency to monkey around with words since he's been campaigning. Like I said before, he's a full-fledged postmodern -- words may not necessary mean what they mean, but more how YOU feel they should mean. Hence the word-parsing over the NAFTA matter and Canada, his non-apology over Wright, etc.
I suspect that, to most Americans, words mean what they mean. And when the Golden Child says he's going to meet with Hugo, I take that to mean, "He's going to meet with Hugo."
Maybe they smoke too. They could share a hookah and pray to Mecca during the breaks.
The tobacco lobby will make sure that never happens.Or, can you imagine him in the Oval Office after Iran has launched a strike on Israel. And, while contemplating whether or not to nuke Iran, he discovers that he's out of cigarettes?
Then again, could we imagine a plausible scenario that would have the Messiah actually in control of nuclear weapons? If he's elected, he's more likely to disarm them and give the plutonium to North Korea than to actually use them on the enemy.
Sure I support this administration, are you an idiot? Where have you been?
I have a problem with the Korean policy and I don't understand everything we've done in Iraq but, again, I'm not privvy to all the information available to the administration and, at the moment, North Korea seems to have halted their nuclear program and we're achieving great gains in Iraq.
It was a statement, not a question. You are an idiot.
You don't understand what is being done in Iraq, but that lack of knowledge has led you to conclude that great gains are being achieved there.I have a problem with the Korean policy and I don't understand everything we've done in Iraq but, again, I'm not privvy to all the information available to the administration and, at the moment, North Korea seems to have halted their nuclear program and we're achieving great gains in Iraq.
So, where is al Qaeda or the insurgents holding ground?It was a statement, not a question. You are an idiot.
You don't understand what is being done in Iraq, but that lack of knowledge has led you to conclude that great gains are being achieved there.
What does Al Qaeda's ground have to do with anything?
Well, we paid Sunni insurgents to fight them instead of us...and, it's worked. Money well spent I'd say.
Negotiations with enemies well made. We'll see how long it lasts.
"with no pre-conditions?"
more swift-boat slime.
Obama and Old McFlopPanderKeating want exactly the same pre-conditions, as they agreed to same bill in Congreas, and as Obama articulated recently.
Obama has no pre-conditions? link?
no, its just right-wing lying.
Yoni declares all these men idiots.
"Yoni, Can you imagine Pres. Golden Child in heavy negotiations with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Ahmed-booby-jab,"
Yoni, Can you imagine dubya, even with a teleprompter or radio receiver under his coat, in heavy negotiations with Hamas, Hezbollah, and hmed-booby-jab,
un ing imaginable.
dubya's too ing stupid, ignorant, illiterate, unpolitical, inarticulate, all wonderful talents that HUSSEIN! doesn't have.
dubya's diplomatic skills? An intuitive genius able to "look into (Putin's) eyes"
DEWD! HE GOT A PICTURE OF RUSH SMOKING! OMGGGGG!!!11!!1!
Yoni declares all these men idiots.
RUNN!!!
- Mars
Yes, and Yonivore thinks he is an idiot because of it, along with all the others.
Funny how you consider Rush the most noteworthy. Typical.
Obstruction of justice:
Bad when liberals like Clinton do it.
Good when conservatives like Oliver North does it.
When conservatives do it, they are rewarded with seats in the Senate, and asked for their autograph.
Because giving money to people fighting communism always works in our interest:
By "work in our interest" I mean "turns people off to our cause". Just look at who the Nicaraguans ended up electing when they finally had some honest elections. The same communists that the contras killed so many people for.During the 1980s, the Anti-Communist Contra guerrillas in Nicaragua were described as death squads.[32][33][34] The Contras were considered terrorists by the Marxist Sandinista regime, which alleged that their attacks targeted civilians. The Contras, who received money, training, and arms from the Argentine junta and then the American CIA, mounted raids which targeted northern Nicaragua, destroying military bases, bridges, schools, Clinics and airstrips. They also attempted to weaken and disrupt the enemy regime by frequently kidnapping and assassinating Sandinista officials. A CIA training manual instructed the Contras, under the heading "Selective Use of Violence", to "neutralise carefully selected and planned targets such as court judges, police or state security officials, etc."[35]
Watever it takes to fight communism is GREAT. If a few nuns get in the way, that's fine, right?
Last edited by RandomGuy; 05-12-2008 at 11:32 AM. Reason: removed a bit of rancor. it still makes me mad tho'
(shrugs)
I have long argued for sensible, moral foreign policy.
The fact that what the Contras and their cohorts in El Salvador did, actually ended up HELPING the regimes they sought to bring down is seemingly lost in the shuffle.
Terrorism ultimately turns people against it because of the hypocrisy and violence. Eventually even the most sympathetic man on the street realizes that the violent evil s that kill with such abaondon care less about the cause they say they promote than about murdering people.
It happened in Northern Ireland, it happened in Spain, it happened in South America, and it happened in Iraq.
This is why we should think long and hard when we support such groups. It has ALWAYS turned around and bit us in the ass.
If the will of the people, as represented by congress and their silly laws gets in the way, it is simply the right thing to do for conservative administrations to just simply ignore the laws and do what they want anyways. Iran Contra for the Reagan administration, and the Bush administration sidestepping of wiretapping courts support the assertion that conservative administrations don't feel bound by the cons ution, and that should scare the bejeepers out of anyone.
Conservatives look the other way when it is something they agree with, and this streak of the "end justifying the means" that runs through conservatism is part of what turns me off about the whole thing.
Liberals have their own streak of this at times, but I have yet to see liberals jump up and vote for convicted felons.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 05-12-2008 at 11:33 AM. Reason: making things betterer
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