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    Jesse Ventura to Speak for Two Hours on 9/11

    This will be Jesse's longest interview yet on 9/11.

    Also expect discussion of Jesse's views on Libertarian philosophy, the Libertarian Party, Bob Barr, Ron Paul, and the U.S. Imperial Wars of aggression in the Middle East.

    Wednesday, May 28, 4PM to 6PM central

    Listen Live on Network 4: http://www.gcnlive.com/Listen_Live.html

    Call In Number: 1-866-582-9933

    Program Archived for 24 hours: http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/Dyna...On_Demand.html

    If you have any questions you would like to have the host ask Jesse, please post something in the comments.

    Link to announcement:

    28 May 2008
    Interview: Gov. Jesse Ventura will be the guest of Jim Fetzer on
    "The Dynamic Duo"
    4-6 PM/CT on GCN: http://www.gcnlive.com/
    http://www.911scholars.org/index.php...d=74&Itemid=53

    Also, note that Dr. Stephen Jones, member of Libertarians for Justice, will be on a similar program tonight (Tuesday):

    27 May 2008
    Interview: Rob Balsamo, first hour; and Steven Jones, second,
    will be the guests of Kevin Barrett on "9/11 and American Empire"
    8-10 PM/CT on WTPN: http://wtprn.com
    http://www.911scholars.org/index.php...d=74&Itemid=53

    Libertarians for Justice
    http://www.libertariansforjustice.org/

    Barrett for Congress
    http://www.barrettforcongress.us/
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    What does he think really happened on 9/11?

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    What does he think really happened on 9/11?
    You'll have to tune in. Or call in. Is that the question you want asked?

    Knew ChumpDumper would be the first to chime in here.

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    You'll have to tune in. Or call in. Is that the question you want asked?

    Knew ChumpDumper would be the first to chime in here.
    it's the only relevant question that remains unanswered regarding these types of threads.

    why not give us a release date on your answer? turn it into an extravaganza! give us something to keep us on the edge of our seat.

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    You'll have to tune in. Or call in. Is that the question you want asked?
    It's the one that is never answered.

    Knew ChumpDumper would be the first to chime in here.
    At least you made a half-assed attempt to say what you think happened on 9/11. Most of the truthers use no ass at all.

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    It's the one that is never answered.

    At least you made a half-assed attempt to say what you think happened on 9/11. Most of the truthers use no ass at all.
    Little do you know, but I am secretly pulling the strings behind the 9/11 Truth movement.

    I use Spurstalk.com to experiment with new ideas, as Spurs fans are used to media bias.

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    Jesse has an open mind and knows BS when he smells it.

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    Little do you know, but I am secretly pulling the strings behind the 9/11 Truth movement.
    Little do you know, but I am secretly working for the overlords of the New World Order.

    I use Spurstalk.com to experiment with new ideas, as Spurs fans are used to media bias.
    I use SpursTalk to keep tabs on people and track them if they get too close to the real truth.

    Fortunately no one has, so I can just hang out in the basketball forums.

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    Jesse has an open mind and knows BS when he smells it.
    David, is that you?

    We met last summer.

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    It's the one that is never answered.

    At least you made a half-assed attempt to say what you think happened on 9/11. Most of the truthers use no ass at all.
    Here's the best analysis of what REALLY happened:

    Attack Scenario 404 *
    How the Attack Might Have Been Engineered (But Probably Wasn't)
    http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/a...enario404.html

    Is This What Happened on 9/11?
    by GeorgeWashington
    http://www.911blogger.com/node/14740#comment-181763

    Was 10:45 a.m. the Originally Planned Demolition Time of WTC 7?
    by shoestring
    http://www.911blogger.com/node/15318
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    I ask for one story and I get five.

    What do you think really happened on 9/11?

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    I ask for one story and I get five.

    What do you think really happened on 9/11?
    The CIA set up the hijackings with some combination of special agents and patsies, and the real hijackers had guns. The 19 people identified as the 19 hijackers are not the hijackers, although there may be some overlap. The planes were remote controlled into the buildings, except FL93 which was shot down before it could get to WTC 7.

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    The CIA set up the hijackings with some combination of special agents and patsies, and the real hijackers had guns. The 19 people identified as the 19 hijackers are not the hijackers, although there may be some overlap. The planes were remote controlled into the buildings, except FL93 which was shot down before it could get to WTC 7.
    What is your evidence of this?

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    What is your evidence of this?
    the five articles, all written by experts.

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    The CIA set up the hijackings with some combination of special agents and patsies, and the real hijackers had guns. The 19 people identified as the 19 hijackers are not the hijackers, although there may be some overlap. The planes were remote controlled into the buildings, except FL93 which was shot down before it could get to WTC 7.
    i like it!

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    The 19 people identified as the 19 hijackers are not the hijackers, although there may be some overlap.
    so the 19 were just as surprised as the passengers?
    The planes were remote controlled into the buildings, except FL93 which was shot down before it could get to WTC 7.
    who needs hijackers if the planes are remote controlled?

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    the five articles, all written by experts.
    Let's see....

    The first "article" has no listed author.

    The second uses the screen name of "GeorgeWashington" with no other information given.

    The third and fifth are written by "andrewkornkven" which may or may not be a real name. Maybe he is an air traffic controller from Minnesota, but his self-written bio for his screen name is quite telling:

    I am an American citizen. My research into 9/11 and other events such as the assassination of JFK, the 1967 attack on the USS Liberty, and the "Holocaust" phenomenon, has led me to conclude that 9/11 was perpetrated by Israel and its Zionist supporters in the US.

    He blames the jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos.

    Do you?

    The fourth is another no info screen name: "shoestring."






    So you need to answer this question: Have you reached the same conclusion as your expert "andrewkornkven"? Do you believe "/11 was perpetrated by Israel and its Zionist supporters in the US"?

    Yes or no.

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    so the 19 were just as surprised as the passengers?

    who needs hijackers if the planes are remote controlled?
    note - there were definetely hijackers, as passengers called and reported them. They also reported that the hijachers had guns, which explains how they took over the pits.

    A friend of mine who is an Air Traffic controlled says the hijackers could easily installed the remore control device into the control panel, then parachuted out of the plane below without being seen by the passengers.

    He says it would safer in a special operation to install the remote control technology after the operation started, rather than try to install it in the plane before it took off, as the pilots might notice it, or if something when wrong and the operation had to be delayed.

    He also says this explains the rather odd way the planes lost contact with ATC, then the transformers were turned off, and then the planes turned back.

    The hijackers may also have been part of a war games or told they were part of a war games.

    It should also be known that the reported time of the hijacking by Amy Sweeney on FL11 is way off the official time, so it may be likely that hijackers went into the pit and shot the pilots, then later, other hiajckers dressed up like Arabs created a commotion and tried to hide their guns.

    It is also possible that the "two hijackings theory" involved special agents (who took over the pits) and paid patsies who died.

    It should also be noted that most of the passengers gave the "wrong" number of hijackers, Mark Bingham on FL93 said 3 hijackers (not 4), Sweeney & Ong on FL11 both said 4 hijackers (not 5, and both gave the "wrong" seat numbers), and Renee May on FL77 siad 6 hijackers (not 5).

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    Either the conspiracy theorists are right about a massive organized evil conspiracy, or they are wrong.

    If they are right about 9-11 being planned by an evil government conspiracy willing and capable of killing thousand of their own citizens, they would be just as motivated to keep that fact a secret.

    An easy method of doing this is to do a disinformation campaign. All it takes is one or two paid evil guys willing to lie, a computer and some time.

    The best way to do such a disinformation campaign is, as the conspiracy theorists themselves point out in my previous post is as follows:
    1. Think of the stupidest possible
    2. Present it in such a blatantly false and easily debunked manner that anybody with any common sense at all would recognize it immediately as stupid bull
    3. This would then lead normal pepole to then associate all the real conspiracy evidence with this obvious quackery to discredit the whole movement to expose the grand evil conspiracy

    IF there is a grand evil conspiracy, THEN at least SOME of the conspiracy "evidence" has been manufactured to be obviously stupid to put people off the trail.

    THEREFORE:
    IF the evil conpiracy exists AND you say you believe all of the conspiracy "evidence/theories" you MUST either:

    1) Be one of those paid disinformation agents, and be lying and evil

    or

    2) Be too stupid to not recognize the obviously fake stuff that has been planted by the paid disinformation agents.


    There are no other possibilities.

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    note - there were definetely hijackers, as passengers called and reported them. They also reported that the hijachers had guns, which explains how they took over the pits.

    A friend of mine who is an Air Traffic controlled says the hijackers could easily installed the remore control device into the control panel, then parachuted out of the plane below without being seen by the passengers.

    He says it would safer in a special operation to install the remote control technology after the operation started, rather than try to install it in the plane before it took off, as the pilots might notice it, or if something when wrong and the operation had to be delayed.

    He also says this explains the rather odd way the planes lost contact with ATC, then the transformers were turned off, and then the planes turned back.

    The hijackers may also have been part of a war games or told they were part of a war games.

    It should also be known that the reported time of the hijacking by Amy Sweeney on FL11 is way off the official time, so it may be likely that hijackers went into the pit and shot the pilots, then later, other hiajckers dressed up like Arabs created a commotion and tried to hide their guns.

    It is also possible that the "two hijackings theory" involved special agents (who took over the pits) and paid patsies who died.

    It should also be noted that most of the passengers gave the "wrong" number of hijackers, Mark Bingham on FL93 said 3 hijackers (not 4), Sweeney & Ong on FL11 both said 4 hijackers (not 5, and both gave the "wrong" seat numbers), and Renee May on FL77 siad 6 hijackers (not 5).
    But that story directly conflicts with the first "expert" article you posted.

    The use of AAL Flight 11 and UAL Flight 175 to attack the Twin Towers, and of AAL Flight 77 to attack the Pentagon requires the execution of two main tasks in each case:

    1. Rendering unconscious the flight crew and passengers, preventing any communications from them about events in the cabin.
    2. Taking over the flight computers, allowing the planes to be auto-piloted to their targets.

    Task 1 is achieved with aerosol bombs of decapacitating gas hidden in luggage. The gas is fentanyl, the extremely potent opiate used by Russian forces to end the hostage crisis in the theater in Chechnya. The bombs detonate when the barometric trigger senses a cabin pressure corresponding to an al ude of 28,000 feet. The fentanyl gas diffuses throughout the cabin and is absorbed so rapidly by the victims that they cannot even pick up a cell phone or handset to initiate a call.

    Task 2 is accomplished with an autopilot program in an upgrade package, disguised as a high-al ude stall-recovery program. The instrument-triggered program is started by the flight computer when the plane passes through 30,000 feet and proceeds to fly the aircraft into its target with down-to-the-meter accuracy.
    Which story do you actually believe?

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    note - there were definetely hijackers, as passengers called and reported them. They also reported that the hijachers had guns, which explains how they took over the pits.

    A friend of mine who is an Air Traffic controlled says the hijackers could easily installed the remore control device into the control panel, then parachuted out of the plane below without being seen by the passengers.

    He says it would safer in a special operation to install the remote control technology after the operation started, rather than try to install it in the plane before it took off, as the pilots might notice it, or if something when wrong and the operation had to be delayed.

    He also says this explains the rather odd way the planes lost contact with ATC, then the transformers were turned off, and then the planes turned back.

    The hijackers may also have been part of a war games or told they were part of a war games.

    It should also be known that the reported time of the hijacking by Amy Sweeney on FL11 is way off the official time, so it may be likely that hijackers went into the pit and shot the pilots, then later, other hiajckers dressed up like Arabs created a commotion and tried to hide their guns.

    It is also possible that the "two hijackings theory" involved special agents (who took over the pits) and paid patsies who died.

    It should also be noted that most of the passengers gave the "wrong" number of hijackers, Mark Bingham on FL93 said 3 hijackers (not 4), Sweeney & Ong on FL11 both said 4 hijackers (not 5, and both gave the "wrong" seat numbers), and Renee May on FL77 siad 6 hijackers (not 5).
    doesn't that make you fill a little silly? read what you wrote, again.

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    And if the there is no grand evil conspiracy, and you believe in all of the conspiracy "evidence", you can't be evil.

    BUT

    You can be stupid.

    Therefore, if you believe in all the conspiracy "evidence" whether or not the evil conspiracy exists, you are EITHER:

    1) Lying and evil.

    or

    2) Too stupid to see that the "evidence" supporting grand evil conspiracies is ed.

    Since "Galileo" obviously believes in all the conspiracy "evidence" he must be either one of those disinformation agents or stupid.

    The only way to disprove this is for Galileo to rule out some of the "conspiracy" evidence as being obviously false, which he has not done to my knowledge.

    You make the call:

    Lying and evil, or just stupid.

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    Let's see....

    The first "article" has no listed author.

    The second uses the screen name of "GeorgeWashington" with no other information given.

    The third and fifth are written by "andrewkornkven" which may or may not be a real name. Maybe he is an air traffic controller from Minnesota, but his self-written bio for his screen name is quite telling:

    I am an American citizen. My research into 9/11 and other events such as the assassination of JFK, the 1967 attack on the USS Liberty, and the "Holocaust" phenomenon, has led me to conclude that 9/11 was perpetrated by Israel and its Zionist supporters in the US.

    He blames the jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos.

    Do you?

    The fourth is another no info screen name: "shoestring."






    So you need to answer this question: Have you reached the same conclusion as your expert "andrewkornkven"? Do you believe "/11 was perpetrated by Israel and its Zionist supporters in the US"?

    Yes or no.
    I didn't know he said that.

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    I didn't know he said that.
    It's right there in his profile.

    http://www.911blogger.com/user/253

    See what just a little research can turn up?

    Now tell me -- do you share his belief "that 9/11 was perpetrated by Israel and its Zionist supporters in the US"?

    Yes or no.

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