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    DerMarr Johnson is probably the most overlooked Spur. His skillset is pretty damn similar to Stephen Jackson. He's even taller and even longer ... which is nice with the giant azz Lakers now seemingly the team to beat.

    I hope Johnson plays in summer league and shows he's continuing to work on his game. He's 28 and he's been given up on a number of times so he's probably in a good frame of mind in terms of doing whatever the Spurs want.

    If he plays well in summer league, he should definitely go to training camp and be given a legit shot. A long, athletic perimeter player who can shoot isn't something you come across everyday. I know he's damaged goods and not too much of an exciting prospect at this point, but you never know when a guy will figure it all out like Stephen Jackson in '03.

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    Wasn't DerMarr like the #5 draft pick or something? Wow.

    I'm not sure how far the Stephen Jackson comparison goes. Sounds like the 'Matt Bonner will take Horry's role!' posts from earlier in the season. A similar skill set does not equal the same player. Besides, I think DerMarr has corralled all of 2 rebounds his entire career.

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    Bonner will probably get consistent PT next season. Having a 4 who can shoot the 3 isn't a bad thing.

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    Bonner will probably get consistent PT next season. Having a 4 who can shoot the 3 isn't a bad thing.
    The only thing I want from Bonner is cap relief.

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    DerMarr Johnson is probably the most overlooked Spur. His skillset is pretty damn similar to Stephen Jackson. He's even taller and even longer ... which is nice with the giant azz Lakers now seemingly the team to beat.

    I hope Johnson plays in summer league and shows he's continuing to work on his game. He's 28 and he's been given up on a number of times so he's probably in a good frame of mind in terms of doing whatever the Spurs want.

    If he plays well in summer league, he should definitely go to training camp and be given a legit shot. A long, athletic perimeter player who can shoot isn't something you come across everyday. I know he's damaged goods and not too much of an exciting prospect at this point, but you never know when a guy will figure it all out like Stephen Jackson in '03.
    The risk-reward ratio is appealing. Guys like Johnson and Mahinmi would indeed add some length and athleticism to the supporting cast. 6'9" shooting guard who can shoot the 3 sounds pretty good these days.

    Johnson had two solid reserve years with the Nuggets prior to his last one. Not sure what happened. I'm guessing he just got squeezed out of PT due to JR Smith and whoever else.

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    The only thing I want from Bonner is cap relief.
    Relief for what? Bonner's contract hasn't preventing the Spurs from doing anything.

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    Bonner will probably get consistent PT next season. Having a 4 who can shoot the 3 isn't a bad thing.
    Jesus, man. This isn't late October 07. You need to revise your opinion.

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    Relief for what? Bonner's contract hasn't preventing the Spurs from doing anything.
    Signing Scola?

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    The only thing I want from Bonner is cap relief.
    he's a hustle guy who can hit the 3...he could really help spread the floor if he found a way to stay outa pops doghouse. He's pretty much danny ferry without the experience...not sure if that's what the spurs really want right now, but that's how i see his role.

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    A similar skill set does not equal the same player.
    Where did I say he'd equal the same player? I said he has a similar skillset .... and he does. There's a 95% chance Johnson doesn't amount to anything but that 5% is still worth a look.

    He fits what the Spurs would hypothetically be looking for. We'll see if he can flourish in summer league or if he'll be this year's James White.

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    They didn't want Scola. The decision wasn't Bonner over Scola it was Splitter over Scola.

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    Jesus, man. This isn't late October 07. You need to revise your opinion.
    How so? Bonner got squeezed out of minutes with a loaded frontcourt rotation. When Horry came back then Bonner ceased to see the court.

    Jesus, man, your Bonner vendetta is absurd.

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    It's just a bit silly to mention him as having similar skills as Jackson. You mostly meant he could suddenly figure the game out, which is fine. Dubious, but fine.

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    How so? Bonner got squeezed out of minutes with a loaded frontcourt rotation. When Horry came back then Bonner ceased to see the court.

    Jesus, man, your Bonner vendetta is absurd.
    Not really. Bonner's strictly end-of-the-bench material. Even Toronto understood this. Why anyone beyond extreeeeem optimism would claim otherwise is baffling. He is what he is.

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    It's just a bit silly to mention him as having similar skills as Jackson. You mostly meant he could suddenly figure the game out, which is fine. Dubious, but fine.
    Similar skillset. Who would you compare Johnson to? Long perimeter shooter with decent athleticism and can play D when he wants. For comparison sakes, I don't get why you have a problem saying Johnson is a poor man's Jackson.

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    How so? Bonner got squeezed out of minutes with a loaded frontcourt rotation. When Horry came back then Bonner ceased to see the court.

    Jesus, man, your Bonner vendetta is absurd.
    Yeah, I'm not sold one way or another on Bonner. 2007-08 didn't tell us anything regarding Bonner. He was playing pretty well early on when the Spurs got out to their 17-3 start. Other bigs got healthy, Thomas was brought in and Bonner was buried on the bench.

    Nothing changed for Bonner between last summer when the Spurs gave him that contract and right now. Perhaps the Spurs will want to go in a different direction but it's not like '08 was a huge failure for Bonner. No matter how he played, he wasn't going to beat out Horry, Oberto and Thomas for minutes.

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    Similar skillset. Who would you compare Johnson to? Long perimeter shooter with decent athleticism and can play D when he wants. For comparison sakes, I don't get why you have a problem saying Johnson is a poor man's Jackson.
    Dermarr might actually be more athletic...and more of what the Spurs are looking for. His length and outside shooting makes me want to see him get a chance with some minutes.

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    Similar skillset. Who would you compare Johnson to? Long perimeter shooter with decent athleticism and can play D when he wants. For comparison sakes, I don't get why you have a problem saying Johnson is a poor man's Jackson.
    Come on LJ, this is typical Mr. Body. Unless it's a guy he likes, he's going to run him down, even if he has to say the same crap 50 different ways in the same thread.

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    How so? Bonner got squeezed out of minutes with a loaded frontcourt rotation. When Horry came back then Bonner ceased to see the court.

    Jesus, man, your Bonner vendetta is absurd.
    You've bought into the Matt Bonner myth.

    He wasn't squeezed out of the rotation, he played his way out. Did you watch Robert Horry this season? He's awful. If Bonner can't beat the ghost of Horry for a spot in the rotation, he isn't gonna beat anybody. And it was Elson, not Thomas, that "squeezed" Bonner out. Yes, that Elson.

    So it's not a vendetta, it's the fact that Bonner's 3 pt. shooting is overrated and he is a defensive liabilty. In theory, his (suppossed) ability to space the floor looks good on paper. It simply hasn't panned out. We don't need another Beno. If we can cut out losses, then cut them.

    Besides the 3 million, he's eating up a roster spot that could be put to better use, even if it were designated to Austin. Matt Bonner will be of no help in overcoming the Lakers.

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    Come on LJ, this is typical Mr. Body. Unless it's a guy he likes, he's going to run him down, even if he has to say the same crap 50 different ways in the same thread.
    Isn't this true of everyone on the board? I've supported Javtokas (over Elson), got run down for it. Suddenly he's a bit rescendent. I think Bonner's extremely limited and no great hopes should be pinned on him. I think any kinds of comparisons between DerMarr Johnson and Stephen Jackson are completely unwarranted. DJ is a good jumpshooter with a lackadaisical at ude who can't rebound but plays pretty good defense from time to time. That I don't see him as an answer to any of our problems is hardly surprising - it takes a huge stretch to imagine him in the rotation.

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    Matt Bonner will be of no help in overcoming the Lakers.
    I'm surprised it has to be to point out Bonner's 26 point 17 rebound performance against them early on, one of the great shimmering mirages of the season.

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    With Bonner, he has to work hard over the summer on his game. I'd be all for him playing for summer league teams (can he?). We see how he is in the begining of the season, test him out, if he isn't capable then we raise his value and try to trade him or just put him in the dog house. If Bonner can consistently hit the 3 ball, he'd go great against the Lakers, his man would have to guard him, freeing up the paint for TD, TP, and Manu.

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    DJ is a good jumpshooter with a lackadaisical at ude who can't rebound but plays pretty good defense from time to time.
    And that differs from SJax circa '02 how exactly? SJax had at ude questions and was an extremely poor rebounder for his size. All SJax had back then was length and a high release point on his jumper. DJ now has *gasp* length and a high release point on his jumper.

    What huge talent/skillset difference am I missing between DJ today and '02 SJax?

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    Matt's not going to play summer league, nor should he. Bonner is certainly tradeable, but if not, he'll get another chance in training camp. Horry is too old to be a rotation player and no other big man can spread the floor like that.

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    DerMarr completely shut down people in Austin when he put his mind to it. He just didn't do it all that often. I can't quite get a line on his motivation. He certainly was the best option for a call up from the Toros at the time. I guess well see if the Spurs think he is worth keeping.
    who the did he shut down? other d-leaguers? dumbass.........

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