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Do you have a link to his page? I've tried to google it and failed (clearly google's fault and not mine).
Ford was the first to have Batum falling to the Spurs at 26. Needless to say I think he's full of .
2) General "draft buzz", a solid workout (20lbs lighter), and word from a K-State coach that the Spurs are one of the teams interested.
Don't forget that this kid was pegged for the lottery before his ACL injury and has taken a while to regain some of that elite athleticism.
3) Not sure I got the buzz with Dequan Cook, an undersized 2-guard that basically has one skill; to shoot....but , I trust that the Spurs FO has done much more scouting on these players than you or I have.
Bottom Line: It's only based on what I've read/heard, but Walker seems to be rising up draft boards (Ford has him at #22) and there appears to be interest from the Spurs.
Take it FWIW.
Do you have a link to his page? I've tried to google it and failed (clearly google's fault and not mine).
Ford was the first to have Batum falling to the Spurs at 26. Needless to say I think he's full of .
The assumption is that if Splitter signs now with Tau he'll be even less likely to pass up the money a couple of years from now. Someone, somewhere made a good point that Tau isn't that rich a club and they are swinging for the fences to get a Euroleague le with a young nucleus but they don't have the money ultimately to sustain with the big boys, like CSKA and Barcelona. Something like what Macabi did. Particularly true about not holding onto Splitter if he doesn't develop a lot more consistency. I don't think it's that much of a foregone conclusion he wouldn't be available in a couple of years that an NBA team might not take a flyer for a few draft slots, particularly if he pick is one they're not that anxious to keep.
Like a Marcus Williams - swing for the fence?
Naw, that was more like attempting to bunt for a base hit but then popping out to the catcher. Marcus Williams had the upside of Monty Williams. Bill Walker had Vince Carter upside before tearing his ACL for a second time. Now his potential isn't quite VC but it's up there.
Speaking of Chad Ford's column, he has Batum going to the Rockets right ahead of us. That is something they would like in Houston, the same thing we are looking for, a long small forward who can be in the rotation.
I wouldn't go by Ford like it's God's word or anything, but he talks to GMs and goes to the workouts just like the guys from DX and I'm sure NBAdraft.net.
Ford saw a good workout and heard the "buzz" on Walker, so he put him firmly in the first round. DX didn't see or hear the "buzz", but it's interesting to note he's now in the first round as well.
I'm not saying the Spurs will have to move up to draft him, but based on what I've read/heard, he might be a player that the Spurs feel is worth moving up to grab if they have to.
I'm not sure about moving up (unless it was into the lottery up) but I do like the idea of buying a draft pick. This draft has many of the type of players the Spurs could use. Even in the 20s. For example, both Walker and Batum could be available in the 20s. The question is, who is selling?
General question: cash considerations, how does that work? Can you only give as much as the player picked is due to make under the rookie scale, or something different?
Low-balling his potential I'd put him at Bonzi Wells. Having him live up to his potential....?
I guess you and I arguing his value is pretty pointless since the Spurs ultimately make that decision, but FWIW I think if the Spurs want him and have to move up to get him....they should do it.
$3M, max.
Usually adding cash to a draft day deal makes up for some relative value in the way of picks, but it doesn't usually absolve the gaining team from giving up future picks.
I'm sure they have charts on the value of each pick for this year and the next prior to going into the draft.
Classic.
Batum will be gone before pick 20. Too many teams see what everyone at ST sees. He's got way too much upside to land at 26...he'll be a tayshaun prince type of player.. and there aren't many teams that are willing to pass that up.
From what timVP is indicating, and I have no reason to doubt him, the Splitter rights are . This is deflating to me, but it is what it is. But maybe the Splitter rights are just the right kind of to make our 3 million more worthwhile than another team's 3 million.
I've said this elsewhere, but I'd feel out Phoenix at 15 and work my way back. Offer the 3 million and Splitter to everyone who is selling and see if you can't land another #1. Two firsts and a couple of fliers/stash aways in the second seem like the way to go. That improves our pipeline dramatically.
There's nothing preventing Splitter from moving to a richer European team if Tau can't keep him after two.
This is a very shallow draft, even a #10 pick is probably gonna be trash unless you get really, really lucky. With no luck, 4 years from now you won't know who he is.
21 pick? Most likely won't know who he is in after next season.
I disagree. I think there are going to be quite a few promising role players coming out of this draft.
I see the exact opposite...all i've heard these past few months is how deep this draft is. A guy like Batum would have gone top 5 in weaker drafts ('06).
The opposite, in my view. There are lots of question marks throughout the lottery; not even the top two players are certainties; several guys are considered top 10 locks who may not even be passable players, like Lopez and Gallinari; the top shooting guards have tons of question marks, like Bayless and Gordon; the big man prospects everywhere are untested and years away; a guy like Joe Alexander is zooming up the board as much out of board weakness than his strengths.
The draft is sketchy at every point, but this translates more to depth, because there is naturally less risk in later picks. It's the early second round where I see the most value, and perhaps the very late teens and 20-22.
Pretty much what you said, but the opposite.
nah. i think the Spurs just needs to stay at their current position and just roll the dice.
I think the Spurs should pinpoint their priorities and target key players that fit their needs. If they need to trade up to get those players then they should try to do so. I hope they don't just roll the dice. Obviously, it's hard to say who they'll be able to get in free agency, but I don't think they should expect anything and draft with their priorities in mind.
He'll be Bonzi if he does NOT pan out.
The main questions I have on him are that I have doubts he will be ready to contribute until year 3.
Is Ager for sure a washout? He looked like he had some promise at Michigan, and his first few summer league games with Dallas he put up a lot of points. But I didn't see him after that until the Kidd trade. I looked up his D-League stats, and he put up some points and knocked down 3's at a pretty good percentage.
A decent second-tier player would still have had a tough time making the Mavs roster the last couple of years, so the fact he didn't see minutes for them isn't necessarily a death sentence. Any chance of taking on his contract as part of a deal, and then actually getting some value from him?
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