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    People didn't even have other running backs to compare Eric Rhett to. Eric Rhett ran a 4.10 without shoes- true story.
    Eric Rhett didn't do because he doesn't exist.

    Errict Rhett sucked ass.

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    Eric Rhett didn't do because he doesn't exist.

    Errict Rhett sucked ass.
    he had 4,143 yards in 6 years, that isn't exactly sucking. He would have broken all the records if not for the injury in 2000 when he was coming into his prime. You figure that he was only about 14k yards away from the record and that it took Emmit Smith 14 years to get the record. If Rhett had 8 more years in the league he would easily have that.

    They both went to Florida, but other than that there is no comparison between Rhett and Smith. It's Rhett all day long

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    People didn't even have other running backs to compare Eric Rhett to. Eric Rhett ran a 4.10 without shoes- true story.
    he also had a career average of 3.5 yards a carry and only one season of 4 or more. impressive use of that "speed" you talk about. i've never heard a thing about the 4.10 story...

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    he had 4,143 yards in 6 years, that isn't exactly sucking. He would have broken all the records if not for the injury in 2000 when he was coming into his prime. You figure that he was only about 14k yards away from the record and that it took Emmit Smith 14 years to get the record. If Rhett had 8 more years in the league he would easily have that.

    They both went to Florida, but other than that there is no comparison between Rhett and Smith. It's Rhett all day long
    You MUST be kidding. First off, it was 7 years. that is not very impressive at all when talking about all time greats. LT broke 4,143 during his 3rd year.

    and your memory must be bull ting you. please tell me you are really just trying to with us, as normally you are one of my favorite posters, and usually make sense in your debates. check these stats out, and tell me how the he looked like he was going into his prime in 2000 and was on pace to break any records...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...s?playerId=650

    EDIT: the more and more i look at how ridiculous your posts are, im really thinking you are just trying to with us. lol

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    It would have been funnier if Dan said Earnest Byner and his superglue-sure hands.

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    EDIT: the more and more i look at how ridiculous your posts are, im really thinking you are just trying to with us. lol
    and you took the time to write a couple paragraphs to refute me. I don't even think he was injured- I think he was just cut and vanished from the NFL for being so mediocre.

    i've never heard a thing about the 4.10 story...
    who in their right mind would run their 40 without shoes?


    It would have been funnier if Dan said Earnest Byner and his superglue-sure hands.
    Byner was actually decent. I was looking for the most mediocre running back I could think of at which case Rhett came to mind. I think Byner made a Pro Bowl
    Last edited by Thunder Dan; 05-30-2008 at 10:56 AM.

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    the BEST retired after the 1965 season. no contest.

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    the BEST retired after the 1965 season. no contest.
    Tom Matte?

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    was he in "The Dirty Dozen" too?

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    I've had dinner with Jim Brown not once but twice. True story no bull

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    I've had dinner with Jim Brown not once but twice. True story no bull
    cool. he's the best EVER.

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    cool. he's the best EVER.
    yeah I've never seen him play but his stats are crazy. I think it's either him of Barry Sanders. Barry always played on crap teams with bad lines and still managed to do well.

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    I've had dinner with Jim Brown not once but twice. True story no bull
    Did he force himself on you?

    Is that why you remember it so fondly?

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    Emmitt Smith is #1 until somebody rushes for more yards than him.

    Everything else is shoulda, woulda, coulda . . . . it amounts to nothing.

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    Okay, I know that Emmitt's O-line was way better than Barry's, but I think it's definitely revisionist history and romanticizing of Barry when I hear about how godawful the Lions' O-line was back then.

    That O-line was good enough to make Erik Kramer & Scott Mitc look like halfway competent passers. I know having Herman Moore & Brett Perriman helps any QB, but you've still gotta have time to throw the football.

    I'm not saying Detroit had a great, or even a good line. But the revisionist history of "Barry did all that with the worst line in NFL History, he'd probably get 3000 yards a season with Emmitt's line" is just not true.

    Barry didn't have the discipline to follow his assignment or the vision to know where holes would open up. He made up for it with superhuman agility. He is absolutely one of the greatest of all time, and definitely the most exciting player in NFL history, but I would put Emmitt right at his level as far as "greatness" goes.

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    Did he force himself on you?

    Is that why you remember it so fondly?
    I don't remember it fondly because all in all I think a total of 3 words were exchanged between me and him, plus I was like 11 and 13 and had no idea who the Jim Brown was

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    Okay, I know that Emmitt's O-line was way better than Barry's, but I think it's definitely revisionist history and romanticizing of Barry when I hear about how godawful the Lions' O-line was back then.

    That O-line was good enough to make Erik Kramer & Scott Mitc look like halfway competent passers. I know having Herman Moore & Brett Perriman helps any QB, but you've still gotta have time to throw the football.

    I'm not saying Detroit had a great, or even a good line. But the revisionist history of "Barry did all that with the worst line in NFL History, he'd probably get 3000 yards a season with Emmitt's line" is just not true.

    Barry didn't have the discipline to follow his assignment or the vision to know where holes would open up. He made up for it with superhuman agility. He is absolutely one of the greatest of all time, and definitely the most exciting player in NFL history, but I would put Emmitt right at his level as far as "greatness" goes.
    couldn't this arguement be totally reversed by saying that the Lions' passing game (which wasn't much) exsisted only because of the threat of Barry Sanders. Also, couldn't someone argue that having a bad QB like the Lions had those years only adds to Barry Sanders' legacy... Think about it, Barry Sanders managed to be a great running back while being the only real offensive threat the opposing defense had to prepare for. They didn't have to worry about being picked apart by a capable QB or speedy recievers, all they had to worry about was Barry Sanders running behind a line that was full of a bunch of nobodys (except for Lomas Brown)

    Now Emmit was the complete opposite. Defenses had to worry about Troy Aikmen throwing to Michael Irvin, Alvin Harper and Jay Novacheck or whatever his name was. Defenses were on their heels because Dallas had a all around game. That is why I don't consider Emmit Smith better than Barry. Emmit was fortunate to be in a good situation in Dallas- much like Terrell Davis
    in Denver- who despite my jokes of Rhett, could have indeed broken Smith's records if he were not injured and were able to play 14 seasons like Smith. I bring him up only to say that it's really not that big of a deal that Smith has the rushing record. When you are decent for 14 years you are going to get the record. If Barry Sanders played for the Cowboys in the 90's he could have easily retired with 17-18k total yards in only 9 seasons.

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    all very compelling arguments until you insert JIM BROWN!!!

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    couldn't this arguement be totally reversed by saying that the Lions' passing game (which wasn't much) exsisted only because of the threat of Barry Sanders. Also, couldn't someone argue that having a bad QB like the Lions had those years only adds to Barry Sanders' legacy... Think about it, Barry Sanders managed to be a great running back while being the only real offensive threat the opposing defense had to prepare for. They didn't have to worry about being picked apart by a capable QB or speedy recievers, all they had to worry about was Barry Sanders running behind a line that was full of a bunch of nobodys (except for Lomas Brown)

    Now Emmit was the complete opposite. Defenses had to worry about Troy Aikmen throwing to Michael Irvin, Alvin Harper and Jay Novacheck or whatever his name was. Defenses were on their heels because Dallas had a all around game. That is why I don't consider Emmit Smith better than Barry. Emmit was fortunate to be in a good situation in Dallas- much like Terrell Davis
    in Denver- who despite my jokes of Rhett, could have indeed broken Smith's records if he were not injured and were able to play 14 seasons like Smith. I bring him up only to say that it's really not that big of a deal that Smith has the rushing record. When you are decent for 14 years you are going to get the record. If Barry Sanders played for the Cowboys in the 90's he could have easily retired with 17-18k total yards in only 9 seasons.
    You're selling Emmitt ridiculously short here. He wasn't all that fast or athletic, but (despite what his ESPN career might tell you) he was THE smartest guy on the Dallas Cowboys during those years. His success came from never making a mistake, and knowing exactly where the hole would open up, when it would open up, and being able to time things to perfection. Yeah, he had lots of help, but just like Barry he was the heart of that offense.

    Ask Derrick Lassic or Sherman Williams or Herschel Walker or Troy Hambrick if any moron could run through those holes in Dallas. In the few times that Emmitt was hurt during their dynasty years, that team went straight into the ter. They could survive with Jason Garrett or Steve Buerlein, they could survive without Irvin if they had to, but that team was royally ed every time Emmitt missed a game. During Emmitt's holdout in 93, Charles Haley punched a hole in a wall because he was so pissed about how bad they sucked without him.

    Barry didn't have the discipline or incredible vision to do what Emmitt did. Emmitt didn't have the freak of nature athletic ability to do what Barry did. They're both equally great in their own ways.

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    Emmitt Smith rookie stats (started 15 games)

    937 rushing yards, 228 receiving yards, 1165 yards from scrimmage, 11 TDs, did not make playoffs

    Joseph Addai rookie stats (started 0 games)

    1081 rushing yards, 325 receiving yards, 1406 yards from scrimmage, 8 TDs, won Super Bowl

    Addai > Smith

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    None of this matters, Laurence Maroney will go down as the GOAT before it's all over. He pretty much already is.

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    There really isn't much discussion outside of Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Gale Sayers and Barry Sanders. Emmitt Smith was a product of a great line and team. The other people on the fringe of the top 4 are Eric erson, OJ Simpson and Tony Dorsett, all coming before Emmitt.

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    Barry Sanders was the most exciting. That makes him my choice.

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    The only people who believe Emmitt was the best are blind Cowboy honks.

    Anybody who wants to talk about numbers can talk about the fact that Jim Brown averaged over 100 yards per game.

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    The only people who believe Emmitt was the best are blind Cowboy honks.

    Anybody who wants to talk about numbers can talk about the fact that Jim Brown averaged over 100 yards per game.
    you obviously have no clue whatsoever

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