Bonner is a waste of a dollar.
The Spurs aren't making any money now.
His name is Splitter and he Split..... 'em. Moving along.
Ian isn't the answer to our problems either. As for drafting American...WTF is Marcus Williams worth right about now ? Not a whole lot. At least we had a chance with a talented 7 footer. No risk, no reward.
That being said, we need some help through the draft or free agency. Let's go raid Golden State's free agents.
Its whatever hit that Chump explained.
You're really hung up on it aren't you?
Yeah, it's not like a situation where the Spurs picked Splitter against his will. He specifically was saying he had only one more year in Spain and then would pay his buyout and come to the NBA.
The NBA is a multi-billion dollar industry. If you are going to say something, it's wrong to go back on your word. There were some difficult cir stances but nothing that should have made Splitter go from "I just have to get through my last year" to signing a four year extension.
I blame RC for falling for it and I blame Splitter for not being honest ... or not thinking through his decision. Splitter basically took $3M out of the Spurs pockets by having a change of heart.
Nothing in life is guaranteed. Can't say I blame him for taking the big money. If he gets bored of winning in Europe he can come over in 2010.
If we wouldn't have re-signed Bonner the hit would have been a couple hundred K at most.
Even keeping Butler and Bonner around and signing Scola for what he signed with Houston for, our lux tax penalty would have been maybe $5 million tops.
Still a far cry from your $20 million dollar tax hit.
Are you still living off your Mom's Allowance or what? Figure it out.
It has nothing to do with percentage, but the economy. It's the same got damn thing.
Every day you will be paying more taxes than yesterday. It's the Bush way, it's the government's way.
It's the Man's Way.
Search function.
When you're lamely attempting to deflect blame from the front office by saying that there was no way they could have kept Scola because he would have cost $20 million, yeah, I'm going to call your ass on it.
It doesn't matter if he said his intention was to come to the NBA. I believe it WAS his intention.
He didn't guarantee anything. He didn't sign anything.
When the time came, Splitter just weighed his options and didn't pick the Spurs.
I'm not sure how many people would have picked a job half way around the world for 1/8th the money, out of your comfort zone and away from your family.
Flashback to last year:
Spurs nab post from Brazil in first round
Mike Monroe
Express-news
Maintaining the successful pattern they have established during their run to four NBA championships since 1999, the Spurs on Thursday selected a talented international player who won’t join the team for at least one more season.
The Spurs made Tiago Splitter, a 6-foot-11, 232-pound post man from Brazil who has played professionally for seven seasons, the 28th selection of the first round of the 2007 NBA draft.
Because Splitter’s contract with Tau Cerámica, of the Spanish professional league, includes a hefty buyout clause for the coming season, he won’t be available for the Spurs this season. His contractual impediment, combined with the Spurs’ established willingness to wait for drafted players with international commitments, helped to make Splitter available when the Spurs made their selection.
"He’s a good, talented kid who is 6-11 and plays hard and is fundamentally sound," said Spurs general manger R.C. Buford. "You don’t often have the opportunity to get size like that that has played at a very, very high level all his life and had success."
Splitter, 22, has played since 2003 for Tau Cerámica, the same team for which Luis Scola plays. Scola is the Argentine forward the Spurs drafted in the second round in 2002, but who has not been able to get out of his contract with the Spanish team.
"Splitter’s contract is more defined," Buford said. "There shouldn’t be a problem a year from now.
"That had a definite impact on him being available for us this year. That, and the fact there were no freshman-eligible draft candidates a year ago, pushed more players into the draft this year and maybe pushed some selections back that wouldn’t have been there before."
The Spurs made Marcus Williams, a 6-foot-7 small forward from the University of Arizona, the first of their two selections in the second round, 33rd overall.
Just as they have done each of the past two drafts, the Spurs selected a player in the second round who was not listed in the NBA’s official draft media guide, a 224-page book that included biographical information on 124 other players.
The mystery pick this time was Giorgos Printezis, a forward from Greece who was traded almost as quickly as he was selected. The Spurs sent his draft rights to Toronto for a 2008 second-round pick.
Because Splitter won’t join the Spurs next season, this marks the seventh time since the Spurs won their first NBA le, in 1999, they did not enter the following season with a first-round pick on their roster. The last first-rounder to make the roster was Beno Udrih, the 28th pick in the 2004 draft. Tony Parker, the 28th pick in the 2001 draft, is the only other first-rounder picked by the Spurs to have played for the Spurs since 1999.
"I don’t know that anybody was going to help us next year," Buford said. "We were hoping to find young talent to be able to help us after this team transitions. Hopefully, it continues winning and transitions to another group that competes, and Splitter gives us that opportunity.
"There were some players we were interested in that might have been on the roster sooner that were also considered. It wasn’t a situation where we were just going to take a player and leave him over there. He was No. 2 on our draft board of the picks that were realistic for us, so we were excited to get him."
Splitter has intrigued NBA scouts since first submitting his name as draft-eligible in 2004, when he first showed up at the NBA’s predraft camp in Chicago. However, he withdrew his name then, and again in 2005 and 2006. Many NBA player personnel decision makers had him projected as a lottery pick in 2005 and 2006 before he withdrew his name.
Splitter averaged 11.2 points per game, on 61.3 percent shooting, in 28 games last season with Tau Cerámica in the Spanish League and 10.7 points per game, on 58 percent shooting, and 6.0 rebounds in 20 games with Tau Cerámica in Euroleague compe ion.
A member of the Brazilian National Team, Splitter was the youngest player in the 2002 FIBA World Championships in Indianapolis, playing at age 17.
The Spurs’ past four first-round selections have been international players: Brazilian Leandro Barbosa (2003, traded to Phoenix), Slovenian Beno Udrih (2004), Frenchman Ian Mahinmi (2005) and Splitter. The Spurs did not have a first-round pick last year, having traded it to the New York Knicks in the deal that brought center Nazr Mohammed to the club.
Williams, the 33rd pick of the draft, averaged 16.6 points and 6.7 rebounds in 30 games for Arizona last season. A first-team All-Pac-10 selection as a sop re, the 20-year-old Williams entered the draft after two seasons at Arizona. He made 49.4 percent of his shots last season despite making only 23 of 80 3-point shots.
"Marcus is an athletic wing we think can be a good defender," Buford said. "He came in very highly recruited. He was one of their best players and has a lot of potential. This draft, being deeper, allowed for a person of Marcus’ talent to be available in the second round, and that’s not often the case."
What the are you babbling about?
james is worth splitter
I was just trying to calm things down before there's another meltdown here
seriously,
I think Ian is happy a little bit right now.
Let's just hope the Spurs sign him and add an another big man from the league who can CONTRIBUTE IMMEDIATELY.
hmmn, some team might be thinking we will do another "Scola trading" again, we will let Splitter go that easy like we did w/ Houston again someday
search, either point me to the appropriate post or stfu and admit your wrong.
I just did the math right here in this thread.
but....
if scola would've contributed and let's say the Spurs beat the Lakers, then the Spurs would've made alot more money.
they traded scola for nothing, signed bonner, lost and now are still paying for bonner.
In his defense, he had semi commitments and his contract was over.
The only thing he fell for was Splitter saying he wanted to play in the NBA.
Thats all.
Whatever.
Chump and Bruno only explained it a million times, not my fault your a jerk and want to continue to insult me instead.
No need to be harsh on Mahinimi..IMO he looks very promising...remember that he is the only recent Euro to stick to his word & actually sign his first round contract plus he has done everything the Spurs have asked and more...its well known that he has been a gym rat whether it be with the Toro's or the Spurs. I'm pretty pissed about this whole Splitter thing too, but we should be encouraging Mahinmi, not dragging him into Scola part Deux
Ian isn't the answer to our problems either. As for drafting American...WTF is Marcus Williams worth right about now ? Not a whole lot. At least we had a chance with a talented 7 footer. No risk, no reward.
That being said, we need some help through the draft or free agency. Let's go raid Golden State's free agents.
Yeah, but paying that extra 5 million in luxury tax means Holt would have only made about $16 million off the Spurs this year instead of $21 million.
Can't have that...
F*** Tiago for staying at Tau while he has nothing to prove, going to the NBA is clearly not his dream or he would have been in the league a long time ago!
Does Brazil broadcast NBA games?
Goddamn you Hobbits are hard- ing-headed. Did you clearly state that the Spurs had people raise taxes? Yes, yes you did. The fact that you can't process the difference between raising and extending is mind boggling.
Even worse is that I think your entire of an argument is based on the price increase of the product[s] when that is totally separate from the tax percentage.
Yes, same different day, when dealing with SequTheHobbit.
I hope if we draft a big man he starts immediately and gets a huge contract once his rookie deal ends.
GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!
Tough guy!!
I also called the trade at the time stupid, wanna call me out on that one too?
Or are you gonna conveniently miss that, like when I shot down your " ed up" draft moves that you put up.
Wanna point me to the thread or link that says he made that much?
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