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    Tony averages 34 minutes a game. When he's out he'll either be replaced by Barry or Vaughn. You know new players don't get much playing time unless they fill a dire need.

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    thats because we have sorry backups. if we have pargo or duhon or chalmers that might happen at first but we will have them adjusted to the system quickly. we are good at doing that with younger guys. the reason tony plays almost the whole game in the playoffs is beacause none of our PGs have fresh legs and can score at all

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    thats because we have sorry backups. if we have pargo or duhon or chalmers that might happen at first but we will have them adjusted to the system quickly. we are good at doing that with younger guys. the reason tony plays almost the whole game in the playoffs is beacause none of our PGs have fresh legs and can score at all
    There are other ways to address a back up point. Remember, if the Spurs draft a swing it with eye toward replacing Bowen in the next year or two. There is no need to replace Parker. Parker's departure isn't imminent. Batum is a much better pick than Chalmers. If not Batum, than one of the three SGs, Lee, Rush, or CDR.

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    Tony plays almost the whole game because he is good. The backup point guard position isn't a necessity when you have Tony Parker starting. And Manu and Barry can also play the 1 spot. Drafting a point guard will be only for the future, not for next season.

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    other than parker i don't think young players get a chance to play with coach pop.

    team slovenia: rasho, beno
    team argentina: manu, fab
    team france: tony, mahinmi, batum?

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    Tony plays almost the whole game because he is good. The backup point guard position isn't a necessity when you have Tony Parker starting. And Manu and Barry can also play the 1 spot. Drafting a point guard will be only for the future, not for next season.
    As players get older their minutes should be conserved. Just because Tony's young doesn't mean he should play the entire game. Even though he sucked for most of the time he was here, Beno did allow Pop to spell Tony for a bit. A backup PG IS a priority, but not before getting the potential starting swingman. Besides the Spurs can pickup a backup PG in either the 2nd round or from teams that have a surplus (i.e. Memphis)

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    there are plenty of good swingmen in the free agent list too. and if we draft a swing we shouldnt draft batum we should get rush or CDR

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    In order:
    1. Batum
    2. Douglas-Roberts
    3. Rush

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    1. Douglas Roberts
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    This is a potential "Tiago Splitter Draft" situation.

    Guy has been on the radar for a while, but all the luster has worn off him as a draft prospect. He's athletic, but can't jump out of the gym. He does a few things well, but nothing great. He played solid but not great in the Euroleague.

    I think there's a chance that guys like Bill Walker and CDR move up draft boards and this guy quietly slips until all the sudden....he sits there at #26. Spurs would be fools not to take him.

    Of course, he could also get picked up in the teens.

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    Batum will probably do the same thing splitter is doin to us now

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    Spurs shouldn't draft for immediate need. Even if Batum is a couple years off from contributing, there's no reason to pick someone like CDR ahead of him.

    Spurs should draft talent and use free agency to get help at a need position.

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    Batum will probably do the same thing splitter is doin to us now
    Spurs wouldn't make the same mistake twice. They'd bring him over and send him to the D-League. Imagine Batum and Mahinmi on the Toros together....sick.

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    Spurs shouldn't draft for immediate need. Even if Batum is a couple years off from contributing, there's no reason to pick someone like CDR ahead of him.
    I agree CDR is better but we do need him for immediate need thats why we will probably draft a swing

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    Batum is gonna be a free agent in Europe. He's not under any contract.

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    and then someone in europe offers him 8 mil while we offer him 700k

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    That was just 2 scenarios. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen with every single European in the future.

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    and then someone in europe offers him 8 mil while we offer him 700k
    he said he will be in the nba next year

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    splitter did too

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    I agree CDR is better but we do need him for immediate need thats why we will probably draft a swing
    Not sure why all the love for CDR....seems pretty average to me. Kind of like Aaron Afflalo last year. He's primarily a slashing guard, but he doesn't have the bulk or athleticism to be as effective on the pro level.

    Taking Batum over that guy is a no-brainer.

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    Not sure why all the love for CDR....seems pretty average to me. Kind of like Aaron Afflalo last year. He's primarily a slashing guard, but he doesn't have the bulk or athleticism to be as effective on the pro level.

    Taking Batum over that guy is a no-brainer.
    batum is surely no more than average

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    Batum isn't Splitter, because there's no way he gets a "superstar" deal for an amount greatly above the rookie scale. He's not that productive for his team.

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    You're not addressing the main point, however. You assert Euros are taking a hit in reputation. As always it's a case-by-case basis. Gallinari has risen, Batum fallen. Otherwise there is a host of very young, unproven big men. Next year you'll have Ricky Rubio perhaps getting a top three slot. There are no trends here.
    You aren't following the draft very closely if you haven't noticed a Euro backlash. This year, if only Gallinari and Batum are picked, that'd be the fewest international selections in a first round since 1997. That's not an accident.

    NBA GMs have always been fickle. There hasn't been a good international first round pick since 2004. Couple that with the growing difficulty in getting players out of Europe and those are the reasons why GMs aren't being as risky with international prospects. If Bargnani, Jianlian, Belinelli, Sene, etc. had actually produced early on, Gallinari would be a hotter name and Batum would be a lottery pick. On top of that, there would be other international players that GMs would want to take a flyer on.

    This is definitely a down cycle in the NBA's confidence of the international player. But as is always the case, all it'll take is the next Nowitzki or Gasol or Parker to be selected in the first round and then GMs will once again be all over the international market.

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    batum is surely no more than average
    Except that he's 19 and has a MUCH higher ceiling than CDR, because of his athleticism and high basketball IQ.

    CDR is most likely an average NBA player when he first steps on the court and will remain as such throughout his career.

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    batum is surely no more than average
    He's a long 2 that can slash and can shoot the 3. CDR can't shoot the 3.

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