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He's not really 6'7". So basically, ya'll would like an undersized shooting guard that is not uber athletic and not known for good D.
prahps.
Caveat: CDR can get his own shot on the college level. I'm not sure he has the athleticism, speed, or strength to create his own shot on the NBA level.
Don't get me wrong...I agree with you in principle that the Spurs need to get a player that can create off the dribble, but I'm just not sure this is the guy.
He's not really 6'7". So basically, ya'll would like an undersized shooting guard that is not uber athletic and not known for good D.
prahps.
Sounds like another Chris Carawell.
i think CDR will be able to get to the rim in the NBA. probably not at will, but he'll make teams pay on switches and mismatches.
there's no way to know exactly how well his game will translate to the NBA. so maybe he will struggle to create his own shot in the pros. but you can compare that to a guy like rush - who couldn't even create his own shot in college.
I saw him in person, and he's at least 6'6", which is tall enough at the 2. The measurements will be published soon, but this is what he has to say about it:
You've been listed at 6-5 earlier in your career, to 6-6, and now even 6-7 on Memphis' official website. What is your true height?
I was 6'5 in high school and my freshman year at Memphis I was 6'6. Our trainer measured me at the beginning of this season and I was 6'7. I won't be 21 until January 8th so I'm still growing. I'm a legit 6'7 now.
I don't know where you get the "not known for good D" information. That may not be the thing people talk about first, but that's understandable considering the numbers he put up. So he's not a defensive specialist. Memphis had a very good defense and he was pretty damned effective on that end of the floor.
It's always difficult to know how a player will translate to the NBA, but he's a hard worker, and seems willing to do whatever is asked.
Some years it may be OK to go after a "diamond in the rough", and guys with "huge upside potential". Right now, the Spurs need to fill some roster spots with players who can turn in quality minutes. They don't need any more players who never live up to their tremendous upside, or who we never get signed.
I doubt he will be there at 26. If he is, then he's on top of my board. Spurs need a player that can create their own shot.
I doubt we get him, but he would be a great fit.
you never know, acouple of mock drafts have the hornets taking him.
i dont high on him, his strength in college was his slashing ability but i dont think that he have enough strength and athletic ability to finish around the basket in the NBA.
I like his potential, but I don't think he's ready to contribute a whole lot to a team right now. I don't think he's as good off the dribble as some of you say, but he should be decent. let's see what happens.
I like him. He's a slasher and has a nice mid range jumper. I think he would be able to contribute right away.
Anyone in this thread who says he doesn't play defense might as well just admit that you haven't watched Memphis or CDR play a game.
He can play great D, has a huge wingspan to work with, and can create his own shot (something the Spurs desperately need). Draft him and have Bowen teach him the tricks of the trade and you'd essentially have Bruce Bowen with handles and a more reliable jumper.
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it was that other cat on memphis that was the good lanky defender. CDR is a 6 foor 5 scorer and that we simply do not need.
You're right... we've got way too many scorers already.
You're right, we sure did fill up the hoop against LA and New Orleans....
Still wouldn't mind him at 26. He seems like a player who'd do better in games than in workouts.Chris Douglas-Roberts was reportedly “just OK” in the workout, which is similar feedback to what we’ve heard consistently over the past few weeks from different cities he’s been to. As we’ve discussed in the past, he’s not proven to be a great workout player, which might be pushing his terrific season with Memphis a little further out of teams’ minds.
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/
True. If his stock falls too far, that's a case of teams valuing the workout over the games.
He outplayed Rush in the championship game.
i dont see pop letting this guy play much....we cant afford another player in uniform shining the pine, we have to many already....get timmy some help and the rest of the team will be fine....imo
This is our guy, I think...
Also, watch highlights of him. He has the same exact crazy push/set shot Manu gets off sometimes when driving partway into the lane.
fwiw, Bob Kemp, an AZ radio personality and former national syndicated host who follows the NBA and NCAA closer than probably any everyday radio host anywhere, raves about CDR, and as of the Suns still being in the playoffs wanted the Suns to pick him at 15.
He's got the potential to be a poor man's Josh Howard (who doesn't disappear with the game on the line).
Witness Memphis' NCAA tournament performances the last few years (even before Rose showed up).
ESPN's Draft Prospect Review of CD-R
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...draftyear=2008
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Shooting Guard (Rank: #27) | 6-6, 195 | Age: 21
Memphis (Junior)
Hometown: Detroit
Positives: Smooth swingman who excels at getting to the basket. Good quickness. Good at breaking down defenders off the dribbler. Good finisher around the basket. Good midrange game. Good ball handler. Excellent basketball IQ. Wiry strong. Good defender who really can harass an opponent.
Draft Projection: Mid to late first round
Negatives: Needs to improve his long-range jump shot. He shot the ball consistently from 3-point range this year, but he didn't take a lot of them. Could add some bulk to his frame. For someone with such good ball skills, he rarely gives up the rock. A good athlete, but not a great one.
Summary: Douglas-Roberts is one of the more underrated players in the country. He really benefited from having Derrick Rose in the lineup with hm this year. It took some pressure off him as a go-to scorer and gave him a point guard who can set him up for easy shots. For someone so productive, scouts have been a little mixed on him. He's a likely mid-to-late first-round pick.
I don't see anybody that we can realistically get at 26 that has as good of a chance of not riding the bench all year. I still say this is the best shot at a player who can contribute minutes the first year.
A couple of stats that I haven't seen anyone mention are his True Shooting Percentage, and Effective Field Goal Percentage. His are both among the very best of the SG's in this draft. The guys who rate high in those stats are usually long-range bombers who put up tons of 3's. He isn't one of those. He can shoot the 3 ball, but he doesn't stand outside the arc and shoot away. He's just very damned efficient with his shots. Or to put it another way, he has a knack for putting the ball in the hole. If you've watched him play, you understand.
I think that part of his game will translate well enough into the NBA. I remember too many times this season when the Spurs would go into those scoring droughts, and it looked like nobody on the team wanted to take the shot. I don't think that would ever be a problem for this guy, because he knows he can knock them down. Having that on your team is a of an asset.
hopefully his offensive skills translate to the NBA if we take him. he could help out in the 6th man department and we can start ginobili. seeing that he is a slasher and likes to take the ball to the rim, he can fit ginobilis scoring role (although he doesnt have a 3point shot) and ginobili can start for us.
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