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    I expect the Spurs to be up at half time, not by much, just like in game 1 & 2. The difference will be in how we handle the third.

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    barkley said west should hard foul oberto early in game and tell him to go to

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    Agreed. And I think the biggest odds right now are on West punching Oberto. He was close tonight...
    no kidding. every time the camera caught west's face it looked like he was about to boil over...

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    It's going to come down to Byron adjusting his offense.

    If he stays stuck on Paul creating all the opportunities for his teammates, they are done.

    If he comes up with some set plays for Peja to spring him from his Bowenjacket and get West the ball on the move, it will get more interesting.

    As long as Pop continues to give them a heavy dose of the pick and roll and our flex O and doesn't go back to his four down security blanket, I don't see NO slowing down our offense.

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    Ginobili won that game 4 single handidly practically.

    Game 5 was a slap of monumental purportions.

    If game 5 against New Orleans goes like I think it will, game 6 will be QUITE similar.
    We've got such clutch players.

    Look at our team:

    Tim Duncan (what he's done in the Finals - game 7 of 2005)

    Ginobili (same)

    Tony - entire finals last year

    Bruce and his defense!

    Horry!

    Barry!

    And Oberto is such a smart, crafty player!


    Our Spurs team is tough to beat in a 7 game series.

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    The Spurs are making the extra passes out of the double team, and getting wide-open, almost uncontested looks any time they want them. And when they knock down the jumpers, it forces the defense to contest, and the paint opens up again. As long as the Spurs have some perimeter support, nobody is going to beat them in a 7-game series.

    The problem is, we aren't in a 7-game series now. I think the key in Game 5 will be playing smart for the first 6 minutes of the game. If either team gets one of their starters into early foul trouble, it will probably decide the outcome of the game.

    The Hornets are going to be pressing, after getting shown up 2 games in a row. And they are going to be trying to take it right at the Spurs in the middle. It's going to be tempting to try and set up for charges and get those early fouls on Chandler and/or West. But if a couple of those calls go the wrong way, we would be the ones against the wall.

    I think that as long as the Spurs starters have enough free fouls during the middle and later stages of the game, so that they don't have to play cautiously on defense, the Hornets will be looking at an elimination game when they come back to San Antonio.

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    barkley said west should hard foul oberto early in game and tell him to go to
    Because we all know how successful Chuck has been in the Playoffs...

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    why did pop go to heavy 4-down in game one when duncan had a fever?

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    why did pop go to heavy 4-down in game one when duncan had a fever?
    I couldn't say.


    Anyone else want to take a stab at this one?

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    West is getting a Technical and his game will suck in the second half, decent in the first.
    Chandler will be another tumble weed taking up space.
    Peja will have an average game.
    Wright will play more mins.
    Paul will be Paul.

    Spurs will take it with clutch shots from bowen and ginobli. Duncan controling the game like he has been, without the ball.

    Parker will have an Mvp game.

    We will finally see some emotion from Byron Scott.

    Pop will yell at someone.

    Refs will call the fouls that should have been called tonight. Hornets got away with a lot tonight.

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    Probobly hoping he would shake it off.

    Its in the past, no reason to worry about it now.

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    no kidding. every time the camera caught west's face it looked like he was about to boil over...
    What I find funny is that he played macho with Dirk right away in the last round, but he knows he can't pull that with us

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    What I find funny is that he played macho with Dirk right away in the last round, but he knows he can't pull that with us

    this isn't a soft team.

    that's the difference.

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    West is getting a Technical and his game will suck in the second half, decent in the first.
    Chandler will be another tumble weed taking up space.
    Peja will have an average game.
    Wright will play more mins.
    Paul will be Paul.

    Spurs will take it with clutch shots from bowen and ginobli. Duncan controling the game like he has been, without the ball.

    Parker will have an Mvp game.

    We will finally see some emotion from Byron Scott.

    Pop will yell at someone.

    Refs will call the fouls that should have been called tonight. Hornets got away with a lot tonight.

    Steve Javie, where are you?

    Please tell me that he is the ref for game 5 in New Orleans!

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    barkley said west should hard foul oberto early in game and tell him to go to
    i know i'd take advice from a guy who never got a ring.

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    I think that's why we didn't shoot very well in game 1.

    Tim was so sick that he couldn't create space for our shooters the way that he normally does.

    Now that Tim is healthy again, we can get good open looks for our shooters!

    That's always been how we win.

    That's why we are such a great 3 point shooting team: It's Tim Duncan!
    When will people get it through their head? The difference in our offense was that in games 1-2 we were stuck on four down. Byron was bringing the hard double on Tim and daring our shooters to beat New Orleans. I'm not sure what it was in game 1, but in game 2 we scored a whopping 4 points out of the four down set when Duncan was doubled (21 possessions) in the second half. Four points.

    Since then we basically ditched four down for the pick and roll.

    In game 3, we ran 4down about 20% of the game, the rest of the time were either pick and roll, flex motion, or iso sets.

    Tonight, you got four down on 8 possessions; 55 possessions of pick and roll, flex, iso, and inbound sets (87%).

    New Orleans has done a generally poor job of guarding the pick and roll. They don't hedge well, and Paul and Chandler are basically a poor man's Nash and Shaq when it comes to defending the pick and roll. Chandler has gotten into foul trouble trying to stay with Parker on the switch, and Parker has made jumper after jumper if Paul goes under the screen.

    We've also gotten more layups and short shots out of this offensive philosophy change, which has increased the confidence of all the shooters and basically made New Orleans into a scrambling, stumbling squad defensively.

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    i know i'd take advice from a guy who never got a ring.
    Barkeley's been taking a lot of stupid pills lately.

    He used to know basketball.

    Now, he doesn't.

    Kenny is better than Chuck now.

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    I think Joey Crawford is gonna be the ref for game 5, and that could be a good thing for the Spurs. If the Hornets get smacked around and start getting chippy again like they were in that third quarter (I'm looking at you David West) then Joey is gonna lay the law down and smack em with some technicals.

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    we should never go to 4 down all the time when our shooters are shooting ok for the night

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    Barkeley's been taking a lot of stupid pills lately.

    He used to know basketball.

    Now, he doesn't.

    Kenny is better than Chuck now.
    I think tnt wants one guy to pick on team and the other guy to pick the other team
    kenny and charles flipped the coin and charles lost

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    why did pop go to heavy 4-down in game one when duncan had a fever?
    Why did he waste Bowen on Paul when Bowen has been lockdown on Peja?

    Pop got sucked in by what Scott was doing out on the court, and never adjusted.

    I think you could guess that he figured Duncan wasn't going to carry the load offensively but he could set up his teammates for open looks with the type of D New Orleans was playing.

    The problem was that you're asking the role players to win a game in a hostile environment like that with what is a low percentage shot. And it backfired.

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    When will people get it through their head? The difference in our offense was that in games 1-2 we were stuck on four down. Byron was bringing the hard double on Tim and daring our shooters to beat New Orleans. I'm not sure what it was in game 1, but in game 2 we scored a whopping 4 points out of the four down set when Duncan was doubled (21 possessions) in the second half. Four points.

    Since then we basically ditched four down for the pick and roll.

    In game 3, we ran 4down about 20% of the game, the rest of the time were either pick and roll, flex motion, or iso sets.

    Tonight, you got four down on 8 possessions; 55 possessions of pick and roll, flex, iso, and inbound sets (87%).

    New Orleans has done a generally poor job of guarding the pick and roll. They don't hedge well, and Paul and Chandler are basically a poor man's Nash and Shaq when it comes to defending the pick and roll. Chandler has gotten into foul trouble trying to stay with Parker on the switch, and Parker has made jumper after jumper if Paul goes under the screen.

    We've also gotten more layups and short shots out of this offensive philosophy change, which has increased the confidence of all the shooters and basically made New Orleans into a scrambling, stumbling squad defensively.
    Pop also talked about pushing the ball so that we could get easier looks.

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    Why did he waste Bowen on Paul when Bowen has been lockdown on Peja?

    Pop got sucked in by what Scott was doing out on the court, and never adjusted.

    I think you could guess that he figured Duncan wasn't going to carry the load offensively but he could set up his teammates for open looks with the type of D New Orleans was playing.

    The problem was that you're asking the role players to win a game in a hostile environment like that with what is a low percentage shot. And it backfired.
    maybe he thought bowen would slow and frustrate paul
    that backfired

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    if it's still a ballgame entering the 4th quarter, gotta like the Spurs' chances. Better depth + better experience + the ability to get stops on a consistent basis.

    new orleans really needs to beat the spurs in the first 3 quarters if they are going to do it.

    now, taking this into account with tonight's beatdown, it may take the hornets a half to regain their footing (if they ever are able to make adjustments to counter the Spurs' adjustments - certainly that is in doubt at this point).

    we can also add in that this is probably the first time that this Hornets team will ever feel playoff pressure. if they don't win game 5, they likely will have played their last home game until the fall. the Spurs can actually lose this game and still have the advantage in game 6 at home and game 7 with their experience (not that any of them would want to put that to the test in the least).

    NOH have one veteran who has played in pressure playoff games in Peja...and he hasn't exactly responded well to that pressure. Everybody remembers him jacking up airballs on wide open shots during Game 7.

    All of this bodes very well for the next game.

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    Pop also talked about pushing the ball so that we could get easier looks.
    That's some coachspeak. We only had six true transition opportunities tonight.

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