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    calling sam as soon as sonics move

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    It would be amazing. At least we'd have a GM who knew what the he was doing.

    Too bad Sam got the chance to prove he's a badass and took a better job. Now he gets the chance to build a great team by himself, without having to hide behind the mask known as RC Buford.

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    I too have always thought RC was overrated.

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    I always thought RC was overrated. Finding Manu and TP was shrewd and he deserves all the kudos because they both are a HUGE cogs in the Spurs machine. But has any GM continued to live off accolades and accomplishments of 7 years ago more than Buford? Only one other guy - Cowboys Owner, Jerry Jones. This is a "what have you done for me lately" kind-of-league. Truth is, RC hasn't done lately.

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    Pop and Buford are fine. No one has been better over the last decade and only a few have been better in the last couple years. Get a sense of proportion here.

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    Get a sense of proportion here.
    QFT

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    I always thought RC was overrated. Finding Manu and TP was shrewd and he deserves all the kudos because they both are a HUGE cogs in the Spurs machine. But has any GM continued to live off accolades and accomplishments of 7 years ago more than Buford? Only one other guy - Cowboys Owner, Jerry Jones. This is a "what have you done for me lately" kind-of-league. Truth is, RC hasn't done lately.
    just for the sake of arguement id like to add something to rattle somes cages....but mrsenor sir.....i am a true believer of the statement, what have you done for me lately?........and you sir are 100% correct....im not sure who has been running this team for the last 3 seasons, but some of the bonehead moves theses guys have made within the last 2 yrs have been complete, god i hope this works kinda moves.....in short they went from being great to not even solid.......reminds me of some of the boneheads move bob bass used to make

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    Pop and Buford are fine. No one has been better over the last decade and only a few have been better in the last couple years. Get a sense of proportion here.
    They have not been good. They have made more bad moves than good moves. A big part of the spurs success was landing Duncan and that was on a lucky lottery ball.

    List all the good moves and there are twice as many bad moves. Or worse yet non moves of doing nothing, especially with trades.

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    just for the sake of arguement id like to add something to rattle somes cages....but mrsenor sir.....i am a true believer of the statement, what have you done for me lately?........and you sir are 100% correct....im not sure who has been running this team for the last 3 seasons, but some of the bonehead moves theses guys have made within the last 2 yrs have been complete, god i hope this works kinda moves.....in short they went from being great to not even solid.......reminds me of some of the boneheads move bob bass used to make
    Bonehead moves? Which?

    The Spurs won the NBA le a year ago and were in the WCF this season. That's a small margin of error. Pop and Buford are at the core of, perhaps, the most competent organization in all of sports. What else do you want from these guys? Every season for the last decade they've either won, or have been pretty damn close to winning, the le. Is there another team in the NBA you can say that about?

    Step away from the cliff. Stop being so fickle.

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    They have not been good. They have made more bad moves than good moves. A big part of the spurs success was landing Duncan and that was on a lucky lottery ball.

    List all the good moves and there are twice as many bad moves. Or worse yet non moves of doing nothing, especially with trades.
    You're beyond reason. They get paid to put championship teams together. They do that. They're earning their keep. This shouldn't be a conversation.

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    Bad moves.
    Steve Smith(HITA), Rasho, S Jackson, Going after Kidd, Splitter, Elson, Scola
    Hedon't, trading Barbosa, not recognizing to draft J Howard, resigning Bonner, not making any big moves that help the team with all star talent with trades in over 10 years.

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    Pop and Buford are fine. No one has been better over the last decade and only a few have been better in the last couple years. Get a sense of proportion here.
    Indeed. With a low 1st round pick the Spurs took a bet on a lottery pick talent being available in a year. At worst, that talent never comes over. Maybe it comes over in 2 years.

    It's amusing that Spurs fans are holding RC to the standard of being able to pull All-Star level talent out of low 1st and 2nd round picks every year. Of course, Mahinmi may be yet another.

    Spurs fans are some spoiled mother ers.

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    Bad moves.
    Steve Smith(HITA), Rasho, S Jackson, Going after Kidd, Splitter, Elson, Scola
    Hedon't, trading Barbosa, not recognizing to draft J Howard, resigning Bonner, not making any big moves that help the team with all star talent with trades in over 10 years.

    Relative, my friend. Over the last decade, which GMs have been better? If Buford was dismissed we do you expect to replace him and be his better? In the last two years, which GMs have been better? Dumars? Pritchard? Presti?

    Buford recently drafted a kid, who looks pretty good, that wasn't in the league media guy. He does his due diligence. He's found two superstars with low draft picks.

    You're insane.

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    Bad moves.
    Steve Smith(HITA), Rasho, S Jackson, Going after Kidd, Splitter, Elson, Scola
    Hedon't, trading Barbosa, not recognizing to draft J Howard, resigning Bonner, not making any big moves that help the team with all star talent with trades in over 10 years.
    That's a pretty ing stupid criticism.

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    J howard is not that great
    he is overrated by many spurs fans

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    You're beyond reason. They get paid to put championship teams together. They do that. They're earning their keep. This shouldn't be a conversation.
    They have won despite the lack of good moves. Theyt have made two great draft picks and the lucky lottry balls that landed duncan and Robinson and that is the key to the teams success. No lucky lottery balls and no championships.

    What boston has done this year and LA has done to acquire players thrumps anything the spurs front office has done. Boston has turned their team around in one year with trades. The lakers have acquired all star talent through trades that led to les without the benefit of landing franchise players with lucky lottery picks.

    I hate to think what the spurs would be if they solely relied only on their front office moves to acquire talent.

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    Ah yes, it's all Duncan.

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    RC is limited by the ownership group which sets his budget and Pop who pretty much demands that his players be ready to play championship basketball.

    So RC made a run at Kidd. So what? Spurs fans want a GM who makes big splashy trades and tries to land superstars, yet when he does they about it.

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    Boston and LA? You refer to two clear cases of collusion (McHale and West) as an example of better managment. Those are two examples of incompetence and betrayal.

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    RC is limited by the ownership group which sets his budget and Pop who pretty much demands that his players be ready to play championship basketball.

    So RC made a run at Kidd. So what? Spurs fans want a GM who makes big splashy trades and tries to land superstars, yet when he does they about it.

    Kidd was a dumb move when they already had parker and a team that was not built to run the break.

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    Kidd was a dumb move when they already had parker and a team that was not built to run the break.
    Hindsight is always 20/20. Going after '03 Kidd wasn't a bad move. Anyways, how'd they land Parker? Did Duncan make that pick?

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    Hindsight is always 20/20. Going after '03 Kidd wasn't a bad move. Anyways, how'd they land Parker? Did Duncan make that pick?


    Yes it was a bad move targeting Kidd and making all their moves to perserve cap space for 3 years and ending up with Rasho. They already had a young future star point guard in parker. These type of decisions have left the spurs with no young stars at this time outside of parker.

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    So they shouldn't attempt to acquire stars, but they are because they don't attempt to land them. Got it.

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    And I guess Mahinmi doesn't exist.

    Spurs fans are some whiny spoiled mother ers.

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    Mahinmi jury is still out

    it has been 8 years
    since tp and manu
    I know picks are late but move up or trade down

    I would have went hard after oneal instead of kidd
    but that is a blessing because j oneal is always hurt

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