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[DaDakota]

Why do American always bring up Beckham and MLS in these example?

WORST soccer league maybe in world is MLS. Euroleague is #2 basketball league in world. Beckham is CRAP player. Do you not understand this? He is not good enough player to play in best leagues. Why you keep make comparisons that is such nonsense?

Ok that is just wrong again, Beckham may not be what he once was but he is certainly good enough to play in the premiership and play well.

He looked great the other night playing for England, a wonderful set piece to Jon Terry's head for England's first goal.

Kill - you make a lot of great points, but your takes on certain things are just so...well....out there.

Yes, the Euroleague is 2nd to the NBA, and getting better, the NBA should be careful or they will have a competing league on their hands fairly soon.

That might not be bad, maybe we can have a club championship like soccer too.....

DD

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Rick Adelman treated Luis Scola like a veteran, he didn't even have to do any of the usual rookie stuff like carrying luggage.

Again, the problem is the rookie salary wage for the first round, European players can make more money over there, why come over for less, and then MAYBE not get a shot to play?

The NBA needs to do something about it or the better Euro players will stop coming over if they are subjected to the Rookie salary cap.

Maybe you are only subjected to the Rookie cap for 1 or 2 years, then your rights are owned but you can sign for whatever the team has available etc...

I mean Scola was a rookie and he got $3 million or so this year.....

Portland is having the Euro rookie issue with Rudy Fernandez, and it will become more and more prevelant going forward......

Something needs to be done.

Oh, and Kill Bill...send V-Span back to Houston, we need him to replace Alston...BADLY !

DD

But in Greece it was report Spanoulsi will not be trade for Scola unless Scola also get Chinese sho deal from Alexander. Scola will not agree sign for $3 million he wants more like $7 or $8 million so he gets shoe contract. Even MLE is pay cut for players like Scola or Papaloukas. How many teams otgher than Rockets where owner can also give shoe contract?

Adelman is different coach. he have by far best reputation in Europe with European players. Spanoulis would never leave once Adelman was coach if Morey did not continue do same lies to him. Once Adelman is there and he and Spanoulis talk he would have stay with Rockets. Then Morey start same lies again.

He tell him Mike James trade is only to be backup. Then he say he will be starter under Adelman. Then he draft Aaron Broooks. He say Lucas will leave and Brooks will be 3rd string. Then he say they will trade Alston. But then they keeps Alston.

Every time what he say is just craps and lies like before. Adelman, Yao, T-Mac keep ask Spanoulis stay but he can see Rockets managers will never change their ways even if coach Adelman is honest person the managers seem not to be. Also Morey still make such big issue over him have be in Greece with his mother and over him want train with national team instead play summer league.

Morey ask him play summer league because "I need see you play as point guard because all year Van Gundy never let you play as point guard so you must play summer league". Spanoulis and agent make very clear when he sign contract is just like Yao. National team will come first over Rockets every summer. But Rockets keep make big issue of this say "he refuse work with us let us see him as point guard we must keep add point guards".

Spanoulis right say if this case should have just have balls tell Van Gundy play him but all Dawson and Morey can do is keep ask all year Van Gundy plays him and when he tells them off they just shut up because they is weak persons unlike Van Gundy.

There is certain chance Spanoulis can come back to Rockets with Adelman there but this I think is base on Rockets gets managers that actually tell truth and also hold to promises they make.

If was just issue of Adelman he would be very happy to come to Rockets.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The Euroleague Rookie status is ridiculous. It should be scrapped immediately.

This is true but what to do about coaches like Van Gundy? What about Rockets board? You see 90 percent of fans there believe ANY Euroleague player is rookie and they also believe no Euroleague game ever play in life even count as game played only NCAA games count. What to do about this? Scale is ignorant yes but is because same ignorant beliefs of people in Rockets board is what cause such scale.

Same type of ignorant people is probably ones make scale.

[BacktoBasics]

Can we not talk about ing soccer in here. Jesus.

[DaDakota]

This is true but what to do about coaches like Van Gundy? What about Rockets board? You see 90 percent of fans there believe ANY Euroleague player is rookie and they also believe no Euroleague game ever play in life even count as game played only NCAA games count. What to do about this? Scale is ignorant yes but is because same ignorant beliefs of people in Rockets board is what cause such scale.

Same type of ignorant people is probably ones make scale.

Why worry about what other people think? Be confident that what you know about the Euros is the truth....some people just like to rile you up.

Let it go, big deal.

As for Morey, he was NOT the guy in charge it was Dawson, Morey did draft Brooks, but that was because V-Span said he wasn't coming back, they had to protect themselves.

They TRIED to trade Alston but shockingly (or rather not shockingly) they had no real offers.

They are still DESPERATE to replace Rafer but the sad truth is, that right now, he is the best PG on the team......which means it is WIDE open for someone like V-Span to come over and take his job.

As for summer league, they asked him to play, but they also understood his NT committment, no anger from them about that at all.

On another note, when does Greece play to get into the Olympics? Is that coming up? I hope you guys make it.

DD

[Mr. Body]

Is there any way to tear up the first round rights and release Splitter? If so, can they then try to sign him for larger dough?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

At least the MLS/Beckham deal is a real example of an inferior league handing out a large contract to a player from a superior league, instead of some great Greek myth.

How about this myth? Spanoulis pay $2 millions by Rockets and $6 millions by Panathinaikos. How is this "myth"? 3 times more Greek club than Texas club.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Ok that is just wrong again, Beckham may not be what he once was but he is certainly good enough to play in the premiership and play well.

He looked great the other night playing for England, a wonderful set piece to Jon Terry's head for England's first goal.

Kill - you make a lot of great points, but your takes on certain things are just so...well....out there.

Yes, the Euroleague is 2nd to the NBA, and getting better, the NBA should be careful or they will have a competing league on their hands fairly soon.

That might not be bad, maybe we can have a club championship like soccer too.....

DD

Beckham is not good enough to play in Champions Cup type team that want to win. He is too old and injury prone. This be like argue Robert Horry is should get another NBA contract. This is my point. Maybe once in awhile Beckham can perform but once or twice in a year is not good enought o play for real Champions Cup team.

Again hypes of US media about Beckham just inflates how he is see in US.

[BacktoBasics]

Beckham is not good enough to play in Champions Cup type team that want to win. He is too old and injury prone. This be like argue Robert Horry is should get another NBA contract. This is my point. Maybe once in awhile Beckham can perform but once or twice in a year is not good enought o play for real Champions Cup team.

Again hypes of US media about Beckham just inflates how he is see in US.

Enough already. Go ing talk about this somewhere else.

[BacktoBasics]

NO more ing soccer

[BacktoBasics]

Are you ing done?

[BacktoBasics]

Do I have to piss all over this thread to get the both of you to shut the up about a sport no one here cares about.

[K-State Spur]

How about this myth? Spanoulis pay $2 millions by Rockets and $6 millions by Panathinaikos. How is this "myth"? 3 times more Greek club than Texas club.

A big difference there is that Span's contract has little to do with the rookie salary cap.

No NBA team is going to pay him $6 million per year.

[Bruno]

Spurs officials, who haven’t received official word from Splitter’s representative about the contract

Unreal.
Splitter = Huge piece of .

[DaDakota]

A big difference there is that Span's contract has little to do with the rookie salary cap.

No NBA team is going to pay him $6 million per year.

I think if V-Span came out and said he would like to come back that he might get a full MLE type of deal from some NBA team.

He is a complete free agent, no matter what you think about the guy or his agent, they played this thing WONDERFULLY....he got his NBA rights back, and he got to sign and play for more money.

I mean that is about as good as the John Elway not playing for the Colts type of deal....simply outstanding from a players perspective.

V-Span is a complete free agent, is 25 years old, and tough as nails, has good size and quickness for the PG position, and oustanding Bball IQ.

If he wants to come back to the NBA, I am SURE that there will be a lot of teams interested.

DD

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Why worry about what other people think? Be confident that what you know about the Euros is the truth....some people just like to rile you up.

Let it go, big deal.

As for Morey, he was NOT the guy in charge it was Dawson, Morey did draft Brooks, but that was because V-Span said he wasn't coming back, they had to protect themselves.

They TRIED to trade Alston but shockingly (or rather not shockingly) they had no real offers.

They are still DESPERATE to replace Rafer but the sad truth is, that right now, he is the best PG on the team......which means it is WIDE open for someone like V-Span to come over and take his job.

As for summer league, they asked him to play, but they also understood his NT committment, no anger from them about that at all.

On another note, when does Greece play to get into the Olympics? Is that coming up? I hope you guys make it.

DD

as national team is in disaster these days. Giannakis who is coach of team is also now coach of Olympiacos which rival of Panathinaikos. Panathinaikos owner and also president of Greek sports federation have threaten him and he have threaten PAO players.

In US sports rivalry like Yankees and Red Sox is consider "big rivalry" this is like joke in Athens. In Athens PAO-Olmpiacos rivalry is like war. Fans will attack players and coach and players and coach will attack fans. There is riots and such. Also many times fans kill each other not just from fights but also from plan gang attacks. Even we see in Thessaloniki Aris players make mistake of drive into rival PAOK fans neighborhood and they have car overt turned. They was pull from car and beat up badly. This is typical way in Greece. American players just not know this. They would have know never to drive into rival area if they were Greek.

PAO fans we have already been punish 3 times this year for such actions. Even in Cup final half stadium was empty because of tickets be ban after some of our fans killed some Olympiacos fans over banner argument.

This is maybe give some idea of PAO-Olympiacos rivalry. So now Greek federation make mistake allow national team coach Giannakis to coach Olympiacos. Also Giannakis was PAO player and he won teams first Euroleague championship with PAO. He is most famous Greece born athlete in whole country. He is like God status.

Now he is in war of rivalry and also national team coach. Very bad decision by all involve. Fans of each team have fire rockets and grenades at players and coaches. PAO owner come on court during game and with mic connect to stadium speaker he ask fans to take out the clown Giannakis. Giannakis act like monkey and jump and down and make monkey actions to crowd and refs.

PAO players many is on national team like Spanoulis, Diamantidis, Tsartsaris, Diloudis and also Perperoglou should be in team now for Olympics as he has become best SF in Greece. But now these players is to be ban from national team by PAO owners.

Also FIBA has say they might make punishment on PAO owners because President of FIBA Europe is PAO fan and is connect to them and PAO owners. Maybe PAO current PAO players that refuse play this summer is will be ban for life from international compe ion and maybe have years of their contracts left they be suspended. PAO owner say he not care and players will do what he say and accept even if this case.

Giannakis call Diamantidis during game on court a "floros" something like weak ass got in English is best way one of my friends who very good in English slangs and rap explain me for best American translation.

He call Dikoudis something like President when he refer to club. Giannakis is like father to Spanoulis and he is one who develop him and teach him as coach of Maroussi when Spanoulis play there. He tell every Olympiacos player he is stupid idiot and is dumb they can easy trick him and make him be idiot he is.

Ref in last game is rumor take bribes call game for PAO and Olympiacos fans says where he is get cash in hand during game was payoff and PAO owner do this just make people angry. Also is then report Olympiacos owner will hire same ref to run Olympiacos team as way to out do PAO owner in buy refs off.

Basic what has happen Giannakis is greedy. He have make 1.2 million euros net with national team coach and this not enough he also go after Olympiacos job I think like 1.1 million euros net for this and he have succeed in his greed to ruin his status. He have go from hero and god to enemy now and also he have ruin our national team. This was to be our best team ever look at 12 players was ready to play MUCH better team than 2005 European champions team or 2006 World Championship team that finish 2nd and beat US.

This was team that would be #2 best team after US and now is all ruin. National team has been destroy. As for players like Diamantidis and Spanoulis they might never even play again with team thing has got so bad.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

A big difference there is that Span's contract has little to do with the rookie salary cap.

No NBA team is going to pay him $6 million per year.

He have been offer full MLE so almost this much by 6 NBA teams. So you have wrong infos on this.

[Indazone]

Well it's possible we could sign Spanoulis and make it to where he gets 7-8 million dollars. The Rockets could agree to pay Spanoulis's salary. What you can do is get Pana to buyout Spanoulis's contract. Now obviously you must compensate Panathenaikos for this act of great service otherwise they would not do it. So you have to give Pana something of equal or greater value. Hmmm what would that be?? Sending NBA players to Pana would be one option but since they are in different league with different rules and contracts I don't see how that would work.

So now you have to find another way of compensating Pana. Remember the Dikembe Mutumbo Trade. Maybe you just agree to help Pana in many other ways with an agreement between the Rockets and Pana for player development, marketing, etc. buidling fund maybe? lol

09/08/04: The Houston Rockets acquired center Dikembe Mutombo from the Chicago Bulls for guards Adrian Griffin, Eric Piatkowski and Mike Wilks. Nets had bought out his contract previously so he came cheap to Houston. At the time Dikembe Mutombo, between the Nets (buyout) and Rockets, made around $18.8 million.

[MannyIsGod]

Is there any way to tear up the first round rights and release Splitter? If so, can they then try to sign him for larger dough?

lol....

Splitter is not worth what he's getting paid. He's sure as not worth that to the Spurs. They can't, but even if they could I'd be so pissed if they even tried to do this.

[DaDakota]

If they released him, he would be free to negotiate with ANY NBA team, remember what happened to Clevland and Carloss Boozer?

The Spurs FO is much smarter than that.

DD

[K-State Spur]

He have been offer full MLE so almost this much by 6 NBA teams. So you have wrong infos on this.

who? when?

not buying what you're selling.

[stxspurs]

ok just to clarify...do we own rights to v-span since we got him in the trade? i saw someone said houston could bring him back....just got confused

[Mr. Body]

lol....

Splitter is not worth what he's getting paid. He's sure as not worth that to the Spurs. They can't, but even if they could I'd be so pissed if they even tried to do this.

lol...

He's worth as much as they're paying Bonner, surely. Even with the crap US exchange rate it's not as much as this offer now, but close enough to think about.

See Manny, even if it is overpaying him slightly, you have to do that to get talent from time to time. Rather you adhere to the Holt School of Vanishing Championship Eras.

Manny's next response: they can't tear up the contract. My response: I understand that.

[Indazone]

NBA teams can get these guys. They don't really fall under any rules if they get bought out and are complete free agents. All they got right now are the archaic rules in place now with NBA rookies is convince the Euroleague team to buyout their guy, compensate the Euroleague team and sign the guy you want under NBA rules.

It's the Wild Frontier with the Euroleague when it comes to the NBA. Anything can go because there are basically very few rules and the ones in place can be skirted.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

who? when?

not buying what you're selling.

From 2005 to 2006 time before he sign with Rockets 6 teams offer him MLE. But Rockets owns his rights at the time so unless there can be trade of his rights to these teams he cannot sign. This because Rockets for long time did not want to sign him but also they did not want to trade his rights.

Pistons
Trail Blazers
Mavericks
Warriors
Spurs
Kings

All were teams try to get his rights and would pay him full MLE contract. It not matter if you believe or not it is true.