Obama's positions on issues

[cajunspur]

I see the thread below about Obama's accomplishments or reasons he should get your vote. I read the first page and didn't see one listed.

The only things I do know about his actual positions are:

- He voted against banning partial birth abortion

- He is for universal healthcare

- He has mentioned having everyone pay for mortgages that people can't pay off by themselves.

- He wants to cut and run in Iraq

- Some people say he has mentioned reparations for slavery, but I cant see this being true.

It seems he talks about Hope and Change and never talks about what he would do to solve the issues. I could tell you most of Mccain's stances on issues, but hardly any of Obamas.

[JoeChalupa]

I see the thread below about Obama's accomplishments or reasons he should get your vote. I read the first page and didn't see one listed.

The only things I do know about his actual positions are:

- He voted against banning partial birth abortion

- He is for universal healthcare

- He has mentioned having everyone pay for mortgages that people can't pay off by themselves.

- He wants to cut and run in Iraq

- Some people say he has mentioned reparations for slavery, but I cant see this being true.

It seems he talks about Hope and Change and never talks about what he would do to solve the issues. I could tell you most of Mccain's stances on issues, but hardly any of Obamas.

Go to his website or google it. His votes are public knowledge. Most voters vote from the gut and they always have. Before the internet and TV do you think voters knew, many still don't today, about the positions of their candidates? You really think voters gave serious thought before voting for Bush? Most voted for him because he was the guy they felt more comfortable "having a beer" with. Yeah, that's a great way to select a president. But it happens the majority of the time.

Just like in the military. You get a bunch of guys together and send them out to do something and a leader will emerge and others will follow not knowing a damn thing about him but just having that gut feeling that he is their leader.

Do your own research and make up your own mind. I've made up my mind to support Obama and I got that feeling in my guts years ago.

[cajunspur]

Can you name a few issues you agree with him on? You still havent answered my question

[clambake]

he wants to change this broken machine. he wants to put political action groups and lobbyist in a box. (bravo)

he wants a real govt. in iraq. not this stupid situation that exist now. we are paying the real power brokers simply not to kill our troops.

he wants americans to have healthcare. people that rail against this need mental healthcare.

he wants the filthy rich to quit getting a free ride on our tail.

he wants to restore our country's image. people that rail against this need mental healthcare.

[xrayzebra]

he wants to change this broken machine. he wants to put political action groups and lobbyist in a box. (bravo)

he wants a real govt. in iraq. not this stupid situation that exist now. we are paying the real power brokers simply not to kill our troops.

he wants americans to have healthcare. people that rail against this need mental healthcare.

he wants the filthy rich to quit getting a free ride on our tail.

he wants to restore our country's image. people that rail against this need mental healthcare.

He can want in one hand and crap in the other and guess
which one will get full the fastest.

His buddy Tony Rezko going to jail so now he doesn't want
to take anyone else money. Obama can sure pick his
friends.

Is he also going to give up his wife and his millions. Or,
are you just referring to other rich people.

[JoeChalupa]

Can you name a few issues you agree with him on? You still havent answered my question

I wasn't planning on answering your question. Why does it matter to you what I agree with Obama on? Surely you can make up your own decision without any help from me.

But I do agree with opposition to the Iraq War.
I agree with his position regarding contributions from lobbyists.
I like his plan on health care.
I like his plan for college tuition credits for those who serve.
I agree with his position on veterans benefits.
I like his idea of pulling in the best people regardless of their political party affiliation.

I've always liked and admired McCain but at this point I'm going with Obama.

[JoeChalupa]

He can want in one hand and crap in the other and guess
which one will get full the fastest.

His buddy Tony Rezko going to jail so now he doesn't want
to take anyone else money. Obama can sure pick his
friends.

Is he also going to give up his wife and his millions. Or,
are you just referring to other rich people.

Yeah, I mean with friends like Bush, Cheney, Rummney, Rice, Libby. Hagee..why would anyone question McCain? Is McCain going to give up his rich wife?
Get real Xray.

[cajunspur]

1 he wants to change this broken machine. he wants to put political action groups and lobbyist in a box. (bravo)

2 he wants a real govt. in iraq. not this stupid situation that exist now. we are paying the real power brokers simply not to kill our troops.

3 he wants americans to have healthcare. people that rail against this need mental healthcare.

4 he wants the filthy rich to quit getting a free ride on our tail.

5 he wants to restore our country's image. people that rail against this need mental healthcare.

1. Nice political speak. Every politician says this

2. Don't we all. This is not really a position. Its more nice political speak

3. I want Americans to have healthcare as well. I work hard for a company and have purchased their helathcare plan. More Americans need to do the same instead of relying on the government. The universal healthcare system would bankrupt the government not to mention diminish the quality of care and increase the time frame it takes to get treated.

4. Free ride? The filthy rich as you call them pay I believe near 50% in taxes. These people have worked hard to get where they are it. They should of course pay taxes, but they have nothing close to a free ride.

5. More nice political speak. How is he going to do it?

[xrayzebra]

Yeah, I mean with friends like Bush, Cheney, Rummney, Rice, Libby. Hagee..why would anyone question McCain? Is McCain going to give up his rich wife?
Get real Xray.

Well, McCain might, or she might. Who knows. I understand
there were prenuptial agreements made before they were
married. So guess he doesn't have access to them.

As far as Bush, Cheney, Rummey, Rice and Libby. I see
nothing wrong with them. The are smart people who work
the system just as the dimms do.

You act like lobbyist are the worst thing that ever happened
to government. Do you include the Sierra club, Hispanic
groups, NAACP in your statement. Because they too
employ and do lobbying. Which is a basic freedom in our
country. The groups I mention also collect many dollars
and given them to politicians, which they have the freedom
to do. So don't paint with too wide a brush cause you
might find out you have a little paint on your hands.

[JoeChalupa]

Well, McCain might, or she might. Who knows. I understand
there were prenuptial agreements made before they were
married. So guess he doesn't have access to them.

As far as Bush, Cheney, Rummey, Rice and Libby. I see
nothing wrong with them. The are smart people who work
the system just as the dimms do.

You act like lobbyist are the worst thing that ever happened
to government. Do you include the Sierra club, Hispanic
groups, NAACP in your statement. Because they too
employ and do lobbying. Which is a basic freedom in our
country. The groups I mention also collect many dollars
and given them to politicians, which they have the freedom
to do. So don't paint with too wide a brush cause you
might find out you have a little paint on your hands.

Well, they were smart enough to dupe you and many others. But I see through their BS.
ANY lobbyists.
You shouldn't take about painting with a wide brush since you do it on a daily basis. So I'd listen to your own advice.

[xrayzebra]

Well, they were smart enough to dupe you and many others. But I see through their BS.
ANY lobbyists.
You shouldn't take about painting with a wide brush since you do it on a daily basis. So I'd listen to your own advice.

I find your statement about any lobbyist a little bit far
fetched. Sorry, but I just don't believe you.

[clambake]

#3 is the equivelent of yelling fire in a theater, no fire, just panic.

#1and 2. it can't be a position until it has the chance to make an affect.

#4 we should stop providing huge tax breaks to oil and reverse the bailout of the rich regarding their mortgage explosion. these are free rides on our tail, mate.

#5 he'll have some help from this democratic congress.

you probably don't have to worry about any of this. you can feel safe in the fear that republicans have provided.

[Don Quixote]

I'm not so sure that support for Obama has much to do with the issues. He's a mentality, an at ude, a new outlook on government, a movement.

[clambake]

I'm not so sure that support for Obama has much to do with the issues. He's a mentality, an at ude, a new outlook on government, a movement.

good post. all of these things have been missing too long.

[JoeChalupa]

I find your statement about any lobbyist a little bit far
fetched. Sorry, but I just don't believe you.

That is the problem. But I've seen your refusal to believe other things.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm not so sure that support for Obama has much to do with the issues. He's a mentality, an at ude, a new outlook on government, a movement.

More often than not voters, IMO, over look some disagreement with issues and vote for the candidate they like best. It can be that simple.

Most conservatives that I know don't like McCain at all and don't agree with most of his positions but are voting for him because he is a republican.

[Don Quixote]

Half-true. Republicans tend stay home and vote for their party's guy unless there is compelling reason to take their vote elsewhere. Same goes for Democrats, by the way.

But like I said, campaigns built around a cult of personality (i.e., Obama) inevitably devolve into an up-or-down vote on the object of devotion. McCain may as well not even be running -- this election is all about the Anointed One. And I suspect that the majority of conservative types will object to (a) Obama's questionable connections, (b) his tax-spend-regulate approach to government, and (c) his naive foreign policy (the foreign thugs will eat his lunch) and eventually come around to McCain, even if he is a weenie.

[cajunspur]

I'm not so sure that support for Obama has much to do with the issues. He's a mentality, an at ude, a new outlook on government, a movement.

So you should vote for somebody for their at ude, mentality and outlook? What if your boss kept saying things "Lets change the way we do things around here" " And lets hope for a better work environment" But never had any ideas to put in place to make the company, work environment, company's image better. You can speak this nonsense all day but if you have no ideas of how to get done it is just nonsense.

[cajunspur]

Most conservatives that I know don't like McCain at all and don't agree with most of his positions but are voting for him because he is a republican.

They are voting for Mccain because they agree with more of his positions than Obamas

[cajunspur]

#3 is the equivelent of yelling fire in a theater, no fire, just panic.

#1and 2. it can't be a position until it has the chance to make an affect.

#4 we should stop providing huge tax breaks to oil and reverse the bailout of the rich regarding their mortgage explosion. these are free rides on our tail, mate.

#5 he'll have some help from this democratic congress.

you probably don't have to worry about any of this. you can feel safe in the fear that republicans have provided.

#3 makes no sense.

so you admit 1 and 2 are nonsense

#5. The democratic congress that has a worse approval rating than Bush?

[Don Quixote]

I agree. Obama speaks in gassy pla udes. When you nail him down on specifics, he gets into iden y politics (us vs. them), taxes as the solution, and other tired ideas from bygone eras.

[clambake]

mccains decisions change on a daily basis. not entirely his fault. he has to figure out who wants what and when like he's picking a horse at the track.

[AZLouis]

Can you name a few issues you agree with him on? You still havent answered my question

It's a loaded question.

Anybody answers and they and their reasonings will get lambasted by those who don't agree.

Meanwhile those who choose not to answer will be sufficient reason enough for you to say nobody can name a reason why they support Obama.

[clambake]

i love mccains idea of 10 townhall meetings with obama.

make it 20 or 30.

make them last at least 3 hours each.

[cajunspur]

i love mccains idea of 10 townhall meetings with obama.

make it 20 or 30.

make them last at least 3 hours each.

I think it shows how the 2 candidates are different:

Mccain actually has an idea on how to make the debates and discussions between candidates better.
Obama just wants to "change" the way we do it and "hope" it gets better. He doesnt offer any ideas for doing so