The Official Tiago Splitter Trade Value Thread

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At least I'm not blowing it out of mine like you are

So who gets injured next year, Yao, TMac or both?

[kaji157]

I'm all for keeping Splitter in Europe forever out of spite as much as the next guy, but if he re-ups and his rights are worth anything substantive (like packaged with 26 and moving up in the draft enough to get Batum or Joe Alexander et al) then his rights have to moved.

The window for winning is Tim Duncan's career window. If moving Splitter can in any way help the Spurs in the next 2-3 years win a le then move his germanic-brazillian ass.

Completely true, i don´t want Splitter in two years, TD has probably a max of 4 years in him, so 2 years, plus one while he adapts, no sense for the Spurs to wait so long for one year shot, better trade him for whoever offers us picks, if we can package our second rounders to get a first rounder great, if we need to use our first and some cheap contract (booner, vaughn) to get a better pick 15-20 do it.

I´ve already told in other posts that Morey wants him, so we can look for ways to get the Rockets 17 pick, i think we have to offer our 2 second rounders and not our first rounder, offer it if necessary but it cannot be our first offer.

Now if the Rockets land Splitter i will have serious doubts about the capacity of our front office.

[Indazone]

If the Rockets pick this year it's going to be one of these guys. Which I would assume would be the same players available to the Spurs. Rockets would likely pickup 7'2" Roy Hibbert if there is no trade for Splitters rights.

Hibbert
Hickson
CDR
Hendrix
Ibaka
Ellington

[bigdog]

Splitter. Let's trade him.

He had his chance, just like Javtokas did. He's young, and he wants money. Well looks like he's getting his money.

I'd say we trade him to a team that is top 10-15 in the draft, tell them they can buyout Splitter's contract next year, and we can throw in a player and possibly a pick for either the draft pick, or a player and the draft pick.

[temujin]

There are people here who don't realize who is in the driving seat in the Splitter-Tau-Spurs triangle.

Spurs need to convince NOT threaten Splitter.

If they act like in the Scola affair, they are pretty much done for some time.

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Som weed Rockets' fan fantasizing about the Spurs making another stupid trade to the Rockets? What is that about?

[Tully365]

There are people here who don't realize who is in the driving seat in the Splitter-Tau-Spurs triangle.

Spurs need to convince NOT threaten Splitter.

If they act like in the Scola affair, they are pretty much done for some time.

I agree. The guy decided to stay in europe for another year or two and quadruple his earnings-- it's hard to hate him for that. But I imagine the way to get him over is to sign him to his rookie scale contract with the promise of picking up the option and adding a year with a big pay raise.... who knows, maybe him staying in Spain is a blessing in disguise-- if the Spurs draft for the present instead of the future, it's possible a young rookie could develop along with Mahinmi, and adding Splitter to that in 2010 could actually be the best possible scenario. This also leaves the Spurs with more cap space in 2010 to pursue Chris Bosh, who could be to Duncan what Duncan was to Robinson. Bosh is an unrestricted FA in 2010 and a Texas native....
This year: try to get Gomes, Pietrus, or Azubuike...
Interesting possibility: If Spurs sign Pietrus, and draft Batum, they'd have 4 French-speakers on the team, giving the Spur-haters more nonsense to complain about!

[spursfan98]

splitter skrewed us over! trade his rights! shame on him

[kaji157]

There are people here who don't realize who is in the driving seat in the Splitter-Tau-Spurs triangle.

Spurs need to convince NOT threaten Splitter.

If they act like in the Scola affair, they are pretty much done for some time.

In the Scola situation it was clear what happened, Spurs never offered any contract to him, he never declined any offer, he just "asked" for a Oberto type contract and Spurs gave that to Booner, Houston just went to offer what we gave Booner and Oberto and get him.

Plain simple.

[Bruno]

A little analogy:

Your girlfriend say you "Marry me! Marry me! My dream is to be your wife. I won't let you down."
You answer "Yes, I love you too. Let's go married."
So you work on the wedding and spend a lot of money for the food, place, music...
Two days before the wedding, she continues to say that being your wife is her dream...
One day before the wedding, you learn in a tabloid that she is now with Brad Pitt and won't marry with you. She hasn't even told you that the wedding was canceled.

So, what will be your reaction ?
A) You're ing pissed.
B) You forgive her. How can you blame her, Brad Pitt is way cuter than you.

[Indazone]

Som weed Rockets' fan fantasizing about the Spurs making another stupid trade to the Rockets? What is that about?

Well History is on our side.

[Mr. Body]

A little analogy:

Your girlfriend say you "Marry me! Marry me! My dream is to be your wife. I won't let you down."
You answer "Yes, I love you too. Let's go married."
So you work on the wedding and spend a lot of money for the food, place, music...
Two days before the wedding, she continues to say that being your wife is her dream...
One day before the wedding, you learn in a tabloid that she is now with Brad Pitt and won't marry with you. She hasn't even told you that the wedding was canceled.

So, what will be your reaction ?
A) You're ing pissed.
B) You forgive her. How can you blame her, Brad Pitt is way cuter than you.

You guys can get married in two years. (Not really.)

[tav1]

Splitter has less value than a late second round pick at this point. If he extends in Europe for two years, chances are he's never coming over. His rookie scale contract will stay the same while the contract he can get in Europe will just keep getting bigger. This year, Europe could offer him eight times as much money. In two years, they will probably be able to offer him 12-15 times as much money.

If he fell to the end of the first round when he was promising he had only one more year left in Europe, his value is pretty much zero if he signs a two-year extension ... especially since he probably will just decide to remain in Europe forever.

Alright, I buy that. So why would we hang on to him? Shouldn't we try to trade his rights?

[Man of Steel]

Although there is a two year deal for Splitter that Tau offered (don't know if he "officially accepted" or not), my understanding is that he can opt out of the second year.

[wildbill2u]

Will somebody come up with a reasonable explanation of why:

1. Splitter won't be as valuable to a Euro team in two years as now? Why would his salary go down instead of up if he develops more as a center?

2. He would be willing to take less money in two yeas than he can get in Europe and sign for the rookie salary cap maximum that he and the Spurs are tied to?

Unless the NBA pulls its head out of its ass and realizes it is in a bidding war with Euro teams that aren't bound by salary caps, you're not going to see players like Splitter over here.

[Indazone]

Yes I agree, it's time for the NBA to change how they view the European Pros. They have to look at them more like the ABA/NBA days.

[exstatic]

F Splitter. He is now irrelevant. I don't care what happens to him as long as he never dons the Black and Silver.

[BOHOLANO#21]

Well History is on our side.

what history are you talking about? T-mac teams won't make out of the 1st round?

[spursfan98]

F Splitter. He is now irrelevant. I don't care what happens to him as long as he never dons the Black and Silver.

+1 thank u Splitter sckrewed us over and he now has no right to come back here after getting that huge paycheck

[mystargtr34]

Why trade a splitter.... his value is 0.

You want to give him up for peanuts now... improve our draft position by 1 spot.... and give up a guy who could be a quality starting Center in the league.

ANd besides, he has a reduced buyout of 500k after the first year... its not all doom and gloom.

[spurs2112]

First, I heard (or read) that he is considering staying that he hasn't officially signed anything yet. Maybe he wants to see what the Spurs are really going to offer him or he wants them to lick his bean bag a little just to see how interested they really are in him. I read on another blog that one of the reason he's thinking of staying is he didn't like the idea of being behind Duncan, which is dumb because who wouldn't want to play next to the best PF on the planet.

[exstatic]

Why trade a splitter.... his value is 0.

You want to give him up for peanuts now... improve our draft position by 1 spot.... and give up a guy who could be a quality starting Center in the league.

ANd besides, he has a reduced buyout of 500k after the first year... its not all doom and gloom.

If he isn't coming this year, he isn't coming, not in one year, not in two. It's obviously about the money, and that will NEVER improve. The gap will only grow wider. You can write off Tiago Splitter.

[mystargtr34]

If he isn't coming this year, he isn't coming, not in one year, not in two. It's obviously about the money, and that will NEVER improve. The gap will only grow wider. You can write off Tiago Splitter.

Things change... theres no garuantee the difference will get wider...

Staying in Tau one for one, maybe two years will allow him to get paid well, making him come to the NBA less of a financial risk... maybe he just wants that security of already being paid well before he comes over and swallows thw rookie scale. He ha sa buyout of just 500k after one season...

[GSH]

A little analogy:

Your girlfriend say you "Marry me! Marry me! My dream is to be your wife. I won't let you down."
You answer "Yes, I love you too. Let's go married."
So you work on the wedding and spend a lot of money for the food, place, music...
Two days before the wedding, she continues to say that being your wife is her dream...
One day before the wedding, you learn in a tabloid that she is now with Brad Pitt and won't marry with you. She hasn't even told you that the wedding was canceled.

So, what will be your reaction ?
A) You're ing pissed.
B) You forgive her. How can you blame her, Brad Pitt is way cuter than you.

A boy has to to a school report on the difference between theory and reality. He's confused, so he asks his father for help. The dad says, "OK, son. Watch carefully."

He calls the mother of the family into the room, and asks her, "Would you sleep with the man next door for a million dollars?" She thinks for a bit, and finally says, "Yes. Because of all the things we could do for our family with that kind of money." The mom leaves the room.

The dad calls the boy's sister into the room, and asks if she would sleep with the man next door for a million dollars. Without even thinking about it, she says, "You bet I would." Then she leaves the room.

The dad turns to the son and says, "See the difference? In theory, we're both millionaires. In reality, we live with a couple of s."

In theory, we still own rights to Splitter two years from now. In reality, we drafted a Euro- . If he continues to do well in the Euro league, he won't ever be willing to play for what we will be willing to give him. If he doesn't progress, he'll want to come here and get paid more than he is worth.

[Tully365]

I think some of the anger directed towards Splitter might be unfair-- some of the blame has to go to the Spurs. Tiago was Luis Scola's teammate for a couple of years when Scola actually wanted to join the Spurs and they wouldn't bring him over. This situation created a big controversy in Spain and Scola and others asked why was he drafted if he wasn't going to be brought over... Scola's agent accused the Spurs of "holding Luis hostage" in the Spanish newspapers... Splitter is probably just trying to get the biggest payday possible, which is what most people would do if they were in his shoes. Remember, he's only 23. Maybe he wants one really good guaranteed contract before he tries to tackle the NBA. He might be a little scared too-- he played against Bargnani in Europe, who everyone thought would excel in the USA...