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    LOL...all these NO fans are defending the pick itself but not one of them mentions anything about Chandler's kick afterwards...very typical...

    Because there was no kick afterwards. Ya'll actually posted the video yourselves. Parker has both feet around Tyson's foot when he walks away, and he pulls his foot away. No part of that video showed anything that resembled a kick. Are none of the semi-intelligent Spurs fans in this thread?

    And West was faking? Ya'll are pathetic.

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    Hornets trolls are hypocrites, that Chandler pick was ed up.

    Are you lacking friends so badly that you kiss up to Spurs fans? It's pretty funny.

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    Because there was no kick afterwards. Ya'll actually posted the video yourselves. Parker has both feet around Tyson's foot when he walks away, and he pulls his foot away. No part of that video showed anything that resembled a kick. Are none of the semi-intelligent Spurs fans in this thread?

    And West was faking? Ya'll are pathetic.


    Riiiiiggggghhhhhht

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    Because there was no kick afterwards. Ya'll actually posted the video yourselves. Parker has both feet around Tyson's foot when he walks away, and he pulls his foot away. No part of that video showed anything that resembled a kick. Are none of the semi-intelligent Spurs fans in this thread?

    And West was faking? Ya'll are pathetic.


    If you really believe that Chandler just "pulled his foot away", you are more bias than I thought. I find it easier to understand now why you guys would think Horry's back pick was malicious but this play is perfectly fine. You guys only see what you wanna see I suppose...Also, are you going to say no one stepped over Parker while he was down as well?

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    Can you imagine if Horry had "pulled his foot away" while West was down in the same fashion? There would be an ejection and suspensions handed down the next day...

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    here's the horry-west foul




    faker...he's not hurt, never was.

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    If you really believe that Chandler just "pulled his foot away", you are more bias than I thought. I find it easier to understand now why you guys would think Horry's back pick was malicious but this play is perfectly fine. You guys only see what you wanna see I suppose...Also, are you going to say no one stepped over Parker while he was down as well?
    Where did he kick him again? I forget.

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    What's the big deal?

    Both were fouls. Both were called.

    And, Tyson Chandler did not kick Tony's leg away. Their feet got tangled. At least try to be objective.

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    This is the most asinine statement. It is back spasms Dr. McStupid. There is no career ending injury here. No bulging disk or spinal problem. Just pain. You are an Idiot.
    I stand corrected. I am assuming from this statement that you have seen those x-ray's. If I would have known that you were on the Hornet's medical staff, then I would not have made that statement. Although I have to say, for a professional on the Hornets staff, such as yourself, you sure do have a serious defensive at ude. Just from reading your posts, you can't seem to have a normal human conversation without calling people names. I do not believe that I have been rude to anyone in this website or any other, which is more that I can say for you. Try calming down and stating facts to back your argument rather than resorting to name calling. That only seems to show your childish I.Q.

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    Both were hard plays but neither were fouls...and I seriously doubt Chandler was actually kicking Parker...looks like they got tangled to me.

    Now having said that, I guarantee that both Chandler and Horry were licking their chops when they saw what was coming their way. C got to take a legitimate hit against one of our top players and Horry gets to pay back by laying some wood on theirs.

    This is playoff basketball..stfu...take the hit...and play on.

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    What's the big deal?

    Both were fouls. Both were called.

    And, Tyson Chandler did not kick Tony's leg away. Their feet got tangled. At least try to be objective.
    It's hard to be when we have NO homers saying Horry's foul was malicious and intentional...it was just a back pick on an injured player that should not have been out there in the first place. Objectivity works both ways, if only NOLA fans could see that...

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    Where did he kick him again? I forget.
    What did Horry do wrong again...I forget...

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    Both were hard plays but neither were fouls...and I seriously doubt Chandler was actually kicking Parker...looks like they got tangled to me.

    Now having said that, I guarantee that both Chandler and Horry were licking their chops when they saw what was coming their way. C got to take a legitimate hit against one of our top players and Horry gets to pay back by laying some wood on theirs.

    This is playoff basketball..stfu...take the hit...and play on.

    Horry gets to pay back by standing in one spot with his arms and hands tucked in? Is this the first time this has been done? Am I missing something here? I thought that was a standard by the book pick. Would it have been a different outcome if it was Oberto instead of Horry? Maybe I saw the wrong game.

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    What did Horry do wrong again...I forget...

    You see, this is one of a thousand examples why it's impossible to have an actual conversation. I think I've been very clear on my view on all subjects involved. Ya'll have thrown out numerous completely BS replies, basically with no substance whatsoever.

    You now admit to the fact that Tyson never did anything like kicking Parker, yet go right on making up more.

    Here it is again for you to understand. Tyson's pick was completely legal, everyone knows that on both sides(except for some on this thread it appears).

    No one has any idea what Horry's intentions were behind that play. It looks very questionable for a lot of reasons. Even Spurs fans can't say that he didn't do it intentionally, but he may have had good intentions as well.

    The fans cheering West on the ground, and chanting Horry's name afterwards was one of the saddest and lowest things I've seen from fans of any sport in any city. Many on this thread appear to fit in that same group. Congrats.

    Anything else I need to clear up?

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    What's the big deal?

    Both were fouls. Both were called.

    And, Tyson Chandler did not kick Tony's leg away. Their feet got tangled. At least try to be objective.
    The only dumb asses not being objective here are these NO s that refuse to acknowledge that both Chandler's foul and Horry's foul are completely ing identical. Both hard fouls, but nothing more. The "Chandler kicked Tony afterwards" bull is just that, bull . They got tangled up, nothing more.

    @ Hornet fans calling us cry babies. Who the has been crying bloody murder since game 6 you pathetic hypocrites!? That's right, YOU!

    Hornet fans have proven to be the most idiotic ing homers we've ever had the displeasure of receiving in the forum, and that's counting the Suns trolls. Think about that...

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    You see, this is one of a thousand examples why it's impossible to have an actual conversation. I think I've been very clear on my view on all subjects involved. Ya'll have thrown out numerous completely BS replies, basically with no substance whatsoever.

    You now admit to the fact that Tyson never did anything like kicking Parker, yet go right on making up more.

    Here it is again for you to understand. Tyson's pick was completely legal, everyone knows that on both sides(except for some on this thread it appears).

    No one has any idea what Horry's intentions were behind that play. It looks very questionable for a lot of reasons. Even Spurs fans can't say that he didn't do it intentionally, but he may have had good intentions as well.

    The fans cheering West on the ground, and chanting Horry's name afterwards was one of the saddest and lowest things I've seen from fans of any sport in any city. Many on this thread appear to fit in that same group. Congrats.

    Anything else I need to clear up?
    I don't believe Tyson's pick was intended to turn out the way it did and it looked like their feet got tangled. I am a Spurs fan and I CAN say the Horry intentionally picked West, but did not mean for him to go down with a back injury. Neither outcome was intended or predicted. It just happened.
    I do not agree with fans cheering Horry's name after the incident, nor do I agree with the Hornets fans booing every time the Spurs had the ball, but fans on both sides are very passionate and you cannot fault them for that. Spurs have been hated on every court in the country in one way or another for quite a few years. Many jealous people believe that they shouldn't be where they are. I say don't criticize them, but learn from them. They have what you want.

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    This is playoff basketball..stfu...take the hit...and play on.
    I agree. I'm tired of all this "questioning the intention of a pick" crap. Seriously, it's a freaking pick.

    If you're so injured that you can't even handle a pick then don't play.

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    You see, this is one of a thousand examples why it's impossible to have an actual conversation. I think I've been very clear on my view on all subjects involved. Ya'll have thrown out numerous completely BS replies, basically with no substance whatsoever.

    You now admit to the fact that Tyson never did anything like kicking Parker, yet go right on making up more.

    Here it is again for you to understand. Tyson's pick was completely legal, everyone knows that on both sides(except for some on this thread it appears).

    No one has any idea what Horry's intentions were behind that play. It looks very questionable for a lot of reasons. Even Spurs fans can't say that he didn't do it intentionally, but he may have had good intentions as well.

    The fans cheering West on the ground, and chanting Horry's name afterwards was one of the saddest and lowest things I've seen from fans of any sport in any city. Many on this thread appear to fit in that same group. Congrats.

    Anything else I need to clear up?
    This is priceless. First Hornet fans claim that Horry's foul was dirty... now when confronted by an identical foul by one of their players, it turns out that Horry's foul isn't so much dirty, but because of last season's Nash foul (which has NOTHING to do here, except in the mind of blind haters that can't cry about anything else) its suspect...

    Well, if Horry's foul wasn't dirty, and no one can determine intent... what the are you doing throwing accusations around, that you can't back up I might add, and expect us Spurs fans to just nod our heads in agreement?? are you seriously that unbelievably dumb??

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    I personally don't find either one to be wrong. I don't think a foul should have been called on either. I do think that the spurs fans that chanted Horry when a player is hurt are classless fans. This is just a basketball game.
    Wow..what an idiot.

    This is not the wwe. Funny how Horry pick's on David West and all of a sudden he's dirty, Tyson does it and he's super clean. Get over ourself Hornets fan

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    Wow..what an idiot.

    This is not the wwe. Funny how Horry pick's on David West and all of a sudden he's dirty, Tyson does it and he's super clean. Get over ourself Hornets fan
    I didn't say one thing about him being dirty. All I said was the SA fans were classless for chanting Horry.

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    I didn't say one thing about him being dirty. All I said was the SA fans were classless for chanting Horry.
    I will agree that those idiots chanting "Horry, Horry" after it was clear that West was hurt are indeed idiots. I'm willing to bet quite a few fans just followed mob mentality here. It only takes three or four idiots, and the clueless will follow.

    (Cue whottt coming in here and declaring I'm not a Spurs fan )

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    I didn't say one thing about him being dirty. All I said was the SA fans were classless for chanting Horry.
    Which was probably not a very prominent majority of fans. This kind of thing has precedence as well, with much more malicious intent. When Michael Irvin broke his neck against Philadelphia, he was paralyzed on the field and the crowd was cheering.

    Classlessness knows no color or boundaries, and if one of the Spurs players got hurt I'm sure you would see at least a few classless fans from NO cheering that as well.

    I certainly wasn't cheering, and seeing West in pain really upset me. I never like seeing a face twisted with such discomfort.

    That being said, the play was legal, and the hit landed with far less impact than the pick set on Parker, which I feel was just a good hard pick as well. A pick is part of the game of basketball, and sadly injuries occur from time to time. Neither were dirty, both were examples of physical play. Period.

    I bet you'll hear a lot of the NO fans chanting about how "dirty" the Spurs are for that one single play in this entire series if the Spurs win tonight.

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    where are all the Hornet fans now?
    Right here.

    To anyone who actually thinks there's a double standard, are you being serious? They were both called as offensive fouls. And neither one carried a penalty that extended past the play during which the foul occurred. Officially, the fouls were EXACTLY THE SAME.

    The "cheap" aspect of Horry's foul was the well-known fact that D-West had been suffering from a sore/stiff back... and Horry leaned into West's back. That contact was accentuated by D-West jumping backwards to deflect the pass, but make no mistake... Horry leaned into the screen and aimed for his opponent's back. On the other hand, Tyson Chandler set a screen and didn't move his body at all. Parker initiated the contact (because he was moving backwards similar to West), Tyson stood still and then turned his body to rejoin the play. In order to do that, Tyson kicked his foot away from Parker's feet to avoid getting tripped up. You see this as a yank and interpret it as a kick in the air. It looks bad, no doubt. But have you ever been tangled up with someone in a sport? There's really no un-awkward way to get out of the tangle.

    Horry's shot at West was a cheap one. He knew exactly what he was doing, and it ended up hurting West... leaving him on the floor for several minutes before he was carried to the locker room. It was a hard foul -- and a cheap shot, but it was a foul. Nothing more. After getting screened by Tyson, parker was on the floor for less than 30 seconds before getting up and dribbling the ball up the court. Reggie Miller even admits the foul call was probably bogus after they show the replay.

    Horry took a cheap shot at West, and he'll deserve every boo that he hears in the Arena tonight. If y'all feel that Tyson's pick was equally hard, then feel free to boo him the next time he's at AT&T Center. Next season. In the mean time, grow a pair.

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    I will agree that those idiots chanting "Horry, Horry" after it was clear that West was hurt are indeed idiots. I'm willing to bet quite a few fans just followed mob mentality here. It only takes three or four idiots, and the clueless will follow.

    (Cue whottt coming in here and declaring I'm not a Spurs fan )
    Every fan base has there idiots. Unfortunately they are usually the ones that shine.

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    This is priceless. First Hornet fans claim that Horry's foul was dirty... now when confronted by an identical foul by one of their players, it turns out that Horry's foul isn't so much dirty, but because of last season's Nash foul (which has NOTHING to do here, except in the mind of blind haters that can't cry about anything else) its suspect...

    Well, if Horry's foul wasn't dirty, and no one can determine intent... what the are you doing throwing accusations around, that you can't back up I might add, and expect us Spurs fans to just nod our heads in agreement?? are you seriously that unbelievably dumb??

    I'm convinced the last few posts here haven't even read the entire thread. Anyone want dibs on that?

    That being said, those that can read can see that I (once again) have not said the Horry pick was dirty. But for a lot of reasons(his DIRTY play last year, a back pick in a 20 point game to an all-star with a hurt back) people can question his intentions there. No one knows what he was thinking.

    What I find interesting is the great, wonderful fans of San Antonio who are on here on and on with, you are so f'ing dumb, so stupid, you Hornets fans are the worst of the worst, you ignore everything we post, etc. yet not one actually finds any fault(or at least with bottom level intelligent reason) with anything I have said. (ignoring the fact that every post I get quoted seems to not refer to anything which was actually said).

    And Sag, just as a heads up, the Hornets fans don't boo the Spurs. They boo everyone who comes and plays in the NOLA arena. I know some fans try to spin that into how it's cause the Spurs are so great, but we've been doing it almost all year.

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