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    Spurs Just Need Speak´s With Splitter And Find A Solution That Benefits Both Sides. Becouse You Should Accept, That Splitter Situation In The Nba Is Worse Than Europe Becouse If He Goes There, He Couldn´t Play In His First Year, Then In The Second Year He Could Play Some Minutes And Besides, He Should Do Very Very Good Everythings........... If He Gont´s To Make A Good Contract That Allows His To Recup A Few Money That Lost During This 3 Years In Usa. So You Don´t Think It´s A High Price For Him Nowaday To Play In The Nba. Personally I Think He Could Make Money In Europe, Continue His Development And Then After 2 Or 3 Years Continue His Carrer In Nba, Why Not? He Is Very Joung And The Best Age For The Players Are 27/28!!!!!!!!!!

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    but euro and nba contracts are totally diff, when one wants out, the nba you get bought out by the club if your not in their future plans, while euro they force you to buy urself out...
    ?????

    If you want out of any contract (NBA, Euroleague or otherwise) you have to buy yourself out. If the team wants to get rid of you, then they buy you out. Where you get the money to buy yourself out and what the buyout amount is are different matters.

    BTW that practice is not limited to basketball

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    WELL FOR ALL OF US......... WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR SPLITTER IF YOU WANT HE PLAYS FOR YOUR TEAM NEXT SEASON?

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    WELL FOR ALL OF US......... WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR SPLITTER IF YOU WANT HE PLAYS FOR YOUR TEAM NEXT SEASON?
    That he realizes that although he won't be making as much money in Europe in the USA for the first couple years, that if he tries his hardest and becomes one of the better players in the NBA, he can make more in the USA later on than he's dreamed of in Europe.

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    Ok? Imagine That You Are Spliiter And You Sould Choice: Risk Two Years, Know´s That You Are Not To Play A Lot Of Minutes And Besides, Know´s That You Could Have An Injury That Makes S.a. Break´s The Contract With You Or Take The Money, Continue Your Development And Mybe In The Future Go To Usa?????????? What Would You Do?

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    Ok? Imagine That You Are Spliiter And You Sould Choice: Risk Two Years, Know´s That You Are Not To Play A Lot Of Minutes And Besides, Know´s That You Could Have An Injury That Makes S.a. Break´s The Contract With You Or Take The Money, Continue Your Development And Mybe In The Future Go To Usa?????????? What Would You Do?
    Does he really know that he wouldn't get a lot of minutes with the Spurs next year?

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    Mas acho que ele vai pra San Antonio. Ele tem o sonho de jogar na NBA e aposto que ele vai fazer isso
    Tomara que sim! Splitter em San Antonio significara mais noticias Spursense no Brasil! E mais torcida!

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    Ok? Imagine That You Are Spliiter And You Sould Choice: Risk Two Years, Know´s That You Are Not To Play A Lot Of Minutes And Besides, Know´s That You Could Have An Injury That Makes S.a. Break´s The Contract With You Or Take The Money, Continue Your Development And Mybe In The Future Go To Usa?????????? What Would You Do?
    What Would I Do? I Would Waste Time Capitalizing Every Word In Every Sentence I write. That's What I Would Do. What Would You Do?

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    The article says he's already looking for a house in San Antonio.

    Tiago said that he plans to go to San Antonio after he plays with Brazil NT

    And the most important thing:



    He guarantee he won't change his mind. "Play in NBA is the biggest dream of my life"

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    This article is from may 13, and ESPN reported that contract offer on may 15.

    I hope Tau didn't make that big offer after that article.
    Thanks for th translation/summary.

    Spurs Brazil > babelfish


    I find that most of you are panicking without a serious reason to do it. I've just a hard time seeing someone who says that deciding to stay in Europe.

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    Not capitalize the first letter of every word.

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    Ok? Imagine That You Are Spliiter And You Sould Choice: Risk Two Years, Know´s That You Are Not To Play A Lot Of Minutes And Besides, Know´s That You Could Have An Injury That Makes S.a. Break´s The Contract With You Or Take The Money, Continue Your Development And Mybe In The Future Go To Usa?????????? What Would You Do?
    Why would he only have a chance to get injured in the U.S. playing for San Antonio? Would he not have more of a chance getting injured playing more minutes in Europe (where the conditioning program/facilities are most likely not as good as in San Antonio)?

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    with or without Splitter, we will still have Mahimni next year. I wouldn't mind trying to get Javtokas (Jaktovas)...I always get his name mixed up....Is he available to come to the NBA.

    We just need to draft wisely and add quality FAs.

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    Ok? Imagine That You Are Spliiter And You Sould Choice: Risk Two Years, Know´s That You Are Not To Play A Lot Of Minutes And Besides, Know´s That You Could Have An Injury That Makes S.a. Break´s The Contract With You Or Take The Money, Continue Your Development And Mybe In The Future Go To Usa?????????? What Would You Do?
    tell the Federal Reserve to do something to improve the USD vs Euro exchange rate !

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    Javtokas had his chance. There is next to no chance that he ever plays for the Spurs.

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    If Splitter comes to NBA and plays similar to what Scola did this year within the time of his contract, he could easily earn himself 5/6 million a year afterwards.

    Come to NBA Splitter!

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    The problem here is that if he doesn't come next year - it's a wasted draft pick. The Spurs badly need to upgrade that roster NOW! Every team is getting better and closing the gap FAST. (see the Hornets and Fakers).

    Building a solid core of talent around our Big Three is important step toward remaining in championship contention over the next 3-5 years. To be ablt to accomplish this, the Spurs CANNOT afford to waste draft picks.

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    I would imagine playing with the Spurs while the big 3 are still in their prime and in the thick of the hunt would have at least some appeal. You can't be on a bigger stage than that.

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    If Splitter comes to NBA and plays similar to what Scola did this year within the time of his contract, he could easily earn himself 5/6 million a year afterwards.

    Come to NBA Splitter!
    5 / 6 million U$S a year in the NBA is about 2 / 2.4 million euros in Europe. Also lets take into consideration that if Splitter chooses to sign with the Spurs and does relatively well, he'll be locked up for 4 years @ ~~ 5.5 million total. If you factor in taxes and the exchange rate, that is a maximum of 550K Euros a year for the next 4 years. He'll certainly make a of a lot more than that in Europe. So if he's looking at the financial side of things, he'll have to aspire to much more than that to make up for what he's losing in the first 4 years by making the jump.
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    5 / 6 million U$S a year in the NBA is about 2 / 2.4 million euros in Europe. Also lets into consideration that if Splitter chooses to sign with the Spurs and does relatively well, he'll be locked up for 4 years @ ~~ 5.5 million total. If you factor in taxes and the exchange rate, that is a maximum of 550K Euros a year for the next 4 years. He'll certainly make a of a lot more than that in Europe. So if he's looking at the financial side of things, he'll have to aspire to much more than that to make up for what he's losing in the first 4 years by making the jump.
    This is all assuming that the Euro maintains against the dollar. These things have a way of fluctuating over time and it's likely that we are nearer a zenith for the Euro than otherwise.

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    This is all assuming that the Euro maintains against the dollar. These things have a way of fluctuating over time and it's likely that we are nearer a zenith for the Euro than otherwise.
    Yeah, and I'm even willing to stipulate that is likely to be the case but, unless we're talking about a turnaround of epic proportions, numbers are roughly the same. Take 1 euro ~~ 1.2 dollars for the next 4 years, and the rookie scale for Splitter translates to 690K euros a year after taxes. Same reasoning @ an average of 1 dollar per euro for the next 4 years, rounds up 825K euros a year after taxes. So basically he's guaranteed to lose more than a million / million and a half euros a year for 4 years, so he'll have to make 8 / 9 million dollars a year in the NBA for a minimum of 4 / 5 years for the reward to be worth the risk, and he'll have to wait 8 years to break even, by which time he'll be over 30. So while that may very well be the case, I think the financial benefit of making the transition to the NBA in cases like his is quite overrated.
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    TIAGO MAKES 23PTOS, 14 REBOUNDS, 3ASSISTANTS AND 31 VALUE!!!!!!!!!!
    female or male assistants?

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    Yeah, and I'm even willing to stipulate that is likely to be the case but, unless we're talking about a turnaround of epic proportions, numbers are roughly the same. Take 1 euro ~~ 1.2 dollars for the next 4 years, and the rookie scale for Splitter translates to 690K euros a year after taxes. Same reasoning @ an average of 1 dollar per euro for the next 4 years, rounds up 825K euros a year after taxes. So basically he's guaranteed to lose more than a million / million and a half euros a year for 4 years, so he'll have to make 8 / 9 million dollars a year in the NBA for a minimum of 4 / 5 years for the reward to be worth the risk, and he'll have to wait 8 years to break even, by which time he'll be over 30. So while that may very well be the case, I think the financial benefit of making the transition to the NBA in cases like his is quite overrated.
    Unless he's not very good a 4 year $36 million dollar payout should be pretty easy to get. If he's real solid there's much more to be made. If he's a bust he can always arrange to be bought out and head back to Europe. Depends on how good he thinks he is, if he has confidence in his ability.

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    It's a very simple bottom line.

    The only guarantees here are that Tiago cannot play with anyone but the Spurs should he come to the NBA. The Spurs cannot offer more than the stipulated rookie max, and never will be able to do so. Tau can offer far more money, but if Tiago takes it then he loses out on potentially far bigger NBA payouts later by cutting down the time in which he can play in the NBA.

    Injury is a risk whenever and wherever one plays. Players have big injured in pick up games at the Y.

    What does Tiago want more - money now and delaying (possibly forever) the chance to play in the NBA (certainly forgoing playing with one of the best clubs and some of the best players in their primes) OR less money (possibly forever, should he suffer an unlikely career ending injury prior to a big contract payout) to fulfill a dream.

    Only person who can weigh that out is Tiago.

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    So in 6 pages has there been ANY update as to which way he's leaning?

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