Sincerely,If you don't have haters in your life, you must not be doing all the right things.
George W. Bush
And now the Lakers are in the Western Conference Finals, 2 wins away from the NBA Finals.
Yeah Kobe ed about his situation. Yes, he's a jerk and an egomaniac.
But, you know what? He got what he wanted. So, now those who want to criticize him and the Lakers are left with ing about his ing, crying about his crying.
Close the circle.
Exactly.
I can't stand the man but I gotta admit - anyone who says " it, I'm gonna do it my way" to the entire world got some King Kong brass ones.
The man strong-armed the Presidency and has ran the US like his personal , taking out other es (countries) along the way.
The worse President in US History but one of the biggest gangsta moves ever. Scarface and Michael Corleone can't even come close.
I'd rather not. If that reflects badly on me in some way, well, I'm just a poster on a message board. He's the face of an NBA franchise and the league's MVP. One of us bears a great deal of responsibility.But, you know what? He got what he wanted. So, now those who want to criticize him and the Lakers are left with ing about his ing, crying about his crying.
Close the circle.
Exactly.
I can't stand the man but I gotta admit - anyone who says " it, I'm gonna do it my way" to the entire world got some King Kong brass ones.
The man strong-armed the Presidency and has ran the US like his personal , taking out other es (countries) along the way.
The worse President in US History but one of the biggest gangsta moves ever. Scarface and Michael Corleone can't even come close.
I have to admit, I didn't think you would own that!
That responsibility as a franchise player is to get his team to win. He wanted the best chance to give his team the opportunity to win.
You can criticize Kobe for his character flaws, his ego, his alleged sexual assault along with other off the court , for being a mean teammate at times. But, you cannot question his desire to win, his work ethic, or his undeniable talent.
That desire to win is the reason he ed. And, that ing got him Pau Gasol which in turn gave his team a better chance to win, which is one of--and probably the most important of his--many responsibilities as a franchise player.
Since Kwame + filler got the "deal" done, I don't see why Pop would have wanted to trade Manu for him. Not sure if he offered Oberto + filler (and even still, Oberto > Kwame), but either way the Grizz were only going to make a deal with the Lakers.
Collusion.
I'd say the resurgence of the Celtics and David Stern's cream-filled undies thinking of Lakers/Celtics in the Finals got Kobe his Robin.
^ the spurs didnt have a 9 million dollar expiring contract. u guys crying collusion is ridiculous. just listen to yourselves.
if there is collusion in the nba, the knicks would be contending year in and year out. plus it would be like pro wrestling and the extent of its fan base would be kids and guys living in their moms basement making minimum wage.
Can't you do that without making an ass of yourself every offseason? Did Paul Pierce make a big stink every offseason? Did LeBron James?That responsibility as a franchise player is to get his team to win. He wanted the best chance to give his team the opportunity to win.
I assume you mean "can't" question his desire to win, etc. In any event, I did not. Kobe is an amazing player and it would be stupid of me to argue otherwise.But, you can question his desire to win, his work ethic, or his undeniable talent.
Are you saying " ing = greater desire to win?"That desire to win is the reason he ed. And, that ing got him Pau Gasol which in turn gave his team a better chance to win, which is one of--and probably the most important of his--many responsibilities as a franchise player.
Yeah cuz the best way to rebuild is to get draft picks in the mid-to-late 20's and dump salary in order to attract high profile free agents to play in....uh....Memphis.
Collusion.
Its a business. When opportunity presents itself, opportunists like Stern and co will take advantage of it.
Maybe conspiracy theories are a little ridiculous when it comes to every little thing but not they're not that far-fetched with blatantly imbalanced. People still bend rules when they can.
when u have a cheap ass owner who doesnt care about winning. only making money yes thats the best way. what has memphis done. nothing. what will they do in the same division as the spurs mavs rockets hornets. nothing. so their logic is why play gasol 14 mil a year when they are gonna lose.
Now Memphis is forced to use their high draft pick on the same position they traded away with Gasol. Insane. Just insane.
Or collusion.
Or bad GM work - which of course never happens.
Or the simplest answer - its always over dough.
Kobe kept quiet for three years. Frustration can make you do some outrageous things. Paul Pierce doesn't get followed around by fans video taping his every word. There is a lot of indication that he was ing as much as Kobe but you don't hear about it because he's not Kobe. LeBron is on the verge of exploding in a similar way Kobe did last summer.
Nope. But, in Kobe's case, his ing was partly a result of his desire to win.Are you saying " ing = greater desire to win?"
There are a lot of stupid GMs and CEOs out there, but none are stupid enough to pull that trade without extra incentive. Besides the fact, if that trade was for Gasol any other direction - the Clips or the Bucks, say - the league steps in and makes a couple suggestions. If he were sent out to San Antonio for sure it would have been nixed. Stern would have gone unitary executive all over that trade. Instead he masturbates quietly in his offices and pretend nothing happened.
And partly his emptiness in all other parts of his life.
yes cuz they dont have to pay 14 mil to a 1st round pick like they had to pay gasol in the next 4 years competing with the hornets rockets mavs and spurs.
or ure a moron that cries collusion when you have nothing meaningful to say
Lakers Fans
If I were you I would readily admit that yes we ed the grizzlies big time and spat in the face of every team in the league who try to build le contenders the conventional way. That way you wouldn't look like idiots trying to defend the trade as legitimate and at the same time you'd be sticking it to everyone cause you know you cheated and there's nothing anyone can do about it. BUUu bututtbbuttt javaris criterdom is gonna be a big star one day!!!
To be fair, we all know the Grizzlies desperately needed a young PG because they weren't able to get somebody like Mike Conley Jr. in the draft.javaris criterdom is gonna be a big star one day!!!
Right. Name another trade that has ever been nixed outside of cap purposes?
You want extra incentive? Memphis owner is looking to sale the team and wants as small as payroll as possible as well as the most appealing roster. New owners always want to rebuild teams and having young talent and picks is the best ammo to do that.
No conspiracy. Just a situation where one team didn't care about short-term on court value and wanted fiancial flexibility instead of talent.
If you want to complain about a collusion - look into how owners are using the lux tax as a de facto hard salary cap and its why so many won't go over it even though they are making plenty to pay it and still turn a huge profit. Thats why teams like Chicago wouldn't bite. But of course - looking at that would demand a larger understanding of the league instead of just going off a couple of articles and what someone said on Mike and Mike.
no we ed the grizzles but ure the one ing about it. dont hate cuz u didnt get him for next to nothing. trades like this happen all the time as i pointed out before.Lakers Fans
If I were you I would readily admit that yes we ed the grizzlies big time and spat in the face of every team in the league who try to build le contenders the conventional way. That way you wouldn't look like idiots trying to defend the trade as legitimate and at the same time you'd be sticking it to everyone cause you know you cheated and there's nothing anyone can do about it. BUUu bututtbbuttt javaris criterdom is gonna be a big star one day!!!
build le contenders the conventional way? tell me oh great one what way is that? making trades that DONT improve your team?
That I agree.Lakers Fans
If I were you I would readily admit that yes we ed the grizzlies big time and spat in the face of every team in the league who try to build le contenders the conventional way. That way you wouldn't look like idiots trying to defend the trade as legitimate and at the same time you'd be sticking it to everyone cause you know you cheated and there's nothing anyone can do about it. BUUu bututtbbuttt javaris criterdom is gonna be a big star one day!!!
When judging by talent, we hustled Memphis and told the league to kiss our ass.
I don't see anything wrong with admitting that. But crying a river about it is even worse but thats because you know your era is almost over and its hard to have faith that the organization will rise again to the top from the bottom. As a Laker fan, I'm not worried because I know the franchise can come back time and time again. For the Lakers, barely making the playoffs is the bottom.
what a re ed thread. Especially on a forum for a team who owe every ring to their blatant tanking to ensure getting duncan.
Grizzlies were open for business on Gasol. No one else wanted to take on his contract. West was already gone and had nothing whatsoever to do with it, other than having been there a year earlier when the first talks were had.
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