What does "guaranteed" and "long term" mean to you?
With a guarantee of maybe 2 years. We'll see how little Scola is paid on his next contract with the Rockets holding his full Bird Rights.
Funny, he never had such an opportunity in the vaunted Spanish League.He will never make such contract in NBA but he is get big shoe contract from Rockets because owner there is part of Chinese shoe company.
Ahh but we digress
Bonner's 5 million could have gotten Scola
Scola signs with Rocket for 5 million
Rocket Send Spanoulis to Spurs and then quits
Spurs bank on Tiago Splitter coming over to play along side Tim Duncan and taking the salary that would have been Scola's.
Splitter decides to stay home meaning really this time. Spurs give the Rockets Scola for Zero.
Does that about sum it up?
Because when they sign contract NBA pay MORE and Euroleague was much weaker than NBA and NBA had good image.
You must live in world view not Texas view some here sounds just like Rockets fans nothing but ignorant. Let me helps you. You can ask almost any person of Europe who is Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and they will explain who they are.
Ask any person on street in Europe who is Dirk or who is Manu and they will have no idea and they will probable not know Kobe or Lebron either. But according to US fans NBA is only thing in world of basketball. This is live in past.
Ask European on street who is Papaloukas and they will know him.
Also like with Spanouli all of Houston fans says how good Houston were they actual believe can compare to Athens. Athens way of life is even superior in Mediterranean and these fans of Houston really believe such nonsense.
He give up not only money and family but also much better way of life and climate for "dream" to plays in NBA. And look what happen. And understand he is idolize the players like Jordan from this 90s era of NBA. In today NBA games is hardly even get notice on TV here but in those days was very popular.
In Greece we watch Lakers Celtics of 80s like we watch Galis. But today even basketball fans in Greece not even give damn about NBA just few like me. Maybe this help you live in bigger world to understand how Tiago maybe view things because he is not live in same box you do.
When Will The Spurs Learn Their ing Lesson?!?!?!?
It would be a shame if Splitter wouldn't join the Spurs next year, i think he would really fit in well. But i don't think this should come as too big of a surprise, he did pull out of the draft a couple of times, even when he was considered a "top 5" pick. So he's probablly not so hot on NBA. Perhaps he just used the Spurs to leverage a better contract with Tau.
People who think he will be willing to sign after two years are deluding themselfs. He's worth more than rookie paycheck now, he will be worth more than it in two year's time. And if he's not, you don't want him anyway.
Yes in Greece it was report that Spanoulis trade will not happen without this. Rockets will not complete trade of him unless they knows Scola will sign because he must get more than MLE and with shoe contract this happen and Rockets can only pay him in the $3 millions.Those Chinese shoe contracts give the Rockets an adavantage over every other team in the NBA
You don't get much out of Greece, do you?
Corrections in bold.
So ignorant Greeks don't keep up with the rest of the world. Duly noted.
V-span To The Spurs!!!!! Book It!
Exactly.
Plus, If he comes now I think he would have a great shot at taking the starting role from Oberto/Thomas by mid-season. At the very least, he would probably get solid minutes early on. The longer he waits the greater the chance a more polished Mahinmi (or some other player) will end up taking his playing time.
If Papaloukas comes over next year, how much do you think he will command? Only the MLE? Because if he gets the MLE he should be ok. However if he thinks he is worth much more than this, and the NBA does not match his true worth, what reason is there for him to come over?
I try explain to you and you live in past still. First these contracts from big clubs is guarantee. You are talk crazy thing if believe TAU will not pay Splitter. This is not some division 2 team in Greece. Big clubs pay players plus give them other things. When do Spurs give free sports car, free yacth and free Mediterranean villa to best players of team like PAO and Olympiacos do?
Spanoulis get these from PAO and they also pay tax on these. When he with Rockets he have to buy own car and he have apartment.
And I already try explain you on NBA image and you refuse listen. In time of Bird and Magic and Jordan NBA image, name, fame and all this is what you claim in Europe. Is NOT now. Few people here give damn about NBA. Is not popular these days even in least bit. You seem not able grasp such concept?
Think from Tiago view not your view. Is this so hard? Main reason for good player come to NBA is for play in best league. And this is still true NBA is best league. But I also try explain you this is also become less reasons for players. Because as I try say like example when Manu come NBA Euroleague is like 50% level of NBA but now days is more like 80% or maybe even 85%.
So incentive to join for play in best league is even get less each year. Like I try explain players like Navarro, Papaloukas, Scola, Siskauaskas they want play NBA because they want prove something that they can play there. This is about only reason now for players to want play NBA if they are best of Europe. But then NBA have at ude and so do fans that it is joke they expect even average contract. Because of this hard even get player like Papaloukas.
You can believe nonsense all you want but this is true. Player not play NBA because "they suck" this is typical US basketball fan opinion. Real reason is they make much more money in Europe. Navarro is only one who was willing put money aside I think after what happen to players like Macijauskas and Spanoulis. But Navarro is even different because he just want to play with Gasol and Gasol have to demand Memphis sign him because they believe rookie minimum is "too much for him".
You will say dumb thing like "Navarro will now get big NBA contract and more than he can in Europe after take less for one year in NBA". This is nonsense. Navarro can get something like 3.5 million euro net salary in Europe. He will get no money like this in NBA.
Then in a couple years when him leaving for the NBA is not as much of a threat he'll get less from Tau without much in the way of guaranteed years.
It sounds like he's considering playing one more season for Tau at an inflated salary and then joining the Spurs next season.
Oh well, doesn't matter to me. I hope Morey is smart enough not to listen to their own cement headed fans and sign Papaloukas.
Ok i officially want Spanoulis at the Spurs.
I dont give a if he doesnt cut it... at least were gonna have someone under 35 on the ing team.
Hes only 25... we should sign him to back up TP.... i dont even wanna see Jaque Vaughan on the court in an important game again.... ever... hes a practice player... a regular season scrub... the Spurs cant seriously contend with that dude as the back up point guard..
We could pair him in the backcourt with TP to and allow Manu to play less minutes...
They should ocncentrate their efforts on him..
Kill Bill what are the chances of Spanoulis coming over next year? What do the Spurs have to do?
Im a lot less informred on him than i am on Tiago... but as of now... Tiago.
One small thing... he has a buy out after next season of just 500K.... maybe the Spurs want him to develop some more and they came to some sort of agreement in terms of money to make up for the rookie scale..
I think theres a high chance he only stays in Europe for one season rather than two...
But then again.... Tiago
How many 6 and 7 year long guaranteed contracts are being signed in the Spanish League? At most Tau is offering a 2 year deal, trying to capitalize on the rookie scale that Splitter would face if he signed with the Spurs. But the payoff long term is in the NBA.
And again, what NBA stars or even moderately good players are opting to play in Europe?
He is more know in Europe than Spurs players is. As I say it seem NBA fans is live in 1990s not now. I am try explain simple things here why player like Tiago will do what he do. 10 years ago he would have join Spurs and not even be issue. Things are different now.
This remind me of same exact way Americans talk about Team USA like it is same as 1996 and US team in truth is just one of better teams now nothing more.
Honest truth is Euroleague is only 2nd to NBA because they have verry bad management and promotion and must compete with soccer which is much harder than compete with football or baseball in US.
If Euroleague had commissioner like Stern it would probably overtake NBA.
rofl.
Probably true for Jordan... not too sure for Bird and Magic
TrueAsk any person on street in Europe who is Dirk or who is Manu and they will have no idea and they will probable not know Kobe or Lebron either
Probably true in Greece... but absolutly not in France.Ask European on street who is Papaloukas and they will know him.
Actually in France people know who is Parker (mostly because his wife is famous) and maybe who are Diaw, Shaq... maybe Kobe or Iverson... and a bunch of superstar (no Duncan here sorry). Nobody know who are Papaloukas, Sarunas... and the other Euroleague stars.
Some may remember about Daccoury, Bilba or Rigaudeau... (old french stars) and that's all.
But to be fair, basketball is a minor sport in France and the "Pro A" is a weak league, so the situation can't be compared with Greece, Spain or Russia.
The old USA Dream Team with Shaq, Jordan, Bird, Magic, would have destroyed any team today anywhere in the world.
You is stupid person nothing more. NBA is barely even notice in Europe. I not just talk about Greece. I have family in several country and same thing there. In Lithuania or Spain NBA have maybe a little bit of viewers. Just little bit. In other countries no one care at all.
Compare to how popular NBA was in Europe in 80s or 90s is like big joke. You are just stupid fool if you believe otherwise.
The quality of NBA players today isn't like it was in the Jordan era.
It shows you how great the almight D-League is when Mahinmi couldnt get on the court in the French league yet he averages 20 and 10 here.
He has potential.. but hes years away.
Tiago was our man.
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