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    Racism is alive and well in the USA. Always has and always will be. But together we can make things better. YES WE CAN!!!
    You sound like Obama. Saying we can do something tough but not giving a way to do it.

    Also Racism does exist. There are white racists, black racists (look at Rev Wright), etc...
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    when the possiblility of obama becoming a reality approaches, you'll change your mind.
    Don't you read my posts?

    I have maintained for some time that either McCain or Obama will up this country. I would rather see Obama elected than McCain for that reason so the blame falls on democrats rather than republicans!
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    I've heard that line of reasoning before from other conservatives, and I respect it. But it doesn't take into account the sheer amount of screwed-up stuff a liberal President and legislature would pass, without opposition, in two years.

    A better solution would be to hold your nose, pull the lever for McCain, and pray. Hunker down for 2-4 years, because it's going to get rough for us. I am optimistic that a McCain presidency will tork off enough conservatives to cause them to re-emerge at some point in the near future. And we at least have some protection against the radical, unchecked liberalism of an Obama presidency.

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    don't worry, bubba's gonna go white.

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    Don't you rad my posts?

    I have maintained for some time that either McCain or Obama will up this country. I would rather see Obama elected than McCain for that reason so the blame falls on democrats rather than republicans!
    Are you kidding me? If Obama is elected and his term is plagued with mistakes or problems, all of the blame will be put on the Bush administration. Economy starts to falter, well its Bush's policies; God forbid another attack on the US, Bush's war in Iraq made the US vulnerable; Iran develops a nuclear weapon; Bush didnt sit down and talk to Ihmanutjob.

    Look at 9/11, they blame the Bush administration and completely overlook anything the Clinton adminstration did to combat terrorism. But you cant even have a normal discussion about it because they start with the name calling and lunatic rants. (which is why I like boutons, he has it all)

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    Are you kidding me? If Obama is elected and his term is plagued with mistakes or problems, all of the blame will be put on the Bush administration. Economy starts to falter, well its Bush's policies; God forbid another attack on the US, Bush's war in Iraq made the US vulnerable; Iran develops a nuclear weapon; Bush didnt sit down and talk to Ihmanutjob.

    Look at 9/11, they blame the Bush administration and completely overlook anything the Clinton adminstration did to combat terrorism. But you cant even have a normal discussion about it because they start with the name calling and lunatic rants. (which is why I like boutons, he has it all)
    someone didn't turn in their current event project.

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    Look at 9/11, they blame the Bush administration and completely overlook anything the Clinton adminstration did to combat terrorism. But you cant even have a normal discussion about it because they start with the name calling and lunatic rants.
    That's the problem -- ineffectual as it was, Clinton actually DID things regarding terrorism before 9/11. The Bush administration actively dismantled the cabinet-level counterterrorism and did nothing to build on or escalate the Clinton actions.

    It's very difficult to say any one action could have stopped 9/11, but it is clear that it would have taken a more aggressive policy than the Clinton administration had carried out. Unfortunately, Bush initially went in the other direction.

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    Yeah, can someone PLEASE tell me why they support John McCain?

    Please?

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    I don't if any of the righties on this board view McCain as the Last Great Hope. We have realistic expectations for our guy -- that he might be conservative on a few things (abortion, pork) and that he won't screw things up nearly as much as the compe ion. But there are few real devotees to McCain outside of the ones who are actually working for him, or the (moderate) Republican establishment.
    Translation:

    "McCain isn't a democrat."

    Ok then, I guess I have my answer.

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    Translation:

    "McCain isn't a democrat."

    Ok then, I guess I have my answer.
    Go read my initial post on this topic. I gave an answer

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    Yeah, can someone PLEASE tell me why they support John McCain?

    Please?
    Conservative economic policy and moderate social agenda. Spent over 20yrs in the military and commanded the largest squadron in the Navy (re: leadership experience).

    He's committed to reaching an end-state in Iraq suitable for our troops to come home, which is the better option in the long-term than leaving right now, IMO.

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