CP3's assist numbers fudged?

[2centsworth]

according to this blog yes
http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/

CP3 should of only had 9 assists instead of 14.

A Breakdown of Chris Paul's 14 Game Seven Assists

1: Stojakovic jumper, 9:22 1st q--Correct; Stojakovic caught the pass and went straight into his shooting motion.
2: Chandler dunk, 7:01 1st q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
3: West jumper, 6:21 1st q--Incorrect; West caught the ball with his back to the basket at the 6:26 mark. Paul moved from the left wing to the top of the key as West turned and faced up Fabricio Oberto. West then dribbled, did a spin move and shot a tough fadeaway jumper. There is no conceivable way that this can correctly be scored as an assist. An assist is only supposed to be awarded if the pass significantly contributed to the score and if the player who received the pass made an immediate reaction to shoot. West executed multiple moves and fakes before he scored.
4: West jumper, 4:33 1st q--Incorrect; this one is so bad it is ridiculous: West received the ball from Paul at the right free throw line extended at the 4:40 mark. West pump faked Oberto off of his feet, took four dribbles, made a spin move into the paint, came to a jump stop, did an up and under move and then shot a jump hook. Seven seconds, four dribbles and multiple fakes happened between Paul's pass and West's shot! If Paul deserves an assist, then I think that West's point guard at Xavier should get one, too--he had about as much to do with West making this shot as Paul did.
5: Chandler dunk, 7:09 2nd q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
6: Stojakovic three pointer, 5:22 2nd q--Correct; Stojakovic caught the pass and went straight into his shooting motion.
7: Peterson three pointer, 4:43 2nd q--Correct; Peterson caught the pass and went straight into his shooting motion.
8: Stojakovic jumper, 3:31 2nd q--Incorrect; Stojakovic caught the pass, pump faked, used an escape dribble and then shot. If the shooter does more than half of the work the passer is not supposed to receive credit and this basket would never have been scored without the fake and the dribble move.
9: Peterson driving layup, :24 2nd q--Incorrect; Peterson received the ball at the three point line at the :27 mark. If he had shot it at that point then Paul would deserve an assist, but Peterson took two dribbles, drove past Tony Parker, eluded Tim Duncan and made a layup. That is a one on one (or one on two) move, not an assisted field goal.
10: West dunk, :07 3rd q--Correct; West caught the pass and dunked it.
11: Chandler dunk, 10:15 4th q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
12: Pargo driving layup, 8:34 4th q--Incorrect; Pargo caught the pass at the three point line at the 8:38 mark, faked a shot, drove past Tony Parker and shot a tough runner. If assists are going to be awarded on this play and on play number nine above then every single time someone passes the ball and the recipient eventually scores an assist should be awarded. Obviously, that is not within the letter or the spirit of what an assist is supposed to be, namely a pass that creates a scoring opportunity that otherwise would not have existed. If Pargo had caught the ball and shot, then Paul would deserve an assist but once Pargo created a shot then the pass lost any claim of being worthy of being designated as an assist.
13: Chandler dunk, 7:59 4th q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
14: Pargo three pointer, 1:35 4th q--Correct; Paul back tapped an offensive rebound to Pargo, who caught the pass and shot it. Paul was rightly credited with both an offensive rebound and an assist on this play.

[brettn]

lol, nice post. for some reason, this "granting" of assisits to Paul doesn't suprise me. Hmmm, I wonder what it could be... he's not a media darling or anything is he?

4: West jumper, 4:33 1st q--Incorrect; this one is so bad it is ridiculous: West received the ball from Paul at the right free throw line extended at the 4:40 mark. West pump faked Oberto off of his feet, took four dribbles, made a spin move into the paint, came to a jump stop, did an up and under move and then shot a jump hook. Seven seconds, four dribbles and multiple fakes happened between Paul's pass and West's shot! If Paul deserves an assist, then I think that West's point guard at Xavier should get one, too--he had about as much to do with West making this shot as Paul did.

in' great.

[Behrooz24]

Dude looks funny.


Very interesting though, I'm gonna rewatch all those later

[bdictjames]

I was wondering how the did Paul manage to have 14 assists on that game, either he made it too easy or some passes counted as assists but it actually didn't.

[2centsworth]

I was wondering how the did Paul manage to have 14 assists on that game, either he made it too easy or some passes counted as assists but it actually didn't.

I was very surprised to see that many assist. No way in he had that much of an impact.

[Das Texan]

wow, thats hilarious.

[JamStone]

Definitely looks su ious. I've always gone by the two dribble-two seconds rule. If the player that gets the ball takes more than two dribbles or longer than two seconds to score, it should not be an assist.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out scorekeepers did much of the same thing for John Stockton and Jason Kidd and Magic and Isiah. Why not? Assists can be viewed arbitrarily. There does take some discretion in scoring a pass an assist. like that happens all the time. Say a fielder has a string of error-less games going, a home scorekeeper might score what should be a two base error as a double for the hitter. I've seen that before. Or a runningback that has a string of games without fumbling the ball and then on a botched fumble that's clearly the runningback's fault, the scorekeeper charges the fumble to the quarterback.

But, it definitely looks curious.

[BRHornet45]

sons whats next? he clubs baby seals?

[Cry Havoc]

according to this blog yes
http://20secondtimeout.blogspot.com/

CP3 should of only had 9 assists instead of 14.

A Breakdown of Chris Paul's 14 Game Seven Assists

1: Stojakovic jumper, 9:22 1st q--Correct; Stojakovic caught the pass and went straight into his shooting motion.
2: Chandler dunk, 7:01 1st q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
3: West jumper, 6:21 1st q--Incorrect; West caught the ball with his back to the basket at the 6:26 mark. Paul moved from the left wing to the top of the key as West turned and faced up Fabricio Oberto. West then dribbled, did a spin move and shot a tough fadeaway jumper. There is no conceivable way that this can correctly be scored as an assist. An assist is only supposed to be awarded if the pass significantly contributed to the score and if the player who received the pass made an immediate reaction to shoot. West executed multiple moves and fakes before he scored.
4: West jumper, 4:33 1st q--Incorrect; this one is so bad it is ridiculous: West received the ball from Paul at the right free throw line extended at the 4:40 mark. West pump faked Oberto off of his feet, took four dribbles, made a spin move into the paint, came to a jump stop, did an up and under move and then shot a jump hook. Seven seconds, four dribbles and multiple fakes happened between Paul's pass and West's shot! If Paul deserves an assist, then I think that West's point guard at Xavier should get one, too--he had about as much to do with West making this shot as Paul did.
5: Chandler dunk, 7:09 2nd q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
6: Stojakovic three pointer, 5:22 2nd q--Correct; Stojakovic caught the pass and went straight into his shooting motion.
7: Peterson three pointer, 4:43 2nd q--Correct; Peterson caught the pass and went straight into his shooting motion.
8: Stojakovic jumper, 3:31 2nd q--Incorrect; Stojakovic caught the pass, pump faked, used an escape dribble and then shot. If the shooter does more than half of the work the passer is not supposed to receive credit and this basket would never have been scored without the fake and the dribble move.
9: Peterson driving layup, :24 2nd q--Incorrect; Peterson received the ball at the three point line at the :27 mark. If he had shot it at that point then Paul would deserve an assist, but Peterson took two dribbles, drove past Tony Parker, eluded Tim Duncan and made a layup. That is a one on one (or one on two) move, not an assisted field goal.
10: West dunk, :07 3rd q--Correct; West caught the pass and dunked it.
11: Chandler dunk, 10:15 4th q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
12: Pargo driving layup, 8:34 4th q--Incorrect; Pargo caught the pass at the three point line at the 8:38 mark, faked a shot, drove past Tony Parker and shot a tough runner. If assists are going to be awarded on this play and on play number nine above then every single time someone passes the ball and the recipient eventually scores an assist should be awarded. Obviously, that is not within the letter or the spirit of what an assist is supposed to be, namely a pass that creates a scoring opportunity that otherwise would not have existed. If Pargo had caught the ball and shot, then Paul would deserve an assist but once Pargo created a shot then the pass lost any claim of being worthy of being designated as an assist.
13: Chandler dunk, 7:59 4th q--Correct; Chandler caught the pass and dunked it.
14: Pargo three pointer, 1:35 4th q--Correct; Paul back tapped an offensive rebound to Pargo, who caught the pass and shot it. Paul was rightly credited with both an offensive rebound and an assist on this play.

Props for the find and MAJOR props for the research. Paul was a shadow yesterday except for a brief stint in the 2nd quarter. 14 assists is ridiculous.

[ChumpDumper]

It's not a knock on Paul. Your statkeepers either don't know their job or they are inflating Paul's assist numbers.

And they club baby seals.

[Whisky Dog]

Steve Nash's greatness has been exposed

[101A]

Anybody check Paul's assist numbers home vs. away? This is two games in this series (both in NO) that the number was inflated.

[PM5K]

I posted this over there:

I checked all of these are you are totally correct.

The play by play on ESPN shows all of those as assists, while replaying those posessions again clearly shows none of those passes to be assists, none of them are even reasonably close to being assists.

So the real question is, how often does this happen?

[CP3-MVP]

it happends all the time in the league.

spurs fans really have something against the kid, huh?

[ChumpDumper]

I have something against baby seal clubbing statkeepers who don't know what an assist is.

[slowchild25]

Chris Paul regular season assists splits:

Home 11.9
Away 11.2

[Spurminator]

Aren't the scorekeepers neutral in the Playoffs?

[mVp]

This confirms that Paul's ass is overrated.

[Darcus]

I wonder if the Spurs really swept but they kept the scores wrong too

[K-State Spur]

sons whats next? he clubs baby seals?

well, illegitimate bas child that i barely choose to acknowledge, it's right there in plain print - disprove it.

[slowchild25]

Chris Paul playoff assists splits:

Home 13.57
Away 8.00

hmmmm...

[CP3-MVP]

I hear CP3 is responsible for crucifying Jesus, too.

Oh and he is involved in a dog fighting ring with Michael Vick.

[Spuradicator]

I thought 14 seemed excessive for how much of a ghost he was

[koriwhat]

CP3 looking sharp for the cameras.


CP3 reenacting his run off the court.

[PM5K]

it happends all the time in the league.

spurs fans really have something against the kid, huh?

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid, I even have his shoes, but I don't like such obvious stat fudging for anybody...