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    Then I won't post the one about the mother who poured boiling water over her son as he sat in a bathtub then waited 4 days to seek medical help and got 6 MONTHS IN JAIL and will most likely regain custody of her son after the sentence is up.
    Apparently a child's life isn't valued too highly in this country. Funny how you can get jail time for truancy yet a child molester can get off with only probation and the label "sex offender".

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    Yeah, I'm not sure the death penalty would be adequately harsh on the guy in this case. I'm generally for the death penalty, but if I were to critique it, one of my reservations against it is that it's not hard enough on creeps like this.

    I'd prefer him to be in the middle of the Nevada desert, eating bread and water, turning big rocks in little rocks. And being beaten regularly.

    Ok so how about this:

    Put out his eyes, cut out his tongue, destroy his sense of hearing, cut off all his arms and legs(or sever the nerves that control them at the spinal cord), and if there's any way possible get rid of his sense of touch as well...


    and then keep him alive via intravenous feeding for as long as is humanly possible? With the caveat that he is trapped completely in his own mind and unable to interact with anything or anyone else?

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    The guy should be given the death penalty. That way tax payers don't have to pay for keeping him alive.
    The cost to the taxpayers to keep an inmate in jail for life are, on average, less than the cost to the taxpayers for the multiple appeals and execution in a capital punishment case/sentence.

    Also, it could be easily offset if we, as a country, stopped putting people in jail for years and years and years on minor drug and pros ution charges.

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    Ok so how about this:

    Put out his eyes, cut out his tongue, destroy his sense of hearing, cut off all his arms and legs(or sever the nerves that control them at the spinal cord), and if there's any way possible get rid of his sense of touch as well...


    and then keep him alive via intravenous feeding for as long as is humanly possible? With the caveat that he is trapped completely in his own mind and unable to interact with anything or anyone else?
    Keep that at least around the chest/stomach area that way you can randomly come into his little box and jab him with a few red hot pokers/branding irons.

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    The cost to the taxpayers to keep an inmate in jail for life are, on average, less than the cost to the taxpayers for the multiple appeals and execution in a capital punishment case/sentence.

    Also, it could be easily offset if we, as a country, stopped putting people in jail for years and years and years on minor drug and pros ution charges.
    I don't disagree with you here Funt, but I can't help feeling that by keeping him alive we are placing more value on his life than that of the baby he killed. I'm always torn in the death penalty debate.

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    Anyway all you guys arguing that he should be kept alive to make it "harder" on him...are missing the point entirely...it's not about making it harder on him, it's not about vengeance(in the eyes of the law I mean), it's not about cruelty, it's about justice. What is easier on him or harder on him is not the question...it's about getting justice for the victim, and reducing the danger to others. and keeping a murderer alive seldom gives the victim justice for the crime commited. or reduces his danger to others...only one thing gives justice for murder. and it also does a pretty effective job of rendering the criminal no longer a threat to others...and that's the death sentence.

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    it's times like this i wish there was a so that this er could burn in it no matter how he dies. usually i'd say electric chair his ass and get it the over with, but since child killers/molesters seem to get theirs in jail anyways, i say let the er get his.

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    The cost to the taxpayers to keep an inmate in jail for life are, on average, less than the cost to the taxpayers for the multiple appeals and execution in a capital punishment case/sentence.

    Also, it could be easily offset if we, as a country, stopped putting people in jail for years and years and years on minor drug and pros ution charges.
    What people are we putting in jail for years and years on minor drug and pros ution charges? I think you are exaggerating.

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    What people are we putting in jail for years and years on minor drug and pros ution charges? I think you are exaggerating.
    errr, actually not so much. it's a proven fact (don't want to look up/link the research now) that lotsa people get heavier sentences for drug charges (marijuana often times) then robbers, rapists and sometimes even murderers.

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    Anyway all you guys arguing that he should be kept alive to make it "harder" on him...are missing the point entirely...it's not about making it harder on him, it's not about vengeance(in the eyes of the law I mean), it's not about cruelty, it's about justice. What is easier on him or harder on him is not the question...it's about getting justice for the victim, and reducing the danger to others. and keeping a murderer alive seldom gives the victim justice for the crime commited. or reduces his danger to others...only one thing gives justice for murder. and it also does a pretty effective job of rendering the criminal no longer a threat to others...and that's the death sentence.
    It's impossible for there to be actual justice in a case like this. Ever.

    But, then, I've never been the type who sees "justice" and "vengeance" as interchangable terms.

    I just don't see what the death penalty does, or what it actually accomplishes.

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    What people are we putting in jail for years and years on minor drug and pros ution charges? I think you are exaggerating.
    No, I'm not. With this country's war on drugs and "three strikes" laws, there are many people, especially women, who are serving close to life sentences for minor possession charges.

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    errr, actually not so much. it's a proven fact (don't want to look up/link the research now) that lotsa people get heavier sentences for drug charges (marijuana often times) then robbers, rapists and sometimes even murderers.
    I know of no pros utes that served multiple years hard time for the crime of pros ution.

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    No, I'm not. With this country's war on drugs and "three strikes" laws, there are many people, especially women, who are serving close to life sentences for minor possession charges.
    Link please.

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    I know of no pros utes that served multiple years hard time for the crime of pros ution.
    yeah, i was referring mainly to the drug reference. don't know any data about the whole pros ute thing.

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    The drug penalties are absolutely true. That is why the first step has finally been taken by making the distinction legally between powder cocaine and crack (rock) cocaine. The millions and millions of dollars spent on the "War on Drugs" has been a total waste.

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    You're welcome to go searching through Bureau of Justice statistics, if you'd like, but once was enough for me. I'd rather do the housework I'm avoiding.

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    You're welcome to go searching through Bureau of Justice statistics, if you'd like, but once was enough for me. I'd rather do the housework I'm avoiding.
    No thanks. I'll just assume you were exaggerating.

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    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/ma...pris-m26.shtml

    Though 70 percent of those serving life sentences are in prison for murder convictions, the composition of this segment of the prison population is changing due to the increased frequency of life sentences for drug crimes and cases that do not involve violent offenses. Around 5,000 people are serving a life sentence for a drug offense, 2,000 in the federal prison system. In California, half of the 7,335 people incarcerated for drug offenses under an infamous “three strikes” law were incarcerated for simple drug possession.

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    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/ma...pris-m26.shtml

    Though 70 percent of those serving life sentences are in prison for murder convictions, the composition of this segment of the prison population is changing due to the increased frequency of life sentences for drug crimes and cases that do not involve violent offenses. Around 5,000 people are serving a life sentence for a drug offense, 2,000 in the federal prison system. In California, half of the 7,335 people incarcerated for drug offenses under an infamous “three strikes” law were incarcerated for simple drug possession.
    Nothing about pros ution there...

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    I would kick this guys ass. Let him heal, kick his ass some more. Do this once a month forever.

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    I think T-long is looking for a girlfriend?

    Really, though, while I lean toward keeping the death penalty legal, I also take seriously some the issues being raised: the lack of ultimate justice (the state can't do it, no matter how hard the penalty), the cost to the taxpayers, etc.

    I just don't get all that excited about the fate of lowlifes like this guy who beat this girl to death. If there's reasonable evidence that, say, someone on death row might be innocent, then I'm all for clemency. But I'm not sure why people get all upset about a few murderers getting fried (or injected) -- where is this outrage about other crimes against humanity (e.g., forced pros ution, abortion, slavery)?

    Trust me, I'm not unconcerned about convicted murderers. I'm just alot more concerned about women and children being brutalized, sold, etc. I'll spend my time and energy defending them, thankyou.

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    No, I'm not. With this country's war on drugs and "three strikes" laws, there are many people, especially women, who are serving close to life sentences for minor possession charges.
    Nothing about pros ution there...

    I didn't see anything about pros ution in the original post where you asked for a link from, I assumed you where asking for a link to back up the drug possession charges. I have no idea about the pros ution portion of this.

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    it's times like this i wish there was a so that this er could burn in it no matter how he dies.
    Ladies and gentlemen of ST ... we have a time and space traveler!

    Come behold the first human being to successfully step outside of space and time as we know it -- ATXrocksmoker! In his latest trip outside of the bounds of the universe, he was able to determine that there is, indeed, no . No word on how he was able to determine this.

    So, tell us ... rocker, do the Spurs repeat this year?

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    So, tell us ... rocker, do the Spurs repeat this year?
    short answer, no you dumb . if i had known you would have tooken such offense, i would have gone out of my way to further do so. shouldn't you be wasting your time bashing, shooting thugs or trying to convert everyone over to the lord than posting on a message board?

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    Ladies and gentlemen of ST ... we have a time and space traveler!

    Come behold the first human being to successfully step outside of space and time as we know it -- ATXrocksmoker! In his latest trip outside of the bounds of the universe, he was able to determine that there is, indeed, no . No word on how he was able to determine this.
    and lmao @ the notion that you have "traveled outside of space" to determine that there IS a . keep your bible preaching in church, old timer.

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