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    well of course they didn't coz there wasn't one.

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    The play was a set-up. Get West to raise his arms and jump while Horry pounds West in the back fully extended.

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    The play was a set-up. Get West to raise his arms and jump while Horry pounds West in the back fully extended.
    would only work if either manu or bob used jedi mind control.

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    If they would have found a problem the Spurs should've sued the NBA for fraud.

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    No but it wasn't like Horry was just out there playing ball and it happened. It was premeditated. I just think the NBA should be more like it was in the 80's when players could take justice into their own hands. I remember a big ass brawl that started with Larry Bird but he didn't even get suspended. West should have been allowed to get up and punch Horry in the mouth so he doesn't try some like that again.
    There is over 600 pounds of stupid in this post. Time for a quick breakdown:

    No but it wasn't like Horry was just out there playing ball and it happened. It was premeditated.
    If Horry can pull off that intentionally, he has body control that would make a gymnast jealous. Horry should be averaging 40 ppg with that sort of precise athletic ability.

    I just think the NBA should be more like it was in the 80's when players could take justice into their own hands. I remember a big ass brawl that started with Larry Bird but he didn't even get suspended.
    Rudy T. Derek Harper vs. AJ English. Duane Ferrell vs. Dale Davis. Kevin McHale vs. Kurt Rambis. All of these huge fights ended up spilling into the stands where paying customers (many of whom have lawyers) sit. And Rudy T. nearly died. But the NBA was better then. You're gonna go with that. Good job.

    West should have been allowed to get up and punch Horry in the mouth so he doesn't try some like that again.
    "Mandatory retaliation." :rofl

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    If Horry can pull off that intentionally, he has body control that would make a gymnast jealous.
    How much talent does it take to walk up behind a backpeddling man and lean into him with a shoulder into his injured back? Come on son, try to use a little sense when you post.

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    How much talent does it take to walk up behind a backpeddling man and lean into him with a shoulder into his injured back? Come on son, try to use a little sense when you post.
    It takes no talent in an accidental collision. That's just wrong place, wrong time. But if Horry was trying to hurt West, He would have to know within the space of 1/2 second or less that West would be backing into him and he'd have to put his hands in just the right spot to make the proper hit.

    Before you try and sell me that "these guys are trained to act in split seconds", please keep in mind that basketball players do not train for decades to hit guys in soft spots. They're basketball players, not martial artists.

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    It takes no talent in an accidental collision. That's just wrong place, wrong time. But if Horry was trying to hurt West, He would have to know within the space of 1/2 second or less that West would be backing into him and he'd have to put his hands in just the right spot to make the proper hit.

    Before you try and sell me that "these guys are trained to act in split seconds", please keep in mind that basketball players do not train for decades to hit guys in soft spots. They're basketball players, not martial artists.
    He did know several seconds in advance that West would be backing into him. West started backpeddling, then Horry stepped right up behind him and leaned in with all his weight, knowing West was totally unsuspecting. If you ever played basketball you know how it feels to get jarred from behind on a pick you didn't see, my high school basketball coach used to get pissed if you didn't call out a backscreen to warn a teammate because you can get hurt easily. Now in Horry's case, it wasn't a hard pick but the fact that West had a PINCHED NERVE in his back that makes it so bad.

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    Now in Horry's case, it wasn't a hard pick
    Thank you. So now, I guess Horry knew to apply the exact amount of pressure to make West collapse to the ground in pain, right?

    Seriously - wouldn't a dirty play be something like Horry winding up and unloading on that sore back?

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    Thank you. So now, I guess Horry knew to apply the exact amount of pressure to make West collapse to the ground in pain, right?

    Seriously - wouldn't a dirty play be something like Horry winding up and unloading on that sore back?
    Sigh..I guess you've never played contact sports enough to experience back spasms or a pinched nerve. It's like getting hit in the nuts, all it takes is a little tap. The spine is the center of your nervous system and is very sensitive. The whiplash from backing into a stationary object would have been enough to hurt, but Horry kept his weight low and leaned into it so when West hit him he would be solid and not give.

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    He did know several seconds in advance that West would be backing into him. West started backpeddling, then Horry stepped right up behind him and leaned in with all his weight, knowing West was totally unsuspecting. If you ever played basketball you know how it feels to get jarred from behind on a pick you didn't see, my high school basketball coach used to get pissed if you didn't call out a backscreen to warn a teammate because you can get hurt easily. Now in Horry's case, it wasn't a hard pick but the fact that West had a PINCHED NERVE in his back that makes it so bad.
    Jesus! so even you admit that what made the whole thing blow out of proportion is the fact that West was in such a bad shape that a pick, that wasn't even a hard pick (your words) would send him to the floor writhing in pain. Why the was West playing then? Now all of a sudden, players are supposed to take extra care NOT to aggravate the past injuries of their counterparts? are you freaking kidding me!?

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    nobody is doing anything to david west's lower back. horry has a right to set a pick, and an obligation to create a lane for ginobili to go to the basket.

    it's just unfortunate that west was playing with a bad back, especially in a game that was already decided. it wasn't robert horry's fault.

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    He did know several seconds in advance that West would be backing into him. West started backpeddling, then Horry stepped right up behind him and leaned in with all his weight, knowing West was totally unsuspecting. If you ever played basketball you know how it feels to get jarred from behind on a pick you didn't see, my high school basketball coach used to get pissed if you didn't call out a backscreen to warn a teammate because you can get hurt easily. Now in Horry's case, it wasn't a hard pick but the fact that West had a PINCHED NERVE in his back that makes it so bad.
    So it's Pargo's fault

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    Looked like a calculated play to me. Some would call it a veteran move, others a cheap shot.

    Horry saw an opportunity to give a shot to an injured West and took it.

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    Sigh..I guess you've never played contact sports enough to experience back spasms or a pinched nerve.
    Nothing says "I am all out of arguments" like unverifiable expertise.

    Well, fine. My name is Robert Terrell mings and I'm a former Spur. Now it is you who haven't played as much contact sports as I have.

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    No but it wasn't like Horry was just out there playing ball and it happened. It was premeditated. I just think the NBA should be more like it was in the 80's when players could take justice into their own hands. I remember a big ass brawl that started with Larry Bird but he didn't even get suspended. West should have been allowed to get up and punch Horry in the mouth so he doesn't try some like that again.
    Every screen a player sets is pre-meditated. If a power forward can't handle contact on a pick, he shouldn't be out on the court playing basketball. Considering how fragile West looked when he got bumped, the hornets took a big risk playing him trailing by 21 in the 4th. A gamble on a star player that didn't pay off. Welcome to the play-offs.

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    Nothing says "I am all out of arguments" like unverifiable expertise.

    Well, fine. My name is Robert Terrell mings and I'm a former Spur. Now it is you who haven't played as much contact sports as I have.
    Lame response

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    Looked like a calculated play to me. Some would call it a veteran move, others a cheap shot.

    Horry saw an opportunity to give a shot to an injured West and took it.
    Thanks for stating the obvious which obviously isn't so obvious to some.

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    Sigh..I guess you've never played contact sports enough to experience back spasms or a pinched nerve. It's like getting hit in the nuts, all it takes is a little tap. The spine is the center of your nervous system and is very sensitive. The whiplash from backing into a stationary object would have been enough to hurt, but Horry kept his weight low and leaned into it so when West hit him he would be solid and not give.
    West is sooooo fragile.

    That's why he's playing when his team is down 21 midway through the 4th quarter, with Chris Paul on the bench.

    That rough n' tough style of NBA play that you're advocating for would have had a Spurs player undercut West to intentionally injure him, perhaps permanently. If we played by those rules, Horry would have put West out of the playoffs, not out of half a quarter. And it WOULD have been intentional. But you'd be happy then, wouldn't you? Because the mark of a grown man is how many people he can hurt and how many punches he can throw to prove how "hard" he is.

    Your logics, it's calling you, and it's not happy you've abandoned it in favor of pathetically stupid homer hate. Perhaps if you were a better fisherman, you would have something to instead of troll this board looking for nibbles.

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    West is sooooo fragile.

    That's why he's playing when his team is down 21 midway through the 4th quarter, with Chris Paul on the bench.

    That rough n' tough style of NBA play that you're advocating for would have had a Spurs player undercut West to intentionally injure him, perhaps permanently. If we played by those rules, Horry would have put West out of the playoffs, not out of half a quarter. And it WOULD have been intentional. But you'd be happy then, wouldn't you? Because the mark of a grown man is how many people he can hurt and how many punches he can throw to prove how "hard" he is.

    Your logics, it's calling you, and it's not happy you've abandoned it in favor of pathetically stupid homer hate. Perhaps if you were a better fisherman, you would have something to instead of troll this board looking for nibbles.
    Hey I'm actually a decent fisherman. I'm sorry if I missed anything important, I skimmed through and saw the word "fishing."

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    ...says the former great player.

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    Every screen a player sets is pre-meditated. If a power forward can't handle contact on a pick, he shouldn't be out on the court playing basketball. Considering how fragile West looked when he got bumped, the hornets took a big risk playing him trailing by 21 in the 4th. A gamble on a star player that didn't pay off. Welcome to the play-offs.
    Don't believe he was hurt bad at all. If it was that bad, he wouldn't be going on Monday night.

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    Nothing says "I am all out of arguments" like unverifiable expertise.

    Well, fine. My name is Robert Terrell mings and I'm a former Spur. Now it is you who haven't played as much contact sports as I have.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_ mings



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    ...says the former great player.
    Ok I'll play along. If you're really Terry mings, then post a pic holding up a piece of paper that says SpursTalk. Untill then STFU

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    Ok I'll play along. If you're really Terry mings, then post a pic holding up a piece of paper that says SpursTalk. Untill then STFU
    lol, forum test myspace style

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