Most pressing need for the spurs is to get a center so Tim can play the 4 fulltime. No way the Lakers should have outrebounded the spurs.
Duncan's main assignment was to get rebounds and score when he could against the weakness of Gasol. Thomas got a lot of time because of the same issue. The center issue isn't as bad as the backup PG or the athletic swingman. The Spurs have some pipeline right now on the C area and can resign Thomas if needed. They are looking at the Splitter situation as well and have Ian to come over if they pull the trigger on that one.
If the Spurs are going after him, doesn't that make it even more likely that the Lakers would wanna keep him?
I disagree, a frontcourt with Tim Duncan should have destroyed the Lakers on the boards. Teams have been doing it all year. Gasol and Odom is not a very strong defensive frontcourt. Gasol is a PF and Odom is a tweener. The fact that Tim Duncan played amazing and the spurs were still not able to take advantage of an undersized Laker frontcourt should send warning signals. I really don't see how an older Thomas or some inexperienced centers are gonna be able to hold the 5 spot down, especially with a returning Bynum and a vastly improved Blazer team. To me it's obvious. Get Tim some help down low.
I'd be more impressed by this thread if there was a real article linked to it.
so what hes young.. which means longevity
I just can't agree with you on this. The C area isn't the most pressing matter for the Spurs right now. 2005 and 2007 were both won without substantial real help from the C position. I'm not saying the SPurs should keep going without some restructure at that position but they have more options right now to use for the C than the issue with backup PG and dependability at the swingman position. It's obvious they need to address the C more than ever now that other teams in the west have increased their potential in the frontcourt but the lack of good backcourt back ups have made most of the damage already. Either they draft a good one or they get an established players via trade or the like.
Well we're just gonna have to disagree. I still believe that basketball is a big mans game. Dominate on the inside and you will more than likely win.
Fvck Sasha. I'd be pissed if the Spurs even call him.
Exactly. I can't understand why the same Spurs fans who love the fact that they root for a team that actually has class and chemistry and everything good have gotten so desperate they'd want that guy.
Spurs fans get confused when a player has a few good games against the Spurs in the playoffs. Half of Spurs nation wanted the Spurs to throw the MLE at Sasha Pavlovic last summer.
There is no way the Lakers let Sasha go. He has been the most consistent role player all season long and a key part of why the Lakers are even in the Finals right now.
Turiaf, IMHO can go. I love the guy, but he has regressed a lot from the beginning of the season. The Lakers need to look in another direction to find a backup C for Bynum.
Exactly. Another reason why I don't even want the Spurs to bother. Lakers aren't dumb. There's no way they're letting him go this offseason.
You just changed our disagreement on this issue. I do think BB is a big man's game but our disagreement is about whats the most pressing matter right now.
I say backup PG and dependable swingman come before a center. You say the opposite. Of course I respect your opinion but the Spurs have ways to get around the C issue right now. They have nothing, absolutely nothing on the backup PG area.
I agree the spurs need to definitely upgrade their backup PG and swingman position. I just believe that allowing Tim to play the 4 fulltime would be the best move the spurs could do. It keeps him fresh, doesn't put everything on his shoulders, and would help with your teams rebounding issues. Teams are only gonna get bigger and I don't see how Duncan paired with a no name scrub will be able to get it done. I respect your opinion as well, I just think the spurs getting outrebounded as bad as they did against the Lakers should be the #1 priority this offseason. The return of Bynum next year will only make it more difficult to go with a makeshift frontcourt.
i dont know why we are talking about this.....the lakers would never let it happen, especially to the spurs.....bottom line
The way the D is set for the Spurs makes Duncan play the C position most of the time. Even though he goes in the books as PF, he does play like a big man. Look, if it was for me I would love to have a 7 footer like Splitter coming over but I honestly think that won't happen now. I agree the West now will require the Spurs to have dependable help in the front court next to Duncan but that's easier said than done.
Salary cap does not restrict signing one's own players.
Otherwise, the Mavericks wouldn't be spending 35 million dollars per year more than the Spurs (who are over the cap also).
Check this link for the cap:
http://www.nba.com/news/salarycap_070710.html
Then you can check this link to see that, indeed, the Spurs are over the cap as well, and all they have to show for it is a Western Conference Finals Participant ribbon:
http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm
So not to worry.
What it means is that this thread is much ado about nothing.
Rest assured, the Lakers will sign both Sasha and Turiaf. The only reason why they may pause on giving Bynum his $70 million contract extension this summer instead of next is the knee surgery.
But simmer down. Mitch Kupchak and Donald Stern have it all under control.
BWAAAHAHAHA!
Well that's the point Duncan should be able to play the PF position more often. No way that his frontcourt running mate should have to be Oberto or an old Kurt Thomas. I know Kwame is not popular, but a player like him would be a very good pickup for the spurs. I know he has his deficiencies, but he plays good defense, is athletic, can eat up minutes at the 5, and most importantly comes cheap. spurs should look into getting somebody like him or Diop. While they will probably eat up a good portion of the MLE I think it's a better move than spending that on a backup or PG or a small forward. Of course I don't really know the spurs cap situation and if the LLE is available or not. But that's just my opinion.
Thank god you aren't running things.
Turiaf is the Lakers best shotblocker and post defender outside of Bynum. Can back up the 4 AND 5, can hit the mid-range jumper. The Lakers toughest front court player. Good unselfish passer. Heart and soul of the bench. Good friends with Kobe. It would be re ed to let him walk. Ronny is a keeper.
Sasha sucked the first few months of the season (and three previous seasons before that) and then picked it up during the 2nd half. He has do more than play half a good season to prove he isn't a total product of the system. The fact is Sasha is a one dimensional player who can only really spot up. Disaster happens 95% of time when he puts the ball on the floor. Arguably the worst passer on the team. You claim Ronny has no bball-iq yet Sasha makes him look like Magic Johnson and his end of the game blunders back up that fact. Sasha sure as isn't worth the full MLE. The Lakers need to resign him but he can be easily replaced for 2-3 million dollars cheaper if worse comes to worst.
Sasha is good as well. He's a good defender that can hit the 3 ball. Not hard to admit that both are good players that will more than likely only get better.Thank god you aren't running things.
Turiaf is the Lakers best shotblocker and post defender outside of Bynum. Can back up the 4 AND 5, can hit the mid-range jumper. The Lakers toughest front court player. Good unselfish passer. Heart and soul of the bench. Good friends with Kobe. It would be re ed to let him walk. Ronny is a keeper.
Sasha sucked the first few months of the season (and three previous seasons before that) and then picked it up during the 2nd half. He has do more than play half a good season to prove he isn't a total product of the system. The fact is Sasha is a one dimensional player who can only really spot up. Disaster happens 95% of time when he puts the ball on the floor. Arguably the worst passer on the team. You claim Ronny has no bball-iq yet Sasha makes him look like Magic Johnson and his end of the game blunders back up that fact. Sasha sure as isn't worth the full MLE. The Lakers need to resign him but he can be easily replaced for 2-3 million dollars cheaper if worse comes to worst.
The guy takes some horrible shots sometimes...enough times to drive Pop crazy.
Desganado Diop would be awesome if he was available/reachable - and I think more than one person here has suggested that before, even as far as 2 years ago. Kwame I don't know if you can convince anyone here to take him.
Just go out and get Bonzi Wells isn't he a free agent this summer? If you can't beat the SpursKiller go out and get him to play for you.
Next option pls....
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