That's a good pic, I thought it was a Laker foul. But looking at the picture, Horry's got a nice hold on Odom, good non-call by the refs. Lucky Sasha was there to grab it. Sneaky Rob.
Detroit @ Boston
S. Javie
S. Corbin
T. Washington
Prob Salvatore to take over the spurs game
he haven't officiate quite long time
That's a good pic, I thought it was a Laker foul. But looking at the picture, Horry's got a nice hold on Odom, good non-call by the refs. Lucky Sasha was there to grab it. Sneaky Rob.
The foul on Manu had already occurred at that point. Notice both Manu and Horry diving for the ball and Odom (bracing his legs and NOT falling) boxing Horry out. Horry got there later and got boxed-out by Odom and was trying to work his way around to get to the ball.
I think the refs actually called a good game for once. There were alot of calls I saw that could have easily gone LA's way but didn't. We F'ed that game up all by our lonesome.
I thought the game was called pretty fairly until the last few minutes.
I thought "we" were bad on the Lakers boards, but some of you guys take the cake.
The Gasol "hack" on Duncan out of bounds was a Lakers foul. However, 10 seconds later, Manu fouled Gasol diving for the ball out of bounds, yet the ball was given to the Spurs. That's an even wash. Continually bringing up the Gasol hack without bringing up the foul Manu got away with shows the blinders you're wearing.
And you want to talk about Kobe's "push-off" on Bowen? First, there's no way in that's a foul. TD and Parker do that almost every time down the floor going to the hoop. Where is Kobe supposed to have his arm? He didn't extend it - it was close to his chest. Completely incidental and Bowen flopped. There was no lowering of his shoulder. He was driving to the lane. Keep fishing or excuses though. If that's a foul on Kobe, then every player in the league is guilty of that "foul" on almost every possession where a player drives to the lane.
TD should've fouled out in the 3rd quarter with the fouls he commits, yet you complain about Gasol's? TD shots free throws a few times on some Turiaf fouls where replays showed very little contact, if any. Yet TD gets those calls because of who he is.
You guys have no right to about refs. Overall, that game was pretty decently officiated in comparison to other series' so far. Props to the fans not reaching for that ref excuse on this one.
Did you "watch" the game on your Braile teletype machine?
Did you watch the game at all? Keep fishing. Pathetic excuse makers. I supposed Gasol forced Manu to come flying in and push him into Duncan so the refs could give Timmy some FTs, too, right? I don't see you guys ing about that bogus call that lead directly to Spurs points.
There's not a legit ref or fan that would say that's a foul on Kobe. He played within his space and didn't force his way into Bowen. Take off the blinders - er, blindfold.
Explain this, or make an appointment with an optometrist.
Because if you think that is true, you were clearly watching a different game than the rest of the planet.
Or you are just making up...
Last edited by zepn; 05-22-2008 at 09:53 AM.
I am shocked to come to SpursTalk and find an entire thread devoted to the refs.
I originally thought that the officiating had something to do with the Mavs losing to Miami in the 2006 Finals but I was corrected by all of the sage basketball experts on this forum who educated me to the fact that the refs had little to no impact on the outcome of that series.
Now, the Spurs blow a 20 point lead and apparently the refs are to blame for it?
Hmmm....I think just froze over.
Those "Sage Experts" were full of . You guys got ED in 2006.
Even if the Spurs had blown a thousand point lead they were still in it at the End. And the End was when the lead changed from the Spurs to the Lakers. And the End was called, let's be diplomatic and say "less evenly" than the previous 45 minutes of the game.
No lowering his shoulder INTO Bowen. Perhaps I need to be more clear. It's called physics. See - when you start to run and are slanted a certain direction, that shoulder will lower because you are leaning. The fact that Bowen was up in Kobe's shirt does not automatically make it a foul because Kobe "lowered his shoulder." Gimme a break. Only Spurs fans are ing about that good non-call. Even fans from other teams that hate the Lakers know it wasn't a foul. Get over it. What about Manu undercutting Gasol and shoving him into Duncan, where Gasol was called for a foul and Spurs got 2 points? I don't see you hung up on that ty call because it benefited your team. Blind homer.
Teams are always going to get favorable calls on their home floor. Thats just the way it is.
I expect the Spurs to get more calls on their court as well......well unless Joey Crawford is ref'ing![]()
Nothing really stood out at me last night about the officiating, other than that one out of bounds call under the basket which was called off TD. Gasol whacked TD pretty good but of course none of the refs had a good angle on that. In any event, that didn't cost the Spurs the game.
On to game 2.
There were some phantom and ty calls made, but it's obvious that the Spurs beat themselves last night. The Lakers didn't shut 'em down, the refs didn't shut 'em down, they did that to themselves.
The weak back-peddling we have been expecting.
I have seen lots of other people running and none of THEM look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame trying to break down a door...
(If you want to talk Physics, I averaged 4.0 in all available calculus-based Physics classes for Science Majors...)
Last edited by zepn; 05-22-2008 at 02:23 PM.
The Spurs blew a comfortable lead. No doubt about that. But 2 or 3 of the bad calls/non calls that favored the Lakers did have an impact. That's not to say that the Spurs would have won had the correct calls been made, but it did have an impact. Unfortunately, if Parker and Ginobili had made better decisions, Finley made more shots, and the Spurs played better defense, it would be a non issue.
I'm not taking anything from the Lakers. They played their balls off in the 2nd half and pulled out the win and they deserve credit for that.
I put 99.8% of the blame on the Spurs, .2% on the blown calls.
There were blown calls in both directions. Nobody can complain.
The Lakers simply snatched that victory away from the Spurs.
I find it hilarious that some of you are trying to get a call from this? not to mention it was an obvious flop kobe barely touched the guy,
it was the last seconds in the game and you want a call that most likely would not even be called during the regular course of the game,
ANDDD it was bruce bowen. if every foul or dirty little play bruce bowen commited would the game ever finish?
however, this is not all of you, the board seems half and half where some of you actually watched the game and know what your talking about while the others want to blame the refs?
im sorry but you guys are world champions you had a 20 point lead and lost it and its the refs fault? those of you that think this should watch the game again because this game could not be called more fair.
and i also want to say you guys scared the crap out of me early in the game. lol, good luck on the series though
This is another shameful thread. One loss and everyone goes bananas.
And brings out a load of panic threads
The officiating last night was pretty good imo. At least they let both teams play.
After Manu missed the 3 point last shot there was a foul on him and the ref called a FT for the lakers.....
I find it hilarious that you think anyone is TRYING to get a call. The game is over.
When a player lowers his shoulder and runs into another player. That is usually an automatic foul.
Good thinking, it wouldn't be important to call fouls correctly in the last seconds of the game...
Uh, no. The foul should have been called on Kobe, not Bruce.
Blowing a big lead and the ref's bad/no calls in the last three minutes are completely independent events. The last three minutes definitely could have been called more fairly.
Kobe is a talentless Laker scrub?
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