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Emmanuel Ginobili is a ing warrior. End of discussion.
Actually Pop always made an effort to play him under 30 mins...
I personally think it's re ed. Manu needed to learn how to pace himself, and not playing long minutes won't help that at all.
And the whole playing less to be more fresh in the playoffs charade is stupid, since you get a bad ankle or groin, and it all goes to waste.
Emmanuel Ginobili is a ing warrior. End of discussion.
Manu ALWAYS admits when he's hurt. He talks about every bump, bruise and contusion. This series he said he didn't feel great in game 1. But he said he felt better than he has in a long time heading into game 2. He said that game 2 was just a horrible night for him and he couldn't shake it. Game 3, he was awesome and now tonight, he struggled again. Manu is always honest about his injuries. He never uses it as an excuse, but he's always honest about it. After game 2, I said that he'd probably explode in game 3 because he said he wasn't hurting in game 2. He did.
You can think about it however you want, but I know that he was hurting a lot more earlier in the playoff than he is now (unless he re-aggravated something tonight).
there is no doubt about that
he might be but he was passive tonight
1-3 sucks, but this series still hasn't reached the "was" stage yet.
Manu was passive, but the Lakers did a good job of giving him no open looks.
Manu may feel "better" but he's obviously missing his first step, which he still admitted to not being back from two months ago.
We were 3 points away from a win with a lacking Manu, if anyone's to blame it's Finley and the other guys not stepping up to repay Manu for carrying Tim and Tony's loadsd in the regular season.
Finley has been a bum, and Udoka disappeared. Barry's the only one from the group who put them to shame.
No question. The whole 4th quarter I believed he was going to take over any second because he's got the greatest will to win of anyone.
In the Hornet series he had time to recover no time to rest now its go out and play!
it pains me as a laker fan to see Ginobli playing like this. He's one of my favorites.
GINOBLI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The thing is that Manu never complains about his injuries. So why would he admit to his ankle really bothering him all of a sudden?
If you listen to Pop's post game interview after game three, even Pop talks about "regardless of everything he's going through, he's a warrior" or something to that effect, meaning even Pop makes a hint at his injuries. Even more so, he told the media to specifically not ask Manu about his injuries.
Yes, Manu has his issues. But I don't believe for one second that he's playing this horribly just because. It's that ankle. He had an MRI done on it. Why? If he feels fine, why would he check it out? Why did Pop think about sitting him out in game two, according to the news people?
It's one thing to say, "just play through it, don't be a sissy." It's another thing when a guy is seriously in pain. With his killer instinct, I don't think he'd just give up if he's healthy or is feeling fine. His ankle must REALLY be bothering him. He has no lift. The only reason he played good in the game three is due to his 3 point shooting. He made his 3 pointers.
I just think it's unfair to minimize his physical state just out of the fear of looking weak. He might have the heart of a warrior, but if his ankle is seriously giving him pain. Even he cannot do anything about it.
I mean, you make it sound like just because he says that he is fine, that he is fine. Has he ever complained? He's not going to start saying "My ankle really hurts. I'm in huge pain..." That will make him look weak.
Either way, it's a hard series to watch. And again, if the Spurs lose, all the fans are going to put all the blame on Manu yet again. And according to some fans, it will be the third time that Manu prevents the Spurs from repeating.
Next game Manu starts and finley sits entire game and Barry backs up both Tony and Manu
LMAO!! IF Bynum were healthy you'd have been SWEPT!! Be thankful........be very, very thankful.I'm not going to trash him because i know he is hurt but this is so hard to accept. If Manu was just healthy, we beat this team, there is no doubt of that in my mind. 20 pt lead in game 1 when he was awful. Win huge in the one game he is great. Had a million chances to win this game tonight with him doing nothing at all out there. Kobe can do his thing but if Manu is Manu we would have buried this ing team in 6 games
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Lakers in 5!
I guess you didn't read anything else I posted. Manu ALWAYS talks about his injuries. HE ALWAYS says when he's hurting. He doesn't use it as an excuse but he ALWAYS is honest about it. Even before Game 1 he was saying how bad his ankle was hurting him. I didn't say there was nothing wrong with him. Obviously he's not 100 percent. I said that he says, Pop says and everyone else in the Spurs organization says that he was hurting alot more in the other series than he was in Game 2 and 3 of this series. I don't know about tonight .. he might have tweaked something again.
I 100% agree just look at his series. Who the is there on the Lakers that should be shutting him down like this?? He has not been just OK, he has been flat out terrible. He has no lift on most of his shots, he has almost never tried to get in the lane. He is hurt, he was terrible because he is hurt, period. You can only play at a high level through so much.
I don't know what is wrong with Manu and I don't really care about that. Only the result is important and the result is Manu was mostly horrible in this series.
And while it's a big reason why Spurs are down 3-1, it's not the only one. Some role players are playing like and Parker is less than stellar in this series.
Injuries are a part of the game. I've always felt that we would only go as far as Manu would take us. You know Tim will be there but Manu's been our leading scorer all season. It's hard to get 23 points from other guys like Brent did tonight.
If Manu scores 10 pts, we win.
All right, you say he's healthy or close too. If he's going to be inconsistent enough to lay 3 eggs in 4 WCF games, is it time to trade his ass? Seriously, he's had his ups and downs in playoff series's before, but this has been atrocious. Asssuming this series is over, as a journalist, this is something you should chase. If it wasn't a medical issue, it looks a lot like Manu has lost his Huevos, and then he should be moved, while he still has value.
No, I don't say he's healthy or close to healthy. I say that he's healthier than he was earlier in the playoffs. And I say that HE says that he's feeling much better than he has in weeks. And I say that he's playing poorly because he's in a funk AND he's banged up.
And I would never trade Manu. That's crazy.
Come on, do you really think Manu is going to make injuries an excuse. For someone who rushed to defend Tony with his Ankle injury you sure are blind to manu's lack of quickness and ability to drive and jump.
Eh, parker had 21 and 8 tonight.
Can't totally fault him either. Yeah he missed some shots, but he got the shot that cut it to 2.
You aren't reading what I'm writing at all.
I am saying he NEVER uses it as an excuse. But that he ALWAYS talks about it when asked. When asked before Game 1, he went on and on about how bad his ankle was hurting him. When asked about it after Game 2, he said that he actually was much much much improved over Game 1 health-wise. He repeated that 5 times in one interview. He said that he hadn't felt this good since the regular season.
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