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    ....so then why didn't they get that cap room from the Bulls?
    because the Bulls had Ben "the max salary cap eater" Wallace, and I assume Chicago wanted to dig out all the salary they could. So they wouldnt want to trade away expiring contracts

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    4 firsts and a huge expiring is not that bad of a trade for the Grizzlies. Ask the Pistons what they gave up for Rasheed.

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    ....so then why didn't they get that cap room from the Bulls?
    Maybe becaue if you are going to outright release a player and make him available to compe ors you would rather give them Kwame than Wallace?

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    Detroit got Rasheed and Mike James by sending Zeljko Rebraca, Bob Sura and a future first to Atlanta, plus Chucky Atkins and Lindsey Hunter to Boston. Nice trade.

    The Warriors got Baron Davis for the immortal Speedy Claxton and future Hall-of-Famer Dale Davis.

    Where is the outrage?

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    Im a Spurs fan. I hate the NBA. I watch the Spurs and nothing else. The NBA is trash. There's a reason why I love watching march madness no matter if my team is there or not, but I didn't know the Heat won the le in '06 until someone mentioned it to me that September.

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    Detroit got Rasheed and Mike James by sending Zeljko Rebraca, Bob Sura and a future first to Atlanta, plus Chucky Atkins and Lindsey Hunter to Boston. Nice trade.

    The Warriors got Baron Davis for the immortal Speedy Claxton and future Hall-of-Famer Dale Davis.

    Where is the outrage?
    Where is the outrage?

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    i think the NBA would be better if they shorten their playoff format to the one game elimination format like NCAA, NFL, Soccer, Euroleague. There's too many in games and it really bores the casual fans. I think it would make the games more intense, hearts pound like muh er, nuts shribble, and higher ratings.

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    i think the NBA would be better if they shorten their playoff format to the one game elimination format like NCAA, NFL, Soccer, Euroleague. There's too many in games and it really bores the casual fans. I think it would make the games more intense, hearts pound like muh er, nuts shribble, and higher ratings.
    And what? Charge 10,000 a ticket to make up the revenue? Not goig to happen.

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    i think the NBA would be better if they shorten their playoff format to the one game elimination format like NCAA, NFL, Soccer, Euroleague. There's too many in games and it really bores the casual fans. I think it would make the games more intense, hearts pound like muh er, nuts shribble, and higher ratings.
    That would be terrible. You would have mediocre teams like the Raptors winning the le because they happened to be on a hot streak for 4 games.

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    I don't know whats worse - seeing the Lakers AND the Celtics in the Finals, or having to barrack for Kobe because theres no way I want to see Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett win the championship.
    Makes me want to puke.

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    This is pretty sad hearing all these Spurs fans cry about conspiracies. Did you guys think the league was fixed last year when they handed over the Spurs-Suns series to you guys even though the Suns were the better team. As a Laker fan I should have believed that the league was fixed those 4 years you guys won the championship? Maybe the league is only fixed every other year since you guys dont repeat.....I think the Spurs were in collusion with the Sonics to have Kurt Thomas handed over to the Spurs for free...PJ Carlisimo was told to release Barry by POP? Does that sound right? Stop embarrasing yourselves....you cant win every year so dont blame the league...if the league was fixed then they would rather have seen the SUNS in the finals last year and they would have rather have seen the Lakers play The Suns in the western conference Finals this year to have Shaq vs Kobe...so all this conspiracy stuff is just sore loser talk


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    As a Laker fan I should have believed that the league was fixed those 4 years you guys won the championship? Maybe the league is only fixed every other year since you guys dont repeat.....I think the Spurs were in collusion with the Sonics to have Kurt Thomas handed over to the Spurs for free...PJ Carlisimo was told to release Barry by POP? Does that sound right?
    It actually does sound like fans of other teams, yes.

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    Jerry West trading Pau to the Lakers. Kevin McHale trading Garnett to the Celtics. It happens. The Spurs have been lucky with ping pong balls, but whenever u trade scraps for all-star players you are going to win.
    You whiny, jealous . I challenge you to prove the so-called collusion. Come on, dastrey - PROVE IT! Right, you can't, so just like all you other whiny, jealous es, you lash out because it makes you feel good.

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    So a few days go by and I feel the same .

    It's no wonder Lakerfan will croak loud every chance he gets. For one he is still thinks they won in 2004 and two trying to imagine the garbage they are going to take if they happen to win this Finals, after all the heat they give on 1999 being some kind of tainted thing. Freaking bimbos make 1999 look like a float in their circus.

    My problem is complex yet I try to simplify it by reasoning facts with doubt.

    For instance:

    a- Yes Barry was fouled, and it's like pissing on the fire making a public we're sorry we didn't call it announcement the next day
    b- Yes Fishers shot hit the rim, thus the shot clock violation called gave us 2 points, and put us in the position for Barry to get fouled in the first place

    That's reasoning my friend. That is a fan hard at work trying to position himself for some slapping if need be.

    I just try to keep the focus on legit situations. Sunsfan cried last year at their own misdoing. Often moaned for the crooked ref who let the Spurs win, when in fact they came back on the Lakers in the first round all because of that ref. Don't even start Lakerfan... just shut the up for a change. You lost 2004 and so did we.

    Just why Crawfish was allowed to ref our games in these playoffs was a curve ball from .

    Secondly, after the first incident in NO with him poking Pop and starting once again, why did the league not just remove him from our games? Trying to maintain an argument with the rebuttal of it wouldn't be fair to other teams if he didn't ref our games but did all other teams.. mainly because he does not have the problem with your team or star slash franchise slash nba legend player. He has an agenda on the Spurs and had a hand in giving us the most difficult time playing against a talented teams in the playoffs in both series.

    That being said I will stress the importance of one thing here folks. San Antonio ing sucked. We could not have ed up any worse to make Joey smile and squeeze a turd out with a cigar in his mouth knowing we went fishing. The Spurs due to fatigue, injuries, and mental instability playing a superior team even if by which their talent was gained by cheating or not. You can hang your hat on Manu Ginobili. He has a bald spot and wears number twenty. I hope Argentina gets flat owned and he comes back to SA fresh. He needs to get his together and not play so emotional as he has before. I have never seen a player self destruct as he did in these playoffs.

    Moving forward we either draft Brandon Rush or I quit being a Spurs fan. But not really.

    As stated previously the NBA got what they wanted. It's just too bad whoever wins will be more asterisk than the word itself by NBA fans outside of Boston and LA.

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    My problem is complex yet I try to simplify it by reasoning facts with doubt.

    For instance:

    a- Yes Barry was fouled, and it's like pissing on the fire making a public we're sorry we didn't call it announcement the next day
    b- Yes Fishers shot hit the rim, thus the shot clock violation called gave us 2 points, and put us in the position for Barry to get fouled in the first place
    .

    c- Tony Parker's layup in the last minute was cleanly blocked by Odom prior to hitting the backboard, yet SA awarded 2 points

    d- Manu Ginobili's foot was clearly on the line on his 3 pointer that should have been ruled a 2 point basket.

    And those are just the bad calls vs LA in the last minute. I won't even mention Duncan's five step dunk in the first half or the fact that the horrid refs gave your team at least three blatant flops called charging in the game while calling the Lakers doing the SAME EXACT THING for blocking.

    The refs were the only reason you were even close in that game. Lakers led start to finish and if it was impartially called, would have won by 15-20 points.

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    i got tired of reading the BS in your post... got to about the 3rd paragraph before i had to stop reading. you sir are a cat(replace with derogatory comment). who the cares what you think or not think concerning how you feel about the nba, conspiracies, etc. no one!

    only morons think everyone around them are in complete shock at the bs you are spewing and actually think we care if you stop watching the nba or stop liking us all. in reality you are a speck in this vast community of nba(spurs) fans. your voice unheard!

    ps: you don't like the nba no longer? good move on... you don't like us here at ST? good move on... you wanna and moan some more? good MOVE ON!

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    c- Tony Parker's layup in the last minute was cleanly blocked by Odom prior to hitting the backboard, yet SA awarded 2 points

    d- Manu Ginobili's foot was clearly on the line on his 3 pointer that should have been ruled a 2 point basket.

    And those are just the bad calls vs LA in the last minute. I won't even mention Duncan's five step dunk in the first half or the fact that the horrid refs gave your team at least three blatant flops called charging in the game while calling the Lakers doing the SAME EXACT THING for blocking.

    The refs were the only reason you were even close in that game. Lakers led start to finish and if it was impartially called, would have won by 15-20 points.
    I was talking about the Spurs/Lakers series that happened last week.

    You are talking out of your ass about that didn't happen.

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    i got tired of reading the BS in your post... got to about the 3rd paragraph before i had to stop reading. you sir are a cat(replace with derogatory comment). who the cares what you think or not think concerning how you feel about the nba, conspiracies, etc. no one!

    only morons think everyone around them are in complete shock at the bs you are spewing and actually think we care if you stop watching the nba or stop liking us all. in reality you are a speck in this vast community of nba(spurs) fans. your voice unheard!

    ps: you don't like the nba no longer? good move on... you don't like us here at ST? good move on... you wanna and moan some more? good MOVE ON!
    Obviously you care enough to read and reply with 3 small paragraphs.
    You are saying I stopped watching the NBA, not me. I am not watching the Finals is my point.

    See.. that's where people like this lose me and their point. They find such disgust that in their reply they can't even get correct to make a point. Nobody said anything about not liking somebody or whatever else dumb mumbo jumbo you want to kick around.

    Stupid you finally get balls enough on this screen name to reply to me? Seriously. Wasting my time on that.

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    Stupid you finally get balls enough on this screen name to reply to me? Seriously. Wasting my time on that.
    balls enough to reply? hahaha. get over yourself.

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    I was talking about the Spurs/Lakers series that happened last week.

    You are talking out of your ass about that didn't happen.
    Now you are just talking stupid.

    Check out the replay of the game sometime, all of my statements are utter fact and completely correct.

    As usual!

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