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[JamStone]

"curious" things happen in basketball. welcome to the NBA.

for example, that play in 2006 where Manu fouled Dirk when Spurs had 3pt lead. yeah that's curious. Do you think Manu intended it? nope.

you can watch ANY play in basketball and you will always find a few "curious"/unplaned/out of textbook things going on.

Which is why I merely questioned Horry's intentions, not flat out labeled it a dirty play.

[whottt]

So what if he did deliberately set the pick, knowing full well West had a bad back?


There's nothing illegal about anything he did on that play.


giving West special treatment because his back is messed up...the Spurs are supposed to take it easy on this guy because he's got a bad back?

GTFO of here..that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

If he taking it easy on us? Are the Hornets? No...they are knocking hte crap out of Tony Parker.


The more the Spurs can get David West thinking about his back the better...


If his back is that bad, he needs to get off the court.



Hopefully the Spurs will let him know on the first play of the game what kind of day and game it is going to be for him if he elects to stay out there...

[whottt]

What the next great take? Bigger players shouldn't take advantage of shorter players? Quickers players shouldn't take advantage of slower players?


Seriously...the entire premise, the very foundation of this discussion, is a stupid one to begin with and the more it is considered as some sort of issue worth debating the stupider it becomes.


As stupid as the two guys in the video.


Here's to a well conceived game plan by the Spurs in game 7...

*wrench*
*wrench*
*wrench*




Hey Einstein's..maybe basestealers in baseball shouldn't try to run on catchers that can't throw out runners.



Hey you stupid hitters...that pitcher is clearly injured and having a rough night...what kind of thug behaviois are you engaing in by hitting the ball he is throwing up there?






Next time any Hornet drives on poor Brent Barry and his wounded calf, I am going to be aghast at the lack of sportsmanship.




The idea that it's a big deal if Horry knew West had a bad back, that it somehow matters if he knew it or didn't...and has relevance as to whether or not the play was dirty...is stupid.

It wasn't a dirty play....no matter what Horry's intent was, as he is totally within in the rules and object of the game on his play.

That makes it one thing...a good play.


That makes everytime they do it...a good play. West clearly needs to be off the court if it's that big of a deal.

[SnakeBoy]

you can hate horry all you want, i bet he doesn't ing give a cause he has more championships than the entire Maverick franchise.

I have as many championships as the mavs do. And I didn't even break a sweat matching them.

[Ariel]

btw, watch Oberto very closely in game 7. He does that type of pick when Tony or Manu penetrate very ofted. A pick on the shot blocker, makes perfect sense to me.

The pick itself is not under scrutiny, it's the combination of Horry's background (consisting of a grand total of ONE questionable play, which is way overblown and now retrospectively granted a much larger significance than it actually had) and West's prior injury followed by his overreaction.

[jag]

Horry shouldn't have set that pick, especially if he knew West was having problems with with his back. You have to change your game and tailor your game around other players injuries...otherwise it's just not fair, and it's dirty.

[Texas_Ranger]

Wow... Those two are idiots!

[themvp]

Horry shouldn't have set that pick, especially if he knew West was having problems with with his back. You have to change your game and tailor your game around other players injuries...otherwise it's just not fair, and it's dirty.

whatever...



Whottt is right.

[themvp]

Horry shouldn't have set that pick, especially if he knew West was having problems with with his back. You have to change your game and tailor your game around other players injuries...otherwise it's just not fair, and it's dirty.

Hey, If other players are injured they shouldn't play.

[whottt]

You know...the more I think about it...

, the Spurs aready have the dirty label, and they aren't even dirty...


Since the Spurs already have that label, inspite of not being dirty and being of the most sportmanlike teams in the NBA for the better part of 20 years now, shouldn't they just go ahead and actually start reaping the benefits that dirty teams reap from dirty play? Shouldn't they just go ahead and become dirty?




Jamstone, as a fan of the Pistons, the dirtiest team to ever spoil an NBA court, with the dirtiest roster of players ever assembled back in the late 80's...

What are you thoughts?


I definitely consider you to be an expert on both dirty teams and dirty players having rooted for the dirtiest ever...so I am very interested in your thoughts on if the Spurs should just go ahead and become dirty and reap the benefits of dirty play, otherwise known as thugball like your team and players pioneered doing on their way to back to back championships..


Discuss.

[JamStone]

You know...the more I think about it...

, the Spurs aready have the dirty label, and they aren't even dirty...


Since the Spurs already have that label, inspite of not being dirty and being of the most sportmanlike teams in the NBA for the better part of 20 years now, shouldn't they just go ahead and actually start reaping the benefits that dirty teams reap from dirty play? Shouldn't they just go ahead and become dirty?




Jamstone, as a fan of the Pistons, the dirtiest team to ever spoil an NBA court, with the dirtiest roster of players ever assembled back in the late 80's...

What are you thoughts?


I definitely consider you to be an expert on both dirty teams and dirty players having rooted for the dirtiest ever...so I am very interested in your thoughts on if the Spurs should just go ahead and become dirty and reap the benefits of dirty play, otherwise known as thugball like your team and players pioneered doing on their way to back to back championships..


Discuss.

I think Bruce Bowen does some things that could be considered dirty. I think Robert Horry's foul on Nash last year was dirty. I don't think his foul on David West was dirty. I have questioned what his intentions were, but I don't think the pick was dirty. If David West is going to play with a bad back, then there's a risk that he'll aggravate it. It goes with the territory.

As a whole, I don't think the Spurs are dirty outside of some of the things Bruce does. Ginobili used to flop a lot and does occasionally still, but I don't think that's dirty.

So, no, I don't think the Spurs as a team are dirty. I don't think any of their players aside from Bruce are really capable of being a dirty player. Oberto and Horry have their moments, but not enough for me to consistently label them dirty players.

[still.focused]

Id like to credit Jamstone for being a fan of a team other than the Spurs
Yet not using it as a reason to straight up bash them upon every opportunity(al Suns and Hornet trolls)
With that being said if the Spurs meet the Pistons in the Finals you will be categorized as the enemy and ur every post will be treated accordingly

[ballhog]

Where are these guys from!?

Liberal whack-jobs on a Youtube channel of some sort.

[Budkin]

Liberal whack-jobs on a Youtube channel of some sort.

I'm a liberal "whack-job" who listens to the Young Turks occasionally and they really know their politics. However, they need to stay the away from their Sports analysis because they do indeed make themselves look like bags. Stick to the calling out the neocons, and not Robert Horry!

[jag]

Hey, If other players are injured they shouldn't play.

haha my comments were made out of sarcasm. West shouldnt get special treatment because he has a sore back, the fact that Horry's pick is even an issue is ridiculous.

They should actually go at West a little bit harder knowing that he's sore/hurt/has a vagina. Exploit the weakness

[ballhog]

I'm a liberal "whack-job" who listens to the Young Turks occasionally and they really know their politics. However, they need to stay the away from their Sports analysis because they do indeed make themselves look like bags. Stick to the calling out the neocons, and not Robert Horry!

Completely agree.

[jag]

Id like to credit Jamstone for being a fan of a team other than the Spurs
Yet not using it as a reason to straight up bash them upon every opportunity(al Suns and Hornet trolls)
With that being said if the Spurs meet the Pistons in the Finals you will be categorized as the enemy and ur every post will be treated accordingly

Just so you know, there are many posters of other teams here who bring quality takes. There really arent any bad Pistons posters here as far as i'm concerned, phoenix has a few good ones but most of them don't know basketball for . NO is just annoying cause they're all a bunch of playoff virgins, and other than Findog the mavs fans here are annoying.

[ClingingMars]

Horry's pick was no different than somebody near the post picking a defender so somebody like Bruce can take an open 3 from the baseline.

- Mars

[ClingingMars]

Liberal whack-jobs on a Youtube channel of some sort.

truth. i watched some of their other videos, idiots.

- Mars

[Sigz]

"Boom he takes a shot at his back."

[whottt]

I think Bruce Bowen does some things that could be considered dirty. I think Robert Horry's foul on Nash last year was dirty. I don't think his foul on David West was dirty. I have questioned what his intentions were, but I don't think the pick was dirty. If David West is going to play with a bad back, then there's a risk that he'll aggravate it. It goes with the territory.

As a whole, I don't think the Spurs are dirty outside of some of the things Bruce does. Ginobili used to flop a lot and does occasionally still, but I don't think that's dirty.

So, no, I don't think the Spurs as a team are dirty. I don't think any of their players aside from Bruce are really capable of being a dirty player. Oberto and Horry have their moments, but not enough for me to consistently label them dirty players.

That's great but I wasn't asking you if you thought the Spurs were dirty...I was asking you if you thought the Spurs should actually become dirty. I just wanted you to tell us if it's worth...being a fan of a dirty team winning a championship.

Was it worth it?


Especially if your team is already carrying that label(at least among stupid people)?

[smeagol]

Whottt is right.

When it comes to basketball, most often than not, he is.

[theroc5]

bowen does skirt the line with the rules, but he's only been suspended once.

you can hate horry all you want, i bet he doesn't ing give a cause he has more championships than the entire Maverick franchise.

- Mars

vaughn has more rings than the entire maverick franchise

[mouse]

You Hanna Montana s are some of the most Bias asshats on the www.
If that was David Robinson on the court and it was Karl Malone who put him there those two guys on Youtube would be Gods!

[jag]

You Hanna Montana s are some of the most Bias asshats on the www.
If that was David Robinson on the court and it was Karl Malone who put him there those two guys on Youtube would be Gods!

you really are bored today arent you?