Tiago Splitter Close to Signing Two-Year Extension with Tau

[stxspurs]

backup cuz i was going to a contender.......

[DaDakota]

backup cuz i was going to a contender.......

The Spurs finished a grand total of ONE game better than the Rockets, and that was without Yao Ming for the last 27 games.

One is a very old team that needs to reload, one is an up and coming team.

Honestly, it would not be an easy choice....but the Spurs need more than V-Span, they need to get quicker on the perimeter at the wing position and could use an upgrade at center too.

Both teams are in similar situations, and both chasing the FRICKEN lakers now that they got Gasol for a half eaten bag of cheetos.

DD

[T Park]

The Spurs finished a grand total of ONE game better than the Rockets, and that was without Yao Ming for the last 27 games.

One is a very old team that needs to reload, one is an up and coming team.

Honestly, it would not be an easy choice....but the Spurs need more than V-Span, they need to get quicker on the perimeter at the wing position and could use an upgrade at center too.

Both teams are in similar situations, and both chasing the FRICKEN lakers now that they got Gasol for a half eaten bag of cheetos.

DD

The Spurs also played a month and a half without Tony Parker and 3 months without Brent Barry.

[Bruno]

I like how people hijack a splitter thread to speak about Vaginis Spatula.
If you want to speak about him, start a thread in the Basketball News Central forum.

[stxspurs]

its about the playoffs....wcf > 1st rd

[DaDakota]

I think the V-Span and Splitter deals are symptomatic of a budding problem, thus the argument is germaine to the overall topic.

Splitter has chosen to sign for more money, and honestly should that surprise anyone here?

I mean given the cir stances wouldn't pretty much everyone do the exact same thing.

He may never come over, because of the rookie pay scale, and that is simply a fact.

DD

[T Park]

I think the V-Span and Splitter deals are symptomatic of a budding problem, thus the argument is germaine to the overall topic.

Splitter has chosen to sign for more money, and honestly should that surprise anyone here?

I mean given the cir stances wouldn't pretty much everyone do the exact same thing.

He may never come over, because of the rookie pay scale, and that is simply a fact.

DD

Would I do the same thing?

Maybe.

Not if I told the team a year ago that "I Will sign next summer and come over. Gauranteed"

[Holt's Cat]

I like how people hijack a splitter thread to speak about Vaginis Spatula.
If you want to speak about him, start a thread in the Basketball News Central forum.

That's all that mother er posts about. 24/7/365. Who gives a about a player who couldn't cut it in the NBA?

Bruno, you're alright.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Because he is better than both of them, and would more than likely become the starter, whereas with the Spurs he is not as good as Parker and would only get backup minutes.

So, which would you choose, start, or backup?

DD

This is true now because Spanoulis did not prove anything in NBA. But if you must know truth when France and Greece play over years Spanoulis has most of times outplay Parker. And since they are same generation (mean same year be born) they have been play each other for years.

In one time before Parker come to NBA draft by Spurs Parker was best point guard in Europe of his generation and Spanoulis was next and then Zisis and then Beno.

But in all times after this Spanoulis was best and then Parker. But in 2007 European Championship Parker was better for tournament but then hard to say because his team was very poor. Spanoulis was much better than Parker in 2007 Acropolis tournament. And if Spanoulis was play on same France team he can have same numbers Parker did.

Spanoulis have 24 points 12 NBA assists in game against Spain. Very few players in world can do this.

[DaDakota]

Would I do the same thing?

Maybe.

Not if I told the team a year ago that "I Will sign next summer and come over. Gauranteed"

But players do that all the time, say whatever a team wants to hear and then follow the money.

All players do that, NBA, Euro, every league......

Right now, the Euro is a lot stronger than the dollar which is amazing because the European Union has more debt than the USA, but that is another discussion for another thread.

Unless the NBA changes the rules on Euro players, and this is tricky because some 18 year old USA kids are watching, this will continue to fester.

The good thing is that Splitter is still very young, but think about it for a minute....he comes over to the USA to play ball and has to take a MAJOR pay cut.....

I mean come on...that is NOT an easy thing to do, when you consider your entire career is about 10 years on average, you need to maximinze your earning potential.

DD

[T Park]

This is true now because Spanoulis did not prove anything in NBA. But if you must know truth when France and Greece play over years Spanoulis has most of times outplay Parker. And since they are same generation (mean same year be born) they have been play each other for years.

In one time before Parker come to NBA draft by Spurs Parker was best point guard in Europe of his generation and Spanoulis was next and then Zisis and then Beno.

But in all times after this Spanoulis was best and then Parker.

God, jump of a building.

[T Park]

But players do that all the time, say whatever a team wants to hear and then follow the money.

All players do that, NBA, Euro, every league......

Right now, the Euro is a lot stronger than the dollar which is amazing because the European Union has more debt than the USA, but that is another discussion for another thread.

Unless the NBA changes the rules on Euro players, and this is tricky because some 18 year old USA kids are watching, this will continue to fester.

The good thing is that Splitter is still very young, but think about it for a minute....he comes over to the USA to play ball and has to take a MAJOR pay cut.....

I mean come on...that is NOT an easy thing to do, when you consider your entire career is about 10 years on average, you need to maximinze your earning potential.

DD

Not all players do that.

Pull the head out.

[CaptainLate]

The biggest downfall is this is yet another wasted 1st round draft pick for a team really needs to add talent and bench depth.

I'd prefer the Spurs now turn their attention to Desgana Diop. They need another rebounder and shot-blocker to go along with Duncan.

Agreed. But he's interested in going back to Mavs and with cheap Holt we can't can outbid Cuban. Our only chance with Diop is to convince him that Kidd is washed up and the best opp for a is with the Spurs.

[DaDakota]

Not all players do that..

TPark,

Let's keep it civil, please.

You are correct not all players do that, but would you agree that the majority do?

I mean money talks.....

Honestly, what would you do if you were Splitter? Would you take 8 times more money to stay and star for playing half the games?

Or would you go to the NBA for far less money and be a good solid role player and be locked up for basically the next 5 years?

DD

[T Park]

If he signed the rookie contract it would be 2 years.

I would sign the contract, then get an even bigger one in year 3, and play in the best league in the world.


The majority? I have no clue, because alot of the times the player comes over.

[Indazone]

You know, if the Euroleague started waving money and contracts in front of good college players say for 3-400,000 dollars more than the NBA minimum rookie contract can you say mass exodus of many second rounders???

[DaDakota]

If he signed the rookie contract it would be 2 years.

I would sign the contract, then get an even bigger one in year 3, and play in the best league in the world.


The majority? I have no clue, because alot of the times the player comes over.

The lack of them coming over is a fairly new development, the Euro leagues have upped their pay considerably as the leagues over there have gained significant ground in popularity, it is something that is just starting to be an issue in these last 2 years.

I may be mistaken but once you sign the Rookie deal, I think you are team bound for 5 years.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

Look at Mahini's contract above, 2 guaranteed years then team options in year 3 and 4 and a qualifying offer in year 5.

So basically he could be underpaid for 5 years.

That is half of his career.....

Again, can you blame the guy for taking the money? The NBA needs to do something about it, or they will be losing the better Euros....a lot of the time in the future.

DD

[Indazone]

You want to know what would give the Euroleague immediate legitimacy? If they started raiding the USA college ranks and paid the number one draft pick 6 million dollars right off the bat. If it was a franchise player coming like Lebron, offering that guy like 50-70 million dollars for a 5 year contract. If the Euroleague started doing that, then all bets are off. What could the NBA do then? That's an example of a compe or completely breaking a cartel.

[T Park]

The lack of them coming over is a fairly new development, the Euro leagues have upped their pay considerably as the leagues over there have gained significant ground in popularity, it is something that is just starting to be an issue in these last 2 years.

I may be mistaken but once you sign the Rookie deal, I think you are team bound for 5 years.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

Look at Mahini's contract above, 2 guaranteed years then team options in year 3 and 4 and a qualifying offer in year 5.

So basically he could be underpaid for 5 years.

That is half of his career.....

DD

If he played to his potential, the Spurs would scrap the deal and give him a new one.

Guaranteed.

[Spur-Addict]

Well an aging Ginobili and a young Vspan coming over makes sense for the Spurs. They are both the same type of slashing high turnover players.

I certainly disagree, Span is not of Manu's calibur. Span is undersized, faster and not proven as clutch in the American game. He couldn't beat out Rafer Alston for a job, plus he knew Tony is better. (lol) He can't be compared to Manu. , overseas Manu was better than Span. Please, no more stupid comments. (Emphasis on the Alston Statement)

[DaDakota]

If he played to his potential, the Spurs would scrap the deal and give him a new one.

Guaranteed.

I think that is probably true but for me, as a business man, I want it ALL on paper.

And that is against the rules, making it far more difficult.

I understand Splitter's decision, and think that unless the NBA does something about the Rookie scale for the Euros, then he may never come over.

It probably also causes many NBA teams to pause before drafting a Euro in the first round...ever again.

DD

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I certainly disagree, Span is not of Manu's calibur. Span is undersized, faster and not proven as clutch in the American game. He couldn't beat out Rafer Alston for a job, plus he knew Tony is better. (lol) He can't be compared to Manu. , overseas Manu was better than Span. Please, no more stupid comments. (Emphasis on the Alston Statement)

Spanoulis is Steve Nash level in offense in all ways except shooting. He is faster than Nash and much better in defense.

[Indazone]

I certainly disagree, Span is not of Manu's calibur. Span is undersized, faster and not proven as clutch in the American game. He couldn't beat out Rafer Alston for a job, plus he knew Tony is better. (lol) He can't be compared to Manu. , overseas Manu was better than Span. Please, no more stupid comments. (Emphasis on the Alston Statement)

The situation is different. This was a personality conflict with the head coach that did not get him playing time.

[Bruno]

Milt Palacio > Vaginis Spatula.
And Vaginis don't want to come in NBA.

And Kill_Bill_Pana knows nothing about NBA and the European basketball. People laughs as hard as him here than on Europeans message boards.

[Indazone]

I still think the Euroleague should turn the tables on the NBA. Go after a number one draft pick. These clubs certainly have the money to be able to do that. They got huge soccor followings and they can easily divert some money from soccor to basketball. It'll be like the old American Basketball Association with Dr. J, George Mcginnis, Artis Gilmore, George Gervin. etc.