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    Turiaf is the Lakers best shotblocker and post defender outside of Bynum.
    Or he would be if Gasol wasn't better at both. Shotblocking, you can kind of make a case for; it's easy for a guy who plays 15 minutes a game to hack away, which is what Ronny does, but you can't really extrapolate that to starter minutes and foul management. Post defense, absolutely not; the series against San Antonio is a testament to that. Ronny tries really hard but he's very small and not all that athletic.

    Kwame Brown would be a good addition to the Spurs if he weren't dumber than a box of rocks. He's a solid man defender but has no conception of a defensive system, which is why his Adonis-looking ass is no better a shotblocker than Fabricio Oberto. Still, he has legit center size and can rebound, so if you can't find anyone else and Kurt Thomas decides to retire or go elsewhere, he'd be a decent option of last resort.

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    I don't think he's that smart, from what I've seen of him in the last three years.

    Good shooter, but that's it. He's already overrated before even breaking free from his "scrub" status.

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    We trade Beno for nothing and now we want Sasha, we should have kept Beno.

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    Thank god you aren't running things.

    Turiaf is the Lakers best shotblocker and post defender outside of Bynum. Can back up the 4 AND 5, can hit the mid-range jumper. The Lakers toughest front court player. Good unselfish passer. Heart and soul of the bench. Good friends with Kobe. It would be re ed to let him walk. Ronny is a keeper.

    wow that is the 1st time i agree with u on something.

    Yes im suprised by how many Lakers fans thing Ronny needs to be cut. He is great backup to play 10-15 a game. Would he get more than 10 mil for 3 years somewhere else? dont think so, so im hoping hes stay. Sasha should get the MLE and im hoping Lakers keep him too

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    Sasha sure as isn't worth the full MLE. The Lakers need to resign him but he can be easily replaced for 2-3 million dollars cheaper if worse comes to worst.
    Sasha has been with the Lakers for three years.

    Therefore, he qualifies for the "Larry Bird" exception to the salary cap, which allows a team to re-sign its own players to any amount (subject to the max) even if they are over the cap.

    Consequently, there is no MLE in discussing Sasha. The Lakers no doubt will tender him the $2.6 million qualifying offer, or possibly just skip the drama, and sign a regular full-length contract.

    Ronny Turiaf qualifies as an "early Bird" exception to the cap. While it is a little more complicated, the end result is that the Lakers will likely keep both.

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    2007-2008 season

    Vujacic- 8.8 PPG (.45% FG, .43% 3point), 1.0 APG, 2.1 RPG

    17.8 minutes per game


    Bowen- 6.0 PPG (.40% FG, .41% 3point) 1.1 APG, 2.9 RPG

    30.2 minutes per game

    We're keeping Sasha.

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    You don't understand Bowen's role

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    Not intrested in seeing Vujacic in a Spurs uniform. Other than youth he brings nothing to the table that tells me he can play "Spurs" ball.

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    I am not saying I want the Lakers to get rid of Turiaf, I am saying it is real money being paid out and the Lakers are already way over the cap with more pain to come when they pay Bynum.

    So something has to give, not everyone is going to get their money.

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    Just go out and get Bonzi Wells isn't he a free agent this summer? If you can't beat the SpursKiller go out and get him to play for you.

    I think Bonzi or Diop would be good fits with SA.

    Bonzi can score and Diop is underrated, he is very active.

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    While I know Buss doesnt want to have a roster full of highly paid players (Knicks), I know he isnt going to let Ronny or Sasha go for the sake of the luxary tax. The Lakers have the rights to a majority of these players and it's simply up to Buss if he wants to keep them or not. Sasha will likely get an offer of 5-6 million as will Ronny. Now while the luxary tax is not that big of an issue with Buss, he isnt going to dramatically overpay to keep either of these 2. Im saying like 8-12 million per year would be insane money to keep these guys around but no other team in their right mind would be that stupid to sign those players for that cash.

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    No thanks. On both counts. Turiaf is not very good.
    I agree.

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    I hope the Spurs don't make a run at Sasha.

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    I hope the Spurs don't make a run at Sasha.
    One can only hope. I'd hate so see Sasha go. If he "blows" this series and produces CACA, it may be a possibility.

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    Spurs fans get confused when a player has a few good games against the Spurs in the playoffs. Half of Spurs nation wanted the Spurs to throw the MLE at Sasha Pavlovic last summer.

    I agree with a team going after a player because he lit them up, but Sasha Pavlovic has a lot of potential. I would definitely throw at least the same amount of money at him as we dumped on Bonner.

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    I hate this dude he looks like a freakin girl.
    NO THANKS

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    don't you guys follow history?

    players tend to play way above their norm before their contract year, then get paid then regress tremendously.

    Say no to sasha. He plays a good role on lakers, any other team I think he loses his appeal.

    We get after Finley for not driving the ball, just wait til you see I can't drive for anything Vujajic.

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    I am not saying I want the Lakers to get rid of Turiaf, I am saying it is real money being paid out and the Lakers are already way over the cap with more pain to come when they pay Bynum.

    So something has to give, not everyone is going to get their money.
    Jerry Buss is paying Phil Jackson double what any other coach in the league gets.

    He no longer has to pay Shaq - who was grinding out $30,000,000 a year.

    The Lakers are not limited by salary cap issues with their own players (see above).

    Sasha and Ronny are both bench players. Consequently, the cost to sign them will not be exorbitant. Odom's contract ($14.5 million) expires after next season. Therefore, he has a valuable expiring contract trade-wise, or they can re-sign him as needed.

    The Lakers are in great shape financially, and personnel-wise for a nice, long dynasty run.

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    Jerry Buss is paying Phil Jackson double what any other coach in the league gets.

    He no longer has to pay Shaq - who was grinding out $30,000,000 a year.

    The Lakers are not limited by salary cap issues with their own players (see above).

    Sasha and Ronny are both bench players. Consequently, the cost to sign them will not be exorbitant. Odom's contract ($14.5 million) expires after next season. Therefore, he has a valuable expiring contract trade-wise, or they can re-sign him as needed.

    The Lakers are in great shape financially, and personnel-wise for a nice, long dynasty run.
    They are not in great shape financially, they just happen to not care about paying a lot on luxury tax, but if they resign Sasha and Turiaf both contracts can be done because o both Bird rights BUT the salary will count against the Luxury tax, the exception means you can sign them but it doesn´t mean they wont count.

    If they sign turiaf and sasha for a combined 6 millions they will actually be paying 12 millions because 6 will go on as taxes.

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    They are not in great shape financially, they just happen to not care about paying a lot on luxury tax, but if they resign Sasha and Turiaf both contracts can be done because o both Bird rights BUT the salary will count against the Luxury tax, the exception means you can sign them but it doesn´t mean they wont count.

    If they sign turiaf and sasha for a combined 6 millions they will actually be paying 12 millions because 6 will go on as taxes.
    What you say is true. But it's not my problem to pay the luxury tax.

    The point is that the Lakers can re-sign all their current players, including Sasha.

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    What you say is true. But it's not my problem to pay the luxury tax.

    The point is that the Lakers can re-sign all their current players, including Sasha.
    Take him he sux

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    The Machine shuts down Ginobili and Spurs fans make a phonebook full of excuses for Manu. Suddenly, Spurs fan wants the guy who shut Manu down. Hmmmm.

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    The Machine shuts down Ginobili and Spurs fans make a phonebook full of excuses for Manu. Suddenly, Spurs fan wants the guy who shut Manu down. Hmmmm.
    i dont want him. the fact that u call him machine makes me laugh
    he didnt shut manu down. didnt you notice manu had been playing not so well before going against sasha? he had injuries that slowed him down

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    Hope the Laker sign him before the mob gets to him. That y ass 3 pointer broke the spread and cost gamblers millions. Guido's a' comin.

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    Hope the Laker sign him before the mob gets to him. That y ass 3 pointer broke the spread and cost gamblers millions. Guido's a' comin.
    every laker is y. its part of being on that team. its a tradition. for example dfish made a luckyass shot and now he thinks hes the

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