He's not a Marxist but he was right about guns and religion anyway- in a rudimentary manner economic conditions do influence the cultural superstructure, whether die hard capitalists want to admit it or not.
BTW, I'm not calling him a marxist because he's a liberal, that's an idiot defense for you Obamalovers. I'm calling him a marxist based on his platform ideals.
All he's missing is a hammer and sickle pin for his suit.
He's not a Marxist but he was right about guns and religion anyway- in a rudimentary manner economic conditions do influence the cultural superstructure, whether die hard capitalists want to admit it or not.
I have to admit that you present the most compelling argument for Obama on these boards. As someone who is on the fence about who to vote for and probably will be until the exact time I walk into the booth, I'm going to tell you that it's much appreciated.
boutons_, you could learn a thing or two from Mr. Peabody.
I agree. Having an intelligent, well rounded person such as Obama in the WhiteHouse as opposed to a complete ing warpig moron will be quite refreshing. To say the least. And even though these idiotic right wingers will say otherwise the next four to eight years are going to be much more beneficial for most Americans than the last eight. That much is certain.
even if that person is a republican? there is no way a socialist black man will win the white house.
That's pretty much where I stand, too. I don't say Obama's a socialist because he's a liberal (as if to imply all libs are socialists -- they're not). I say he's a socialist because he (A) wants govt-run health care, (B) wants to use the tax code to engender "fairness," and (C) certainly buys into liberation theology to some degree, which is rooted in class warfare. So the ingredients are there, even of St. Barry is not a Marxist per se.
I would, if I thought that, but I don't.
Your rhetorical skills are unmatched. This is some awesome argument you're putting forth. Gosh, maybe I should vote for Obama now.i have no doubt that you're an idiot. why don't you crawl back into your trailer with banjo, duct tape and plastic. you can sit this one out.
1) Don't call me a Bush lover. This is one of many examples where Bush revealed the depths of his idiocy.boy blunder looked into putin's eyes and fell in love.
china is our new sugar daddy, watch your mouth.
france? good food, overall, a great vacation.
why do you care about chavez?
2) China is everyone's sugar daddy these days. That doesn't mean they're an exemplar of human rights and equality.
3) I wasn't talking about France the country or France the people. Their government's position on how we conduct our business is at the very least a case (and really, it's much more than) of "Physician, heal thyself".
4) Chavez is a murderous socialist asshole. If he thinks we're doing something wrong, I'm sure we're doing it right.
Dip , diplomacy is not "Oh, excuse me, Mr. Rest of the World? How should we invest our resources?"; Diplomacy is "This is what we want - tell us what you want, and we'll find a middle ground."if not, you should go back and learn something about diplomacy.
bravo on the diplomacy analogy.
i think we should give it a shot.
HUSSEIN! = sharia
HUSSEIN! = communist
HUSSEIN! = Muslim
HUSSEIN! = unAmerican/anti-patriotic
Sick Old Stupid McFlopPanderKeating is gonna get destroyed by "support" from such slime-bots.
Combined with Sick Old Stupid McFlopPanderKeating's 100% identification with all of dubya's disasters, esp Iraq, John Boy is roadkill.
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I'm fine with diplomacy; acquiescence to the demands of other nations is a policy I'm not interested in.bravo on the diplomacy analogy.
i think we should give it a shot.
Surely, there is a happy medium between Bush and Obama in terms of diplomatic philosophy? Or do you just see the (R) after McCain's name and think "Bush"?
Do not use Obama's middle name for political purposes. That's inappropriate.HUSSEIN! = sharia
HUSSEIN! = communist
HUSSEIN! = unAmerican/anti-patriotic
Sick Old Stupid McFlopPanderKeating is gonna get destroyed by "support" from such slime-bots.
Combined with Sick Old Stupid McFlopPanderKeating's 100% identification with all of dubya's disasters, esp Iraq, John Boy is roadkill.
i think it's silly to suggest that obama would agree to any demands, don't you?
I should have said "requests". My bad.i think it's silly to suggest that obama would agree to any demands, don't you?
What I'm getting at here is that Obama seems to believe strongly that restoring America's image abroad is one of the most important tasks the next President faces. If he does, I could see him agreeing to something completely asinine and detrimental to our interests in an attempt to curry favor with nations who aren't inclined to like us no matter who the President is.
you mean like, oh, giving missles to hostile nations in exchange for something?
Gosh, you got me. I totally advocated that.you mean like, oh, giving missles to hostile nations in exchange for something?![]()
just trying to make a point, however, i do sense that you are somewhat susceptible to the propaganda that was designed to make you fear the future democrat yet totally ignore the past republican.
So, are you stuck on stupid or what?
Where did anyone get all righteous about sharia/Muslim ?
And if you think he doesn't qualify as a marxist/communist, you don't understand a damn thing about that ideology at all.
I guess mommy didn't teach you about the ideas of communism in home school...
Right, it's okay to use McFlopPanderKeating, head, Shrub.
But if you use Hussein you're a piece of Republican
Welcome to the wonderful world of croutons.
The past republican sucked donkey balls. That doesn't mean Obama should get a free pass to over our future in some sort of global student body president campaign.
oh, you didn't say that you feel you haven't been ed over enough.
carry on.
let's forget about the past and pretend we see the future.
let's ignore the past, vote mccain, and see if bush can claim the 2nd worst pres. in american history............or..........give intelligence a shot.
after all, isn't that what threatens you?
If you hired a company to provide parts for the machine you manufacture, and they sent you a defective product, would you reward them with another contract?
If that company proved in the past many times that it puts out good products and this was an exception, then yes I would reward them with another contract.
Just vote and move on!!!!!
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so you would stick with that company even though the defective part can only be replace evey 4 years?
logical.
The problem is its not a clear analogy. You could argue that Clinton, Johnson, Carter, etc.. were all defective parts. Do you think its fair to not vote for Obama because of Carter and Johnson's failed presidency's?
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