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and watch him sign with a Greek team.... No thanks.
man if kofus was still on the board i would take him over CDR....but i think we need someone who can create their own shot...or know down the three all day long....or another big
we cant afford to pick players and leave them overseas..we need some help right away
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and watch him sign with a Greek team.... No thanks.
spending a late first on a euro would be madness at this point.
the dollar is so worthless and the rookie scale contracts so low outside the top 10 or so it's a waste.
Spurs should try to move up and draft Batum. He is just a perfect fit for SA.
Agree on this one. And I believe Batum is far more ready that scouting reports suggest. Of course he would not be a go to guy right now but he could already be a contributor.
Agree. While Batum is still raw and needs to work on some aspect of his game, he plays a lot this year in professional leagues (French league and Euroleague).
He played at a better level than NCAA players.
The NBA has tampered with the worldwide market on basketball players by putting artificial limits on rookie contracts. This price-fixing was successful when there were no other leagues that could bid in compe ion with the NBA, but that obviously isn't true any more.
The market value price of talent has exceeded the existing rookie pay scale--and this is the predictable result.
So far, this price fixing has only worked in the Euros favor on bringing Euro players over here. Let's not forget that in addition to Splitter, Javtokas also took more money than the rookie scale to play in Europe. Money talks and bull walks.
But NBA price-fixing may now also work in the Euros favor by allowing them to sign American players out from under the noses of NBA teams.
As they strive to improve their teams, the next move by the Euro teams may be to outbid NBA teams for lower-ranked American rookies who are salary-limited by the pay scale.
Remember that the bottom 1/3 of 1st round draft picks NEVER play on an NBA team and there have been plenty of bust-outs who were drafted higher than that.
The Euros won't even want to bid for all of them, but any player down near the bottom of the first round would have to take a look at an offer significantly over the rookie pay scale if it was a take it now or leave it offer.
The NBA better wise up quickly that they are in a salary war with the Euros and rethink the salary cap strategy.
And the Spurs should rethink their strategy of drafting good Euros in the first round because they may not be willing to come over for the rookie scale any more.
Bruno, i think to move up and get Batum, we would have to go to 17, i dont see the Raptors passing on him, given their needs and their GM's ties to Europe. But they have expressed interest in trading the pick.
If he falls past the Raps at 17, i think we have a shot at him at 26.... i think you made a good list of the next 8 teams wings, and they are all pretty much set and i cant see them taking Batum.
The Raps will be the sticking point. Maybe we can send them Barry's expiring contract and our pick.
i dont mind picking Batum, but will he be able to at least be in the NBA right away?
I want to keep an eye on Mike Taylor for the last Spurs' pick. He's a balla.
I didn't know you can join the D-League, then join the draft.
if he wasn't drafted previously, or was waived, nobody owns his rights. but i wouldn't know.
Yep, he's the first example I can think of, but at least one more is currently in the pipeline -- Aleksandar Ugrinoski in Utah, but he's not going to enter this draft after being injured most of the season.
Under what conditions is it possible for a player to join the D-League, then the draft?
As far as I can tell, he just didn't declare for the draft when he left Iowa State. I think he was trying to get into a D2 school but it fell through.
I suppose as long as they are under the mandatory NBA draft age, any player over their minimum age can enter the D-League draft or available pool. That raises some questions about calling up those players. It's an interesting situation and something that could happen more in the coming years.
Apparently Taylor is doing ok in the draft camp:
Mike Taylor and George Hill didn't come to camp with the biggest reputations, though that appears to be changing pretty quickly. Taylor led all scorers in the day's opening game with 17 points on 6-for-10 shooting, while Hill added 14 points on 5-for-8 shooting.
Taylor actually played this season for the Idaho Stampede of the NBA Development League, after spending his first two seasons at Chipola (Fla.) JC, and his junior season at Iowa State. He was dismissed from Iowa State in July of 2007 and subsequently signed a pro contract with the D-League, making him automatically eligible for the next draft.
Taylor is a combo guard with a very nice stroke and excellent quickness. He also makes good shot/pass decisions. With combo guards becoming en vogue in the NBA these days, Taylor could be a real sleeper.
http://www.nba.com/features/orlando_20080528.html
Mike Taylor did it again.
One player that stood out more than anyone else in the individual drills was D-League combo guard Mike Taylor, a phenomenal athlete blessed with terrific scoring instincts who was deadly creating his own shot in 1 on 1 settings. He got to the rack whenever he pleased and did a great job creating space from his defender with his jab-steps and pull-up moves.He had 24 points in today's game.Mike Taylor continues to help his stock by showing possibly the most athleticism of any guard in this camp. He was simply a blur in the open floor, weaving his way in and out of traffic being impossible to stay in front of even in the half-court, a looking relentlessly explosive finishing around the basket. He was a man on a mission today, making emphatic plays that clearly left a strong impression in the eyes of decision makers who had never seen him before. His perimeter shot comes better than advertised, as he displayed by pulling up off the dribble from mid-range and killing his defender for going underneath a screen, while also knocking down 2 of his 5 attempts from behind the NBA arc. He also made two very nice reads in the half-court, in back to back possessions, making good reads to slashing cutters moving off the ball for easy finishes. He’s clearly more of a shooting guard than a point, but seems to have the instincts for that not to be as much of a factor these days as it may have been a few years back. He needs to continue to be unselfish and maybe bring it up a notch on the defensive end, but you can’t argue with how well he’s played here so far. He definitely has a chance to get drafted.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...ay-Three-2903/
Chump.
If you had to guess, where is Taylor slotted to go in the draft?
We can't afford the luxury of draft and stash any more. Our picks are going to have to be able to make the roster and learn on the fly in games.
With all the effort that teams put into scouting players, it is revealing how many players in the late first round never make a NBA game. Drafting well is a really hard thing to do. FO is behind the eight ball this year.
i would not be disappointed if that's the pick. he would fill a need sooner rather than later.
doesn't currently possess the range that the Spurs typically like in their wings, but he's a slasher, can finish with either hand, has a good mid-range game, and has the length to be a good defender.
i'm actually surprised he's expected to still be around towards the end of the first round.
Taylor looks and sounds great, but he might be playing himself up the draft a little too much. You don't want to use a 1st on him, and even our first 2nd... and our last might be too late.
Some marked CDR as important or better than Rose in sections of the seasons. He may not be the same potential player but I'd also not be disappointed in the pick. He has some real skills and could find ways to score off the bench.
I figure his lack of shooting, unorthodox style, and the fact there are other more pure wings and SFs ahead of him are putting teams off.
CDR reminds me of Tayshaun Prince. Lanky, unorthodox shot, ability to drive and handle the ball.
CDR would be a really solid pick for the Spurs.
He's probably played his way into the low second round by now, and he could go higher. We'll see what his measurements look like. I'm sure the Toros staff saw enough of him to decide if he is worth a workout.
he's made himself pretty reliable out to 18 feet or so. have to think that would only improve after spending some time with Chip.
Tayshaun is probably a fairly decent comparison. CDR's not that tall, but he's also better taking the ball to the rim.
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