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Tony is getting too much good pussy. That will always make the toughest of men go soft. No pun intended.
we ain't trading our big 3 , ing get over it
lets see what we can get out in the Fa market or in drafts
then decide who to trade (not the big 3 tho)
Tony is getting too much good pussy. That will always make the toughest of men go soft. No pun intended.
This Is Not A Trade Tony Parker Thread ing Idiots!!
Wow, this didn't take long from one year ago
Naturally it was Tony's fault. It's funny how that always is the case. Manu scores like 3 points in games 1 and 2 and yet it's Tony who's at fault.
im not saying its tony in fault.....when did i say it was u piece of cat .
but people keep dreamin about free agents and ...not gonna happen.
instead i try and give a realistic way to improve our team for years to come. not just next year...... next year im looking for the future.
So your solution is for Tony Parker to improve his jumper.
Yeah that solution would go over well in the meeting on monday.
Genius
tony working on the 3ball is not alot to ask for.
and i would like to see him try and get easy buckets for teammates more often. ya he is supposed to attack and score. but he can get his whenever. but other teammates cant..
he is our pg...our floor general. play like one and get your teammates a rhythm
*shakes head*
i think its just a little weird...when he first came into the league he shot more 3's when he had no jumper...yet now he has a decent one..he wont even attempt one unless he has to
dontcha know anything! Pop does not want that at all!
You just ed about Tony's assist average. Nevermind that Tony has done exactly what Pop asked of him.
Tony just needs to keep improving his decision making and confidence.
The ongoing theme with Tony Parker.
Pop lets him shoot the three ball now, Tony's just not always confident in it.
Pop even said during the playoffs he thought he might have been screwing him up by giving him too many instructions.
I think next year Pop will loosen the reigns a bit more, as Parker will be a year more experienced.
I know how appealing the idea of Tony running the ball up the floor and dropping in three after three is, but that probably ain't gonna happen.
well, when i saw the thread, i was saying 'wow, it's back again. some parker hating, even after being arguably our best player in these PO, with tim".
but to be honest, i don't think it was the OP intention. he didn't mean "trade parker". and the answering posts may show that the parker hating is maybe something gone now.
my thoughts:
- Tony was tremendous in these PO. two years ago, anyone would kill to have him at this level and consistently.
- he scored well at a good % and was the only one to do that on our team in these PO.
- his defense was amazing. he was killed some times in the RS for his lazy defense and he deserved it. but he showed that when he's focused he's a good defender.
- his main skill is to score. he's the best at it and above all, it's what Pop is always asking him. He's anyway a good passer, but can't average 9 + apg in our game plan.
- his JS is really decent now. even if he has improved his game each year, i don't see him becoming ever a great catch and shoot or 3's shooter. if he keeps a reliable JS, it should be enough.
- Tony won't probably never be a real franchise player. Few players are able to do that (tim, KB, LBJ, CP3, KG ....). I think that we're blessed to have him at his actual level and he will probably improve again. Our big three is fine for 3, 4 years. but they will need some help in offense, probably more than by the recent past, in order to not waste these few good years, especially the Tim's ones.
I agree that Tony would benefit of improving is 3s. But you act like it is something easy to become a 40+ %3P (it is not like if he could just wait in the corner for open 3s). He already made huge progress with his jumpshot. He clearly put a ton of work in this. If he improves that's fine, but if he doesn't I will not blame him.
And, with an healthy manu, our BIG3 is great and match any "BIG3" in the league. We just need to improve the rest of the team.
Yes, how about some role players, young ones for a change. Instead, we have a team filled with Matt Bonner, Vaughn, an aging Robert Horry, Finley, Barry, Damon, etc...
Where are the role players?
With an healthy manu, our BIG 3 is not far from being the greatest Big 3 ever
and yeah TP was possibly the best spur of these PO but against the Lakers, with an injured Manu, he didn't REALLY step up the way he did in the past when he almost won games by himself (1st round against the Suns, last year Finals, crucial games in the past against the Mavs or the Nets in 2003)
Tony Parker is part of the solution, not the problem.
Is he as good as Chris Paul? No. Who is?
Parker was good enough on this team to beat Chris Paul's team, which was a heck of an accomplishment.
Next.
Tony's not the problem, we need a solid inside player who can score and rebound to help Tim and we need some quickness from our bench players. Thomas, Oberto and Horry all played weak and while Tim got some monster numbers none of those other guys did enough to take advantage of Tim's great play down low. Rebounds, second chance points and points in the paint killed us, and Manu's horrible play. Tony was not the problem.
this is pretty much how i felt- tony was great these playoffs, best or 2nd best player for the spurs, but i expected him to go off on the lakers and it just didnt happen. and the weird thing is is that every now and then he'd get in there and do his thing, then the following possesion he'd drive into the corner, or pull up for some J. thats one of the things i criticize pop and the coaches for, not finding a way to make room for tony and tim inside against the lakers despite them not having great defenders.
and for the love of god, the last thing this team needs is more 3pt shooting. there's already too many 3pt shooters on the roster and this team needs more inside scoring
You can say similar things about Tim. Timmy had some of his worst games vs the NO in that series. He did have a high fever, though. Similar to Manu having a bad ankle.
The point is no one is perfect.
Yet, when there is a loss, the blame is either on Manu or Tony. Never on Timmy because everyone knows no one would ever think of trading him. And because he's the main player.
Last edited by greens; 05-31-2008 at 08:18 PM.
I wouldn't trade Tony but he does have to make better decisions and adapt when the opposition takes things away from him. That's where the assists thing comes in. He dribbles the shot clock away a lot, and if Tony needs to work on something besides his shooting which is coming along great I think, it's his decision making after he gets to the 15 sec spot on the shot clock. He needs to know when to give it up and not just waltz around and turn the ball over or pick up his dribble with no out. But the fact is that Tony is a mismatch no matter who lines up against him, he just has to need to recognize how much more he can do with what he has, and one of those things is finding open guys when the 5 guys on the other team are chasing him around.
Duncan has taken plenty of grief for losses on this board. In game blogs, in threads. He's been called soft, a pussy, it's been said he's rich, bored, and doesn't care anymore. I'm pretty sure there have been "trade him while he still has some value" threads. Duncan is the foundation of this team but he has taken his share of hits for losses on SpursTalk.
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