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    By 2010, the NBA might have adjusted rookie scales for players coming out of international professional leagues. It's not that the Splitter/Spurs situation will demand it, but, instead the diminishing dollar.
    I don't see how the NBA could change the CBA in 2010 while the current CBA runs until 2011.

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    Unfortunately, Isiah Thomas is no longer employed.
    But Steve Kerr is.

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    I don't see how the NBA could change the CBA in 2010 while the current CBA runs until 2011.
    Bruno, I can't argue against that. You're right.

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    Bonner + Splitter rights and our pick for higher pick? top 10? top15?
    This is exactly the rumor on the Rockets side that Morey is interested in trading draft picks for Splitter's rights.

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    Splitter has less value than a late second round pick at this point. If he extends in Europe for two years, chances are he's never coming over. His rookie scale contract will stay the same while the contract he can get in Europe will just keep getting bigger. This year, Europe could offer him eight times as much money. In two years, they will probably be able to offer him 12-15 times as much money.

    If he fell to the end of the first round when he was promising he had only one more year left in Europe, his value is pretty much zero if he signs a two-year extension ... especially since he probably will just decide to remain in Europe forever.

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    Splitter has less value than a late second round pick at this point. If he extends in Europe for two years, chances are he's never coming over. His rookie scale contract will stay the same while the contract he can get in Europe will just keep getting bigger. This year, Europe could offer him eight times as much money. In two years, they will probably be able to offer him 12-15 times as much money.

    If he fell to the end of the first round when he was promising he had only one more year left in Europe, his value is pretty much zero if he signs a two-year extension ... especially since he probably will just decide to remain in Europe forever.
    So, in your words, it would be best to forget about Tiago and just move on.

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    If he's never going to leave, why didn't he sign a longer extension?

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    If he's never going to leave, why didn't he sign a longer extension?
    i think TAU wanted him to follow Scola's example and arrive tot he NBA on his prime... in two year he should only be better and he'd have made enough money for him to take whatever they give him to pay the bills for a year or two

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    If Tau had their way he would have signed a ten-year extension.

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    If he's never going to leave, why didn't he sign a longer extension?
    because he can use the threat of the NBA to get an even BIGGER deal as he enters his prime years.

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    If he's never going to leave, why didn't he sign a longer extension?
    Flexibility. Europe contracts are getting bigger year after year. What may be a lot now probably won't be that much in two years. Plus, Splitter knows his biggest bargaining chip is the NBA. As long as he keeps the Spurs an option, he can keep getting big money from Tau.

    Besides, with contracts not being guaranteed in Europe, long term contracts actually favor the team. Short term contracts are preferred over there. There really is no benefit to a long term contract because the team can waive you if you suck or get hurt.

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    So, in your words, it would be best to forget about Tiago and just move on.
    He isn't the one.

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    The nonguarantee part makes sense, but I actually think Euro salaries could plateau at some point since the run-up is being driven mainly by one team.

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    Trade rights to splitter, with udoka, bonner, and barry to ________ for top 10 draft pick

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    If I were Splitter, the fact that U.S. currency has devalued considerably since the 2007 Draft might have played a role. No one wants to be paid in Monopoly money...

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    "U.S. currency has devalued considerably since the 2007 Draft"

    duh, with US inflation now at 10%+ by honest (ie, non-Repug) economists, Tiago shouldn't expect the Euro and US$ to come equal valuation for a long time, certainly not within 2 years.

    All US imports will be inflatedly expensive for the forseeable future.

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    "U.S. currency has devalued considerably since the 2007 Draft"

    duh, with US inflation now at 10%+ by honest (ie, non-Repug) economists, Tiago shouldn't expect the Euro and US$ to come equal valuation for a long time, certainly not within 2 years.

    All US imports will be inflatedly expensive for the forseeable future.
    Exactly, which is why he is not coming to the NBA...

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    I think our front office have a lovefest for each other. Rockets/Spurs. It sorta makes sense for the Rockets to give up draft picks for Splitter's rights. Rockets do not see any reason in the forseeable future to make any use of draft picks. A mid 17-18 first rounder will not make any difference to the Rockets. The roster is basically set. They won't be making any major changes with rookies. The only thing the Rockets want to do is get bigger at the 3 spot and they want a good backup for T-Mac at shooting guard. Getting another PG is a luxury but not a necessity.

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    If there isn't big changes between currencies value, coming in NBA will be even less interesting for Splitter in 2010 than in 2008.
    He should get bigger contracts from European teams and the main attraction of the NBA is the second contract. If he comes in 2010, he will be older when he will sign his second contract than if he comes in 2008 and will get a smaller second contract.

    The only factor that could push to come in NBA is that he will have more money in the bank with the two years big contract he get from Tau and could be more ready to come in NBA.

    Anyway, I want Pop to go in Spain or to phone to Splitter and say :
    "The deal was the NBA in 2008. It wasn't the NBA when it arranges you. Sign an extension with Tau and you will never play in NBA. To keep your NBA rights, we will offer you each year 80% of the rookie scale and if you sign this offer one year, I promise you you will rot on the bench for 4 years with this small salary."

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    A mid 17-18 first rounder will not make any difference to the Rockets.
    More evidence you are simply talking out of your ass.

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    More evidence you are simply talking out of your ass.
    At least I'm not blowing it out of mine like you are

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    I say keep Splitter... there is still a chance that the plan is to buy him out next year after one year in Spain.

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    I'm all for keeping Splitter in Europe forever out of spite as much as the next guy, but if he re-ups and his rights are worth anything substantive (like packaged with 26 and moving up in the draft enough to get Batum or Joe Alexander et al) then his rights have to moved.

    The window for winning is Tim Duncan's career window. If moving Splitter can in any way help the Spurs in the next 2-3 years win a le then move his germanic-brazillian ass.

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    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
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    Anyway, I want Pop to go in Spain or to phone to Splitter and say :
    "The deal was the NBA in 2008. It wasn't the NBA when it arranges you. Sign an extension with Tau and you will never play in NBA. To keep your NBA rights, we will offer you each year 80% of the rookie scale and if you sign this offer one year, I promise you you will rot on the bench for 4 years with this small salary."
    I agree, but I wouldn't even offer the rot on the bench. I'd say "we'll play you in D -league. You're NBA contract bargaining chip we'll make sure has ZERO value in negotiating Euro contracts. You lied and we won't reward you for it."

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