Tiago Splitter Close to Signing Two-Year Extension with Tau

[Indazone]

Dude, you have to get up to date with facts. Spain is part of the Euro-zone, and the European Union. That is a fully integrated internal market that operates as a single en y. In terms of GDP it is the biggest economy of the planet. Whether they had to combine together or not, it's totally irrelevant.

TAU plays not only in the Spanish League, but the Euroleague, which draws revenues from the whole continent.

The Euroleague is not up to par with the NBA in terms of play, and probably never will be, but the NBA has to realize that it's not the only player of a sport that is global in its development. The NBA is not on the same operating scale as the NFL, NHL, MLB.

And while it might seem ridicoulous to you, fans, players, coaches, organizations, around the world prepare, and completely enjoy winning the Onlympics, the Euroleague, or the Eurobasket tournaments.

I am not someone that comes to the aide of KBP, but Americans have to understand it's a big big world out there and they have to open their eyes.

I feel bad for how the Splitter situation developed, but I too believe that the Spurs have only themselves to blame for this. This 'draft and stash' maybe worked with Manu, but it can't work forever. If they truly believed in the guy, than maybe they should have brought him in last year, or promised to draft him, and bring him in at 20 years old. Therefore now that he is 23, he would have been eligible for a big NBA contract. This is how the rest of the NBA works, you don't draft good players, and stash them along, and perpetually rebuild. The Spurs were the only ones to be able to do that, but now it seems like they too will go the way of other teams. When your team gets old, you have to start rebuilding your team from scratch like everyone else does.

Never say never. Wasn't it the USA Olympic team that was y and said that the Russians had no chance of ever beating them in 1972?

[diego]

And despite being the having the largest GDP on the planet, the EU/Eurozone/runners up don't have a basketball league which offers long-term guaranteed contracts on par with the NBA. Thanks for playing.

dont get me wrong, i'm no euro-lover, but you are being too simple in your analysis. in europe there is no players union, the owners would be stupid to give large guaranteed contracts for the sake of it. its much better for them to offer short contracts loaded with perks than risk a guaranteed long term one.

as for la liga vs MLS, big european clubs, like real madrid, barca, valencia, spend upwards of 250M yearly on players. thats more than the knicks, and i wouldnt be surprised if a team like barca spent more on players than the entire MLS- at least up until last year, when the MLS started bringing in "designated players" so they can try and snatch actual stars (who they've chosen so far is another story!)

but even then the story is more than economics, it has a lot to do with interest- soccer is way more popular in spain than it is in the US, and up until recently you could say basketball is way more popular in the US than spain. but the same way the US national team's success in recent tournaments has helped make soccer more popular in the US, spain's basketball NT's success has made basketball more popular there too. right now id say there are more basketball fans in spain than there are soccer fans in the US, %-wise (maybe even total, if you dont count women and children which are the bulk of US soccer fans!)

it sucks for us but tiago is making the safe move- load up on money now that its on the table and wait to see what happens after.

[endrity]

Never say never. Wasn't it the USA Olympic team that was y and said that the Russians had no chance of ever beating them in 1972?

I am going the safe way. Even if it will always be second to the NBA though, the Euroleague is "rival" and a reality that the NBA and its teams have to learn how to deal with.

[Indazone]

I am going the safe way. Even if it will always be second to the NBA though, the Euroleague is "rival" and a reality that the NBA and its teams have to learn how to deal with.

The NBA will deal with the Euroleague like they did with the ABA. If you can't beat them, suck them up and make them part of the NBA.

[endrity]

dont get me wrong, i'm no euro-lover, but you are being too simple in your analysis. in europe there is no players union, the owners would be stupid to give large guaranteed contracts for the sake of it. its much better for them to offer short contracts loaded with perks than risk a guaranteed long term one.

as for la liga vs MLS, big european clubs, like real madrid, barca, valencia, spend upwards of 250M yearly on players. thats more than the knicks, and i wouldnt be surprised if a team like barca spent more on players than the entire MLS- at least up until last year, when the MLS started bringing in "designated players" so they can try and snatch actual stars (who they've chosen so far is another story!)

but even then the story is more than economics, it has a lot to do with interest- soccer is way more popular in spain than it is in the US, and up until recently you could say basketball is way more popular in the US than spain. but the same way the US national team's success in recent tournaments has helped make soccer more popular in the US, spain's basketball NT's success has made basketball more popular there too. right now id say there are more basketball fans in spain than there are soccer fans in the US, %-wise (maybe even total, if you dont count women and children which are the bulk of US soccer fans!)

it sucks for us but tiago is making the safe move- load up on money now that its on the table and wait to see what happens after.

As for the MLS "designated player", if Becks continues to do well for his national team while playing in the US, it will make players realize that they can still be playing top level soccer even in the US. If Henry, Figo, Ronaldo, make the jump to the MLS the next few years, things could improve. It takes time to make stars like that come over though.

[endrity]

The NBA will deal with the Euroleague like they did with the NBA. If you can't beat them, suck them up and make them part of the NBA.

It's not happening! The NBA bussines model simply will not succeed in Europe. No way the NBA threatens Moscow, Barcelona, Athens fans that they can take their franchises away from them if they don't build a new arena/fill up stands/ whatever BS the NBA comes up with.

The Euroleague needs to get better management but I see it very hard for the NBA to expand in Europe.

[Indazone]

Either that or Basketball evolves into something more like FIFA Football.

[Holt's Cat]

Then you really have not read KBP carefully. Teams are more and more able to do so. They probably can't offer the type of contracts that Duncan, KG, Dirk, Kobe, Shaq, LeBron, get in the NBA but they are more and more able to offer the medium sized contracts.

And Splitter was not the next Duncan.

You also probably don't know of other big name veterans in the Euroleague that have passed on the NBA because they make much better money in Europe.

That is pretty darn good for a sport, that is MAYBE (probably not though) a very distant second to soccer is Europe.

Now I am not gonna be y and say thanks for playing, but there are some knowledgable people on this board. Try to read what they say or you are the one that looks like complete fool.

2 years and $10 mil is not a 'medium sized contract' in the NBA. It is amusing that none of you have been able to offer any example of an European player contract exceeding 2 years in length.

[endrity]

Either that or Basketball evolves into something more like FIFA Football.

Which is precisely what I think people are thinking of. You simply can't keep having NBA specific rules, when you are dealing with another powerful league.

[Holt's Cat]

As for the MLS "designated player", if Becks continues to do well for his national team while playing in the US, it will make players realize that they can still be playing top level soccer even in the US. If Henry, Figo, Ronaldo, make the jump to the MLS the next few years, things could improve. It takes time to make stars like that come over though.

That's the story of the MLS: "If."

[endrity]

2 years and $10 mil is not a 'medium sized contract' in the NBA. It is amusing that none of you have been able to offer any example of an European player contract exceeding 2 years in length.

Again, it was not $ but euros, which is a huge change. And it was after tax. And Euroleague deals have a lot of bonuses to them, if a team wins a trophy or similiar things. You are looking at making 8-9 millions $ a year after tax. That is pretty darn good I think for role players.

But the thing you have to realize here was that this deal was offered to a veteran players. I don't know the details of the Papaloukas, Diamantidis, Smodis deals, or Bodiroga before them, but there is a reason those guys never made the jump but were perfectly content with their contracts.

Plus, it also makes sense that those kind of deals will be offered to better players if they start coming to the Euroleague. If Marbury is intent on playing in Italy, we'll see what kind of contract he gets. The fact that AK was offered a pretty good one, means that the financial possibilities exist and they are getting better with better TV deals, and new arenas being built all over Europe.

[Holt's Cat]

Again, it was not $ but euros, which is a huge change. And it was after tax. And Euroleague deals have a lot of bonuses to them, if a team wins a trophy or similiar things. You are looking at making 8-9 millions $ a year after tax. That is pretty darn good I think for role players.

But the thing you have to realize here was that this deal was offered to a veteran players. I don't know the details of the Papaloukas, Diamantidis, Smodis deals, or Bodiroga before them, but there is a reason those guys never made the jump but were perfectly content with their contracts.

Plus, it also makes sense that those kind of deals will be offered to better players if they start coming to the Euroleague. If Marbury is intent on playing in Italy, we'll see what kind of contract he gets. The fact that AK was offered a pretty good one, means that the financial possibilities exist and they are getting better with better TV deals, and new arenas being built all over Europe.

Again, where is a link which substantiates that which you claim? This shouldn't be hard. NBA contract detail is readily accessible.

What was Kirilenko offered? All I've seen so far is that CSKA couldn't meet his NBA salary and hoped that he would take less.

[Holt's Cat]

dont get me wrong, i'm no euro-lover, but you are being too simple in your analysis. in europe there is no players union, the owners would be stupid to give large guaranteed contracts for the sake of it. its much better for them to offer short contracts loaded with perks than risk a guaranteed long term one.

as for la liga vs MLS, big european clubs, like real madrid, barca, valencia, spend upwards of 250M yearly on players. thats more than the knicks, and i wouldnt be surprised if a team like barca spent more on players than the entire MLS- at least up until last year, when the MLS started bringing in "designated players" so they can try and snatch actual stars (who they've chosen so far is another story!)

but even then the story is more than economics, it has a lot to do with interest- soccer is way more popular in spain than it is in the US, and up until recently you could say basketball is way more popular in the US than spain. but the same way the US national team's success in recent tournaments has helped make soccer more popular in the US, spain's basketball NT's success has made basketball more popular there too. right now id say there are more basketball fans in spain than there are soccer fans in the US, %-wise (maybe even total, if you dont count women and children which are the bulk of US soccer fans!)

it sucks for us but tiago is making the safe move- load up on money now that its on the table and wait to see what happens after.

So European clubs cannot match or surpass NBA contracts unless they are rookie scale contracts.

[endrity]

Again, where is a link which substantiates that which you claim? This shouldn't be hard. NBA contract detail is readily accessible.

What was Kirilenko offered? All I've seen so far is that CSKA couldn't meet his NBA salary and hoped that he would take less.

Euroleague contracts are not accesible to the public! I don't know of a site that publishes them. But in many cases I have heard Euroleague stars claim they were much much better off financially by staying in Europe.

And it seems to me like the CKSA offer came pretty close to matching up a top tier NBA contract. The fact that CSKA could offer that is impressive.

[Holt's Cat]

Oh, so they are some great myth of which no one is privy to the details? Surely there is an intrepid reporter who has broken the code.

It seems that the CSKA offer came close? Oh really? On what is that based? Myth, surely.

[endrity]

Oh, so they are some great myth of which no one is privy to the details? Surely there is an intrepid reporter who has broken the code.

It seems that the CSKA offer came close? Oh really? On what is that based? Myth, surely.

Why would CSKA lie man, or why would AK lie. What is there to gain. The reports are that they offered a pretty big contract. That in itself is a huge development for the Euroleague.

Other contracts and bonuses for top players going from memory seem to be in 5-8 million euros range. That too is pretty big.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Oh, so they are some great myth of which no one is privy to the details? Surely there is an intrepid reporter who has broken the code.

It seems that the CSKA offer came close? Oh really? On what is that based? Myth, surely.

Ugly American you need learn what this mean. Is why all great Americans gets bad name in Europe because Ugly ones like you ruin for all of them.

[endrity]

i am off, watching the game now.

[Holt's Cat]

Why would CSKA lie man, or why would AK lie. What is there to gain. The reports are that they offered a pretty big contract. That in itself is a huge development for the Euroleague.

Other contracts and bonuses for top players going from memory seem to be in 5-8 million euros range. That too is pretty big.

ROFL. They hoped Kirilenko would take less. Even assuming your bogus #s are real, how many Euros is US$13.7 mil per year? How many guaranteed years were they offering?

Hmmm.

[Holt's Cat]

Ugly American you need learn what this mean. Is why all great Americans gets bad name in Europe because Ugly ones like you ruin for all of them.

Grouchy Greek, you need to learn that your myths don't mean jack.

[stxspurs]

well maybe FO visits vspan and we can have him as back up to parker....i dont want to see vaughn next year.....it this happens i would be alright with it.....oh ps... splitter

[Bruno]

http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/espor...o_1332052.html

Splitter's agent is saying that Splitter hasn't signed. He hasn't even made a choice.

I guess the likely scenario is still Splitter re-signing with Tau but it looks like it isn't done for the moment. If their is still a chance that Splitter sign with Spurs this summer, Spurs must grab it heavily.

[Supreme_Being]

Spurs must grab it heavily.

Apparently, yes.

[TheProfessor]

http://ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/espor...o_1332052.html

Splitter's agent is saying that Splitter hasn't signed. He hasn't even made a choice.

I guess the likely scenario is still Splitter re-signing with Tau but it looks like it isn't done for the moment. If their is still a chance that Splitter sign with Spurs this summer, Spurs must grab it heavily.

If I'm Pop or RC, I'm on the first plane to Spain.

[Bartleby]

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