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Manu can't win it by himself. But the way NO is playing, we still need Manu to be Ditka-thread Manu.
Where is the Manu that wouldn't let the Spurs lose game 7 against Detroit?
Where's the Manu that beats the Mavs without Tim and Tony?
Where's the Manu that owns Phoenix?
Where's the Manu that makes every play down the stretch?
Where's the Manu that pick-pockets Richard Jefferson to spur a big run?
We need Super Manu or I'm afraid we will not pull this one out.
Manu can't win it by himself. But the way NO is playing, we still need Manu to be Ditka-thread Manu.
I've been wondering that too. He hasn't played with the same poise and intelligence on a consistent basis. Come on Manu, don't fold. Come back, we miss you.
Manu getting bashed for ty play, WOW i thought it was all about Duncan in spite of 23 REb's it was all his fault, yeah right both Manu and Tony sucked.
he's more deserving of a roy williams (cowboy safety) thread.
Manu, come back!
we can work it out!
Who knows?
are you trying to compare what manu and tony has brought to the team in these PO ? i assume the OP is talking about all the PO when he says where's manu.
, are you even trying to compare manu and tony in this game (5/18 against 7/14) ?
why are you bringing tony here ? manu is playing like in these PO . i really hate that, i would like to see him score 30 ppg at 50 % for the rest of the PO, but right now, he's killing us.
Manu has played pretty well at home. On the road he's disappeared.
did you read the original post? dbreiden83080 was pissed about everyone piling up on Tim. Everyone sucked tonight.
did you read what i said ? the thread is about how much manu is sucking in these PO.
is it too difficult to admit ? why bring tim or tony here ? tony is having tremendous PO and Tim had some great games, even if overally too passive IMO. but manu sucks badly. and i really hope we'll have the real manu soon. i love him and we need him.
anyway, i agree with you. everyone sucked in this game.
Tremendous?
Maybe it's just me, but this series Tony's looked timid, and unagressive quite a bit.
I don't know what's wrong with the Big Three, but we need all of them to be super in order to get past New Orleans.
Umm... in this series before tonight, Manu was averaging 20, 7 and 5, while shooting 46%. Not exactly sucking - in fact that's a little better than his regular season numbers when people thought he was awesome. His 3 point shot has been off (and turnovers a little up), but he hasn't been sucking.
The Spurs players have had some up and down games, but for the most part Tony and Manu have played well in these playoffs.
Manu has disappeared in NO.
Along with the rest of the Spurs.
Along with Tim and Pop
You guys can start threads on the other players. For me, I'm calling out Manu. I want to see Ditka Manu!
He'll be here on Thursday. Hopefully he'll be in N.O. on Monday too.
The better question is where is Duncan
i was talking about the entire PO.
Manu is at 18.8 ppg at 45 %, 32 % 3pts, 4.1 rbs, 4.2 ass and 3.4 TO in the whole PO. not exactly what we could wait from him. (before this bad game).
even in this serie, he has a good game in G3, but isn't really the manu that we love. right now, it's only about the big three. we can't count on others players when we're facing adversity.
we always saw manu being streaky, sometimes inconsistent. but overall, he should be better and above all, he's the one on this team who can become hot and unstoppable and change alone a game when we need it the most, when everything seems to go wrong. very few players are capable to do that in the league and he's one of those.
but right now, not only we have the usually streaky manu at a low good games/bad games ratio, but we never had one of these games where he saves us. hope he saved this for the next two games.
Good player to call out.
He hasn't been in his zone forever. He needs to deliver.. Like really deliver a knock out 1-2 punch in game 6, to force a game 7 for the second one. Carn Sarnet!
He has the potential to play like the best player in the world when he's on, and he hasn't done that.
Still, those numbers aren't sucking. He hasn't been Super Manu but to say that he has sucked these whole playoffs is unfair. Those are similar to his regular season numbers (outside 3pt % and t.o.). I want him to be incredible too, but "sucking" is harsh. 19/4/4 isn't sucking.
Spurs fan got spoiled. Our big three gets harsh treatment during these losses.
I can't believe this thread. As bad as Manu was today, he was easily the best of the big three. At least he kept them in the game for a half. He led the team in points and assists. The starting point guard had four dimes.
Tony was better than Paul in Game 4 and Paul was much, much better in game 5.
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OK. so, let's say that if Tim was putting 15 ppg and 7 rpg, he wouldn't be sucking because compared to the average level of big men, these are good numbers
Our team is builted around three players. we need them to be great, which means 70 ppg combined at a good percentage. i don't know but were you saying that our team isn't well built before ? it's who we are, especially in the PO and this year more than ever.
if each of our big three puts 18 ppg at 45 % and being TO prone, we'll lose.
tony is at 26 ppg and 52 % FG (and 7 apg). tim is at 21 ppg and 50 % FG (and 12 rpg).
we need a lot more from manu, a little more from tim ( in aggressiveness) and not less from tony. otherwise, we'll lose.
oh, and i could say, considering i'm talking about manu:
Even if i know he's one of the best player ever, even if i think that his numbers wouldn't be so bad for an average swingmen in an average team not competing for the le, even if i clearly know he's not the only reason of the losses we had on the PO, even if he had some good games, i still think, IMHO, that manu, that i love and respect a lot, should be able to give us a little more as he has always done when needed the most by the past and wasn't till now able to do in these PO.
allow me to say that he sucks instead.
Last edited by kace; 05-14-2008 at 03:39 AM.
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