Splitter signs a four-year extension with Tau

[T Park]

Not just Splitter's rights.

His rights aren't worth .

[timvp]

Splitter said last year before the draft and after the draft that he planned to come over this year. In his press conference with the Spurs, he gave no indication that he'd go back to Spain. He basically said "I have one more year that I have to get through in Spain". Then he was asked whether his buyout would be a problem and Splitter and RC said no it'd be no problem.

The main problem is Splitter became a star and a leader. Plus he got fed info from Tau that Pop hates rookies. Pop obviously didn't do anything to alleviate his fears.

Goodbye, Tiago.

See you never.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

How did he rest on his laurels?

BY drafting the best player available?

The Spurs FO relied too much on overseas picks, over the last three years.

To be fair, Spurs never have many great options because of their successes. So you can only blame them so much. But Pistons are example of another successful team, who make the best with what they got.

The International angle of developing players, that well has kinda dried up after the Scola debacle.
It's pretty apparent that there is a disconnect with the committments of these guys. Dealing with two agents. Euro contracts overlapping and conflicting with the NBA expectations of both players and salaries. It's becoming too much of a hassle in the last few years.

Spurs should have had at least two rookies to bring in, rather than, saying "eh, we're winning now, we can cut costs by waiting for them without having to develop them on our own bench, in the mean time cut more costs by signing cheap FA"

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He's like any other executive. Bad performance shouldn't override good feelings, not when the corporation is injured by this bad performance.

Buford really needs to be called onto the carpet. Splitter resigning is not his fault, but it does emphasize the fact that he has failed to get any young talent on this team whatsoever and, leaving aside Mahinmi for the moment (again, a Presti pet project), the Spurs' drafting and personnel management since Parker's draft has been a five year disaster.

We have a talented coach in Pop.
We have one of the greatest players ever in Duncan.
Our General Manager is not up to par, not by a long shot.

It's time for a change. This is his crunch time. If he can't get it done this summer, I say hit the road.

If you honestly think that R.C. does everything he does without getting Pop's blessing, you probably shouldn't be posting here.

[SequSpur]

Well, If I thought Obama had a chance to be prez, I wouldn't move here either.

[Mr. Body]

so, timvp, we are essentially stuck with this player's rights and are getting absolutely nothing out of it the whole time, except for it serving as a constant reminder of everything that can go wrong with draft-n-stash?

what can we do with him? where do the spurs go from here?

It's funny. DX had a sequence of articles last year about how the Euro market was pricing players out of the first round salary scale, especially late in the round. I never imagined Tiago Splitter would become the poster example of the phenomenon. This utterly screws the Spurs.

You can't do anything. I expect the Spurs will hang on to the rights and see what he wants to do in two years. They may try to sign him or trade the rights. In the meantime he's as valuable to us as Sergei Karaulov.

[T Park]

If you honestly think that R.C. does everything he does without getting Pop's blessing, you probably shouldn't be posting here.

Didn't take long.

[gospursgojas]

There wasn't anyone "american" where the Spurs were at was worth drafting instead of him.

So once again.....

What? The Spurs drafted the best available player?

What good does the best available player do you if he never touches the court?

We have like 4 or 5 euro busts and like 1 or 2 Tony/Manus.

[2centsworth]

He's like any other executive. Bad performance shouldn't override good feelings, not when the corporation is injured by this bad performance.

Buford really needs to be called onto the carpet. Splitter resigning is not his fault, but it does emphasize the fact that he has failed to get any young talent on this team whatsoever and, leaving aside Mahinmi for the moment (again, a Presti pet project), the Spurs' drafting and personnel management since Parker's draft has been a five year disaster.

We have a talented coach in Pop.
We have one of the greatest players ever in Duncan.
Our General Manager is not up to par, not by a long shot.

It's time for a change. This is his crunch time. If he can't get it done this summer, I say hit the road.

I've only been saying this for almost two years. His poor performance is catching-up with the team. Hopefully Pop can continue to recruit decent old guys.

[mVp]

So the many repeated quotes of saying he was going to the NBA in the summer or 2008 are made up?

Promises are overrated, words ain't worth nowadays.

[tp2021]

it seems as though the spurs, who may have started/set the interest in international players in motion, are the ones who will also begin the reversal.

poetic INJUSTICE!!!!!!!!

[Buddy Holly]

His rights aren't worth .

To a team looking long term they are.

[T Park]

The Spurs FO relied too much on overseas picks, over the last three years.

To be fair, Spurs never have many great options because of their successes. So you can only blame them so much. But Pistons are example of another successful team, who make the best with what they got.

The International angle of developing players, that well has kinda dried up after the Scola debacle.
It's pretty apparent that there is a disconnect with the committments of these guys. Dealing with two agents. Euro contracts overlapping and conflicting with the NBA expectations of both players and salaries. It's becoming too much of a hassle in the last few years.

Spurs should have had at least two rookies to bring in, rather than, saying "eh, we're winning now, we can cut costs by waiting for them without having to develop them on our own bench, in the mean time cut more costs by signing cheap FA"

Always easy to play armchair quarterback

[easjer]

There wasn't anyone "american" where the Spurs were at was worth drafting instead of him.

So once again.....

Oh, come on TPark, don't be obtuse.

Trade the pick. Set up a trade. Look other international players who might actually be available.

I'm not saying only draft Americans. I'm saying that they have GOT to STOP blowing the picks. YEARS of wasted picks now. There are other options besides wasting a first round pick (that apparently negatively affects then) on a player who may be unable to come over or contribute. This is not the first time the Spurs have been ed by this .

[T Park]

To a team looking long term they are.

Hes never coming to the NBA.

Wtf.

[Mr. Body]

Why do you think when Presti was up for the Seattle job, I said over and over that we should offer RC instead?

You were 100% right.

After kicking Buford out, given the shambles of Seattle moving to OK City, maybe we can get the bright one back.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So if the Spurs hadn't ed up this pick, here's who went after Tiago last year:

Carl Landry
Glen Davis
Dominic McGuire
Marc Gasol (hey, him, a bag of chips, and a sixer could have gotten us Pau...)
Taurean Green

Thanks, front office...

[Mr. Body]

If you honestly think that R.C. does everything he does without getting Pop's blessing, you probably shouldn't be posting here.

Where did you get that impression?

Pop is also coach, has value. The full time GM is the one who should go, n'est-ce pas? Do you understand? Comprende?

[T Park]

Oh, come on TPark, don't be obtuse.

Trade the pick. Set up a trade. Look other international players who might actually be available.

I'm not saying only draft Americans. I'm saying that they have GOT to STOP blowing the picks. YEARS of wasted picks now. There are other options besides wasting a first round pick (that apparently negatively affects then) on a player who may be unable to come over or contribute. This is not the first time the Spurs have been ed by this .

Its only a wasted pick, cause Tau went rogue and did something that wasn't expected.

Trade the pick?
Now everyone is ripping the Spurs for trading past picks, so everyone thats ripping on the front office needs to get on the same page.

[timvp]

so, timvp, we are essentially stuck with this player's rights and are getting absolutely nothing out of it the whole time, except for it serving as a constant reminder of everything that can go wrong with draft-n-stash?

what can we do with him? where do the spurs go from here?

Spurs will probably hold onto him. It'd be difficult to give him away at this point and he doesn't cost anything. If he doesn't make the jump in 2010, the Spurs will renounce his rights if they are going to follow through with the 2010 plan and try to open up caproom.

Basically, he'll have one more chance to come over in 2010 but no way he comes over that year. He'd have to take like pennies on the dollar to make the jump. Plus, RC and the Spurs are much more pissed than we are ... so I think that bridge is burned beyond repair.

Basically, the Spurs will either hold his worthless rights until comes the point they have to renounce his rights to open cap space.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Didn't take long.

So you think R.C. does what he does in a vacuum without Pop?

Tell me you're not this dense. Sounds like one too many times around the Tilt-a-whirl for you, if so.

[gospursgojas]

Spurs will probably hold onto him. It'd be difficult to give him away at this point and he doesn't cost anything. If he doesn't make the jump in 2010, the Spurs will renounce his rights if they are going to follow through with the 2010 plan and try to open up caproom.

Basically, he'll have one more chance to come over in 2010 but no way he comes over that year. He'd have to take like pennies on the dollar to make the jump. Plus, RC and the Spurs are much more pissed than we are ... so I think that bridge is burned beyond repair.

Basically, the Spurs will either hold his worthless rights until comes the point they have to renounce his rights to open cap space.

Scola part 2

[T Park]

So you think R.C. does what he does in a vacuum without Pop?

Tell me you're not this dense. Sounds like one too many times around the Tilt-a-whirl for you, if so.

Timvp and everyone else who has told you the stories about the Josh Howard draft and what not must be "as dense" as well.

[Kori Ellis]

Sorry but Splitter never "promised" he was coming to the NBA this summer. He might have said he planned on it, hoped to, wanted to, or whatever. But he didn't ever promise anything.

Things change all the time. He has family concerns. He's guaranteed playing time there. Lots more money. House/cars paid for. He's comfortable there. He knows what to expect for the coaches/organization/environment. There was a lot working against the Spurs. And I'm not sure they went there and tried to sell him either ... the Spurs don't beg people to play for them and maybe that's what it would take to convince him he was wanted/needed. If I was Splitter, I probably wouldn't come either.

[T Park]

Scola part 2

Scola was actually coming.

Splitter is never coming.