The Gasol Trade

[turiaf for president]

To be fair, we all know the Grizzlies desperately needed a young PG because they weren't able to get somebody like Mike Conley Jr. in the draft.

you must be working for the grizzles knowing what they are looking for.

[Mr. Body]

what a re ed thread. Especially on a forum for a team who owe every ring to their blatant tanking to ensure getting duncan.

Grizzlies were open for business on Gasol. No one else wanted to take on his contract. West was already gone and had nothing whatsoever to do with it, other than having been there a year earlier when the first talks were had.

1. on the Spurs tanking garbage.

2. Chicago, among other teams were in the market for Gasol. It turned out the Grizz were selling him for ten cents on the dollar. Somehow - wonder of wonders - the league was alright with this. This Lakers fantasy that no other teams were offering value for him is a pipe dream.

[2Cleva]

What thispego is trying to do is like one of the nerds in school trying to yell at the HS BMOC for always getting all the hot girls.

Sad.

And Laker fans defending it are even worse. Just say "yeah, we ed her" and move on and keep pimping.

[monosylab1k]

you must be working for the grizzles knowing what they are looking for.

redundancy at PG was obviously a big need for them.

[thispego]

To be fair, we all know the Grizzlies desperately needed a young PG because they weren't able to get somebody like Mike Conley Jr. in the draft.

if i were a grizzly fan i would be purchasing western conference finals tickets for 2010 right now

[turiaf for president]

1. on the Spurs tanking garbage.

2. Chicago, among other teams were in the market for Gasol. It turned out the Grizz were selling him for ten cents on the dollar. Somehow - wonder of wonders - the league was alright with this. This Lakers fantasy that no other teams were offering value for him is a pipe dream.

the bulls def were offering talent but they were all due for contract extensions. gordon turned down 10 mil a year from the bulls. you think the grizzles are gonna play gordon more than 10 mil a year when gasol was making 14? no way no how.

[Findog]

redundancy at PG was obviously a big need for them.

It's not like Conley or Lowry plays for the Grizz and are the exact same thing: promising young points.

[Mr. Body]

What thispego is trying to do is like one of the nerds in school trying to yell at the HS BMOC for always getting all the hot girls.

Sad.

And Laker fans defending it are even worse. Just say "yeah, we ed her" and move on and keep pimping.

Uh, okay dude. And... uh... you're like most Lakers fans who think their sexual prowess and pathetic lives rise momentarily out of the basement because they think because they picked the team Hollywood stars picked somehow that glitz has rubbed off on them.

[monosylab1k]

It's not like Conley or Lowry plays for the Grizz and are the exact same thing: promising young points.

Maybe the Grizz are looking to play extreme small ball next year - Conley, Lowry, & Javaris all starting, with Rudy Gay at PF and Mike Miller at C. Brilliant!

[turiaf for president]

redundancy at PG was obviously a big need for them.

on the outside ure prolly right.

but conley was injured this year and they dont know if hes gonna be the same player again. plus getting j critt was an "audition" amongst conley, lowry and critt to see who they were going to trade away (their gm said so). plus to them marc gasol was a good prospect and drafting a big man high in this years draft means 3-4 mil a year for the next 4 years to them rather than playing gasol 60 mil in the same time span

[Mr. Body]

the bulls def were offering talent but they were all due for contract extensions. gordon turned down 10 mil a year from the bulls. you think the grizzles are gonna play gordon more than 10 mil a year when gasol was making 14? no way no how.

That looks a lot like an expiring contract to me.

[turiaf for president]

What thispego is trying to do is like one of the nerds in school trying to yell at the HS BMOC for always getting all the hot girls.

Sad.

And Laker fans defending it are even worse. Just say "yeah, we ed her" and move on and keep pimping.

lol

im not defending the fact that we ed the grizzlies. im defending the fact that trades like this happen all the time and the grizzlies valid reasons (on their part) for making this lopsided trade

[LakerRings]

1. on the Spurs tanking garbage.

2. Chicago, among other teams were in the market for Gasol. It turned out the Grizz were selling him for ten cents on the dollar. Somehow - wonder of wonders - the league was alright with this. This Lakers fantasy that no other teams were offering value for him is a pipe dream.

oh please - the whole world knows the spurs tanked to get duncan - are you kidding? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv24frDECA4


Chicago didn't have the expiring contract to give the grizzlies what they wanted. But who cares? Your team is getting old,a nd will be dominated by the lakers for years to come. enjoy it.

[Mr. Body]

im not defending the fact that we ed the grizzlies. im defending the fact that trades like this happen all the time and the grizzlies valid reasons (on their part) for making this lopsided trade

Name another trade that was anywhere -- anywhere -- close to this one. There are none. And the Grizzlies had no real valid reasons to make the trade. That's why -- surprise, surprise -- so many league observers were shocked by it. This kind of trade -- All-Star for absolutely nothing, not even decent players like Hornacek and Jeff Malone -- never happens. It absolutely never happens.

[turiaf for president]

That looks a lot like an expiring contract to me.

contract extensions arent only expiring contracts genius. its also restricted free agents and rookie contracts that are eligible for extensions I.E gordon, tyrus thomas etc. plus they woulda had to take nocioni's 8 mil a year deal also and that was the deal breaker

[41times]

No he wasn't the GM. But where was he the GM? Where does he still have ties? The Lakers didn't make the ing trade with the Idaho Stampede, did they? West wasn't a Celtics star, was he?

Yes, Marc Gasol, who may someday platoon deep on the bench for a rotting Memphis team, may someday in some manner put up 3 ppg in the NBA, maybe. Clearly he's worth a current All-Star. And I on Crittendon's potential. Give me a ing break. This trade was the best Memphis could get? Nope.

Lakers fans are morons.

Other than the Jerry West ties to L.A., which IMO clearly had much to do with this trade; is the fact that according to Memphis and L.A. no other teams were contacted about making this deal for Gasol?

Can that be right? Don't you think other teams would have offered more to Memphis for Gasol? I do.

The trade smacks of a behind the back, back alley deal that the league clearly endorses. After all who is a bigger TV market Memphis or L.A. ? hmmm that's a close one.

What's next, Dallas trading Dirk to Phoenix for D.J. Strawberry, Alondo Tucker and a bag of magic beans so Dirk can again play with his best friend Nash and hopefully get a ring?

Hey the Mavs gets 2 rookies that they so desperately need and some beans!!! seems fair.

[turiaf for president]

Name another trade that was anywhere -- anywhere -- close to this one. There are none. And the Grizzlies had no real valid reasons to make the trade. That's why -- surprise, surprise -- so many league observers were shocked by it. This kind of trade -- All-Star for absolutely nothing, not even decent players like Hornacek and Jeff Malone -- never happens. It absolutely never happens.

Wilt Chamberlain for Darrall Imhoff, Jerry Chambers, and Archie Clark.

Kareem Abdul Jabbar for Elmore Smith, Brian Winters, Junior Bridgeman, and Dave Meyers.

Artis Gilmore for Dave Corzine and Mark Olberding.


Lopsided trades for big men happen sometimes. Why is it necessary to about it just because it made another team better?

Should non Spurs fans about David Robinson getting hurt in the 1996-97 season and the Spurs tanking to get the best chance at Tim Duncan? Should the Spurs feel guilty about getting Duncan when they already had David Robinson?

, if a team can be lucky enough to make a great deal or lucky enough to get a HOF caliber center when they already have an a HOF caliber center on the roster, there is nothing to feel guilty about nor ashamed of.

The Gasol trade was lopsided, highway robbery. I don't see the point of trying to make Lakers fans feel guilty about it. If it happened to your favorite team, you'd be happy about it too.

nets got carter for draft picks and an old mourning

barkley went to the suns for hornicek

bulls got the draft rights to pippen for polynice

[Mr. Body]

oh please - the whole world knows the spurs tanked to get duncan - are you kidding? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv24frDECA4


Chicago didn't have the expiring contract to give the grizzlies what they wanted. But who cares? Your team is getting old,a nd will be dominated by the lakers for years to come. enjoy it.

The Spurs tanking is week-old fish. No one buys it.

The Lakers will get redemption for collusion and karma. Bynum will never be the same again and Gasol and Odom will never get over the wimp factor. They sold off all their picks and a chunk of their developing players. Kobe's black soul will haunt him forever. After he retires he'll find there is nothing else for him in life - no one likes him, he cannot relate even to his wife and children, rape is still illegal - and he'll finally take a shotgun to the mouth by the end of the next decade. Sad, really.

[thispego]

no we ed the grizzles but ure the one ing about it. dont hate cuz u didnt get him for next to nothing. trades like this happen all the time as i pointed out before.

build le contenders the conventional way? tell me oh great one what way is that? making trades that DONT improve your team?

yeah trades this lopsided happen every other day or so...

conventional way is not cheating a taking shortcuts like the Gasol for Peanuts trade

[turiaf for president]

^ do u not read?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...&postcount=168

quit crying

[LakerRings]

The Spurs tanking is week-old fish. No one buys it.

The Lakers will get redemption for collusion and karma. Bynum will never be the same again and Gasol and Odom will never get over the wimp factor. They sold off all their picks and a chunk of their developing players. Kobe's black soul will haunt him forever. After he retires he'll find there is nothing else for him in life - no one likes him, he cannot relate even to his wife and children, rape is still illegal - and he'll finally take a shotgun to the mouth by the end of the next decade. Sad, really.

lmao. week old fish indeed. Well, enjoy your sushi.

[Steez]

Who cares what NBA teams do?
We have no control over that... We can only go for what we have.

Lakers got Gasol for cheap, exp. contract, picks, young prospects etc.... it may be a steal, and other teams may have offered better trades -- doesn't change the fact that Gasol is a Laker. If you want to put an * on their championship run, so be it. It won't change the fact that if they win, they will be called champions.

I dont know why Lakers fans here are being so uptight about another teams fan saying you stole this player, who cares?

[JamStone]

The Spurs tanking is week-old fish. No one buys it.

The Lakers will get redemption for collusion and karma. Bynum will never be the same again and Gasol and Odom will never get over the wimp factor. They sold off all their picks and a chunk of their developing players. Kobe's black soul will haunt him forever. After he retires he'll find there is nothing else for him in life - no one likes him, he cannot relate even to his wife and children, rape is still illegal - and he'll finally take a shotgun to the mouth by the end of the next decade. Sad, really.

Wow. Take the NBA way too seriously do you?

[Mr. Body]

lmao. week old fish indeed. Well, enjoy your sushi.

hurr

I can't wait until these Lakers bandwagoners go back into their hovels.

[Mr. Body]

Wow. Take the NBA way too seriously do you?

No. But Kobe is a wretched person, as is Phil. I have no respect for them as human beings, despite their talent. They're emblematic of what is wasteful, self-centered, and unproductive in our society. It took only a second to envision the lives before them.