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    So being Greek and playing for the Greek national team has no effect at all on his comfort level in signing with a Greek team instead of staying in the US?

    Of course it does.

    This guy is the exception.
    No. You is make up own facts. PAO will sign any college player of US to such contract if it believe it want such player. Koufos be offer contract have nothing to do with him want play there. You is confuse. He not even want play there. He want play NBA.

    You believe this only college player have been offer contract by big European clubs? Even Kobe before NBA was offer contract by some Italy clubs.

    I think you get some thing confuse here. reason US young players have not go to Europe is because they are American and rather stay in US. Simple thing.
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    No. You is make up own facts. PAO will sign any college player of US to such contract if it believe it want such player. Koufos be offer contract have nothing to do with him want play there. You is confuse. He not even want play there. He want play NBA.

    You believe this only college player have been offer contract by big European clubs? Even Kobe before NBA was offer contract by some Italy clubs.
    Right. And Kobe took less to stay in the states.

    Thanks for agreeing with me.
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    im really surprised at this
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    Yup.

    If you look back I've said that Tiago Splitter is the medicine to what ails this team next year. Hes the offensive low post presence you can go through when Dncna is on the bench, and hes a good defensive big man rebounder that can play next to him. Hes someone that can stay with a Dirk Nowtizki or better yet an improving David West.


    If the Spurs could've incorporated a Tiago Ian Mahinmi bigman rotation along with Bonner, Oberto and or Kurt Thomas would've been awesome.
    Someone tell Pop to get down there, get this guy drunk off his ass, won't be hard for him with that whine collection and get this guy signed. Tear up that deal CIA POP style, losing this guy is a nightmare.
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    Right. And Kobe took less to stay in the states.

    Thanks for agreeing with me.
    You is not understand issue is all I can say. You are very confuse.

    You say in one issue no such college player come as rookie to NBA will get such money offer in Europe. I explain this is wrong. Then you says it is only because of heritage which I also have explain was wrong.

    Then you not understand with Kobe he get more money in NBA than he would have in Italy at that time. Maybe you should try read more careful it is hard because I am still working on my English.
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    You is not understand issue is all I can say. You are very confuse.

    You say in one issue no such college player come as rookie to NBA will get such money offer in Europe. I explain this is wrong. Then you says it is only because of heritage which I also have explain was wrong.

    Then you not understand with Kobe he get more money in NBA than he would have in Italy at that time. Maybe you should try read more careful it is hard because I am still working on my English.
    How much was he offered by the Italian team?

    And can you think of any reason an Italian team might think Kobe would sign with them as opposed to most other US players?
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    Someone tell Pop to get down there, get this guy drunk off his ass, won't be hard for him with that whine collection and get this guy signed. Tear up that deal CIA POP style, losing this guy is a nightmare.
    Pop is a little busy.

    Although if the Spurs lose tonight, it wouldn't suprise me if he took a flight to Spain direct from LA.

    He did it for Stoudamire.
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    Theres a few things Spurs fans just won't admit in this thread.

    1) The Euroleagues are getting much better by the year. While the NBA is still better, that doesn't mean these leagues are horrible to play for. I'm sure there are a ton of NBA players here who wouldn't play in those leagues. Believe it or not, they are getting much better.

    2) The pay is getting damn near equal for a lot of those big names. They get paid in Euros and they get paid amounts AFTER taxes. They get all kinds of stipons for living expenses. You can't underestimate the value of being paid in Euros right now. The dollar is weak and getting weaker.

    3) Home is home. I shouldn't even have to explain this.
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    How much was he offered by the Italian team?
    I do not remember but I think 2 Italian teams offer him like million per year in US money back then. But that is in old days when NBA is pay more. In that time Greek league is only one where he could get huge contract. But big Greek clubs then would never sign high school player they would sign Dominique or Byron Scott or David Rivers, Walter Berry older veterans of NBA to such contracts.

    Dominique have contract so huge for that day hard to believe really. But in Italy would not get such deals.
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    I do not remember but I think 2 Italian teams offer him like million per year in US money back then.
    That is more than he made in the NBA his rookie year.
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    Theres a few things Spurs fans just won't admit in this thread.

    1) The Euroleagues are getting much better by the year. While the NBA is still better, that doesn't mean these leagues are horrible to play for. I'm sure there are a ton of NBA players here who wouldn't play in those leagues. Believe it or not, they are getting much better.

    2) The pay is getting damn near equal for a lot of those big names. They get paid in Euros and they get paid amounts AFTER taxes. They get all kinds of stipons for living expenses. You can't underestimate the value of being paid in Euros right now. The dollar is weak and getting weaker.

    3) Home is home. I shouldn't even have to explain this.
    Agreed with 1 and 2.

    3 would be correct if Splitter was from Spain.
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    How much was he offered by the Italian team?

    And can you think of any reason an Italian team might think Kobe would sign with them as opposed to most other US players?
    You are create own view. Is not because he live in Italy. Is because they able to scout him and see him more. Same with Koufos. He will never get any contract from PAO if he did not decide come play in Greece and managers were able scout him in person.

    If he was just works out in Ohio in summer instead no way can he get offer from PAO and Olympiacos. You make different rule it seem as compare American player. You expect NBA team to draft American player that team has NEVER been able scout in person?

    Or you expect NBA team to draft player is has been able scout many times and like what they see from player. Have nothing to do with last name of player. This sound almost racist way you believe.
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    Agreed with 1 and 2.

    3 would be correct if Splitter was from Spain.
    Its not just about Splitter but good point either way.
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    If he was just works out in Ohio in summer instead no way can he get offer from PAO and Olympiacos.
    Exactly.

    Or you expect NBA team to draft player is has been able scout many times and like what they see from player.
    Greek teams don't have scouts in the US? They must suck.
    Have nothing to do with last name of player. This sound almost racist way you believe.
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    Its not just about Splitter but good point either way.
    Don't get me wrong I agree with you.

    Same reason if the other way around a euro team drafted James Jones and he decided to stay with the Blazers because "its home"
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    That is more than he made in the NBA his rookie year.
    See you keep change argument. In Kobe case this not true. He WILL make more in NBA in year or two instead of go to Italy. Same argument be use for Splitter come to Spurs. But this is not true. Because this like live in past.

    Is not same as 10 years ago for Euroleague salary. This is point of issue and you seem not able understand this. My English is poor though.
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    See you keep change argument. In Kobe case this not true.
    It IS true. You said he couldn't make as much money in Italy, when in reality the Italian offer was more than what he did make in the NBA. Had Kobe not been traded to LA at the right time, it is entirely possible he could have played in Italy that season.
    Is not same as 10 years ago for Euroleague salary. This is point of issue and you seem not able understand this.
    I understand perfectly.

    There are many reasons a player will play in one country or another. Salary may be the biggest reason, but it isn't the only reason.
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    Do you have salary information for every player in every league in Europe?

    Please give me a link.
    ROFL. No kidding.

    The biggest contract I've seen quoted for an Euroleague player is 3 years and $12 mil or whatever. I've never seen one longer than 3 years, well, save for Scola's 10 year slave contract he was under from age 12 to 22.

    Where are the 5 year, $40 mil fully guaranteed contracts which are commonplace in the NBA?

    Yet somehow the NBA is in danger of being surpassed by the Spanish League because it doesn't offer its players an attractive opportunity.
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    ROFL. No kidding.

    The biggest contract I've seen quoted for an Euroleague player is 3 years and $12 mil or whatever. I've never seen one longer than 3 years, well, save for Scola's 10 year slave contract he was under from age 12 to 22.

    Where are the 5 year, $40 mil fully guaranteed contracts which are commonplace in the NBA?

    Yet somehow the NBA is in danger of being surpassed by the Spanish League because it doesn't offer its players an attractive opportunity.
    Kirilenko is offer 40 million euros NET for 5 years by CSKA last summer.

    Webber is offer 10 million euros for 2 years NET by Olympiacos last summer plus free yacht and villa.

    And you keep using NBA contract in money BEFORE taxes. Duncan does NOT make $20 million for example. he have to pay taxes on this. The contracts be talk about in this topic for Europe is NO TAXES.

    You realize Duncan need get only 6 million euros in Europe for same amount Spurs pays him? You actual believe such contracts be offer to players in level of Webber or Kirilenko that best NBA players can not get max contract?

    Kirilenko was offer same money Jazz is pay him now plus he was offer free house and car.
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    Screw that. Where are the 7 year, $120 million guaranteed contracts in the European Leagues? Surely the resident Greek can cite one.

    Come on, where's the link?
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    Kirilenko is offer 40 million euros NET for 5 years by CSKA last summer.

    Webber is offer 10 million euros for 2 years NET by Olympiacos last summer plus free yacht and villa.
    Blah blah blah. Where's the link?
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    Blah blah blah. Where's the link?
    I will not discuss with such ignorant person. Just same as Sam Fisher.
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    Stephon Marbury will be playing in Europe next year for big bucks.
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    I will not discuss with such ignorant person. Just same as Sam Fisher.
    ROFL. You've been exposed.
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    I will not discuss with such ignorant person. Just same as Sam Fisher.
    In other words.

    There is no link.
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