wtf garnett

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Not if you're looking to free up cap space like Memphis was.

And how come every thread is inevitably turning into a discourse on the Lakers either being lucky, worse than SA or conspiracy. I haven't read this thread besides the last post, but I was expecting it to be a discussion on KG's FG% not LA's collusion conspiracy.

i have no clue how that happened either. i rarely ever comment in these forums about the "conspiracy" thing though. i just said that other teams offered more in value, yet they didnt take it. and if they were only looking to free up cap space, then how come when other teams offered massive expiring contracts for Mike Miller, they suddenly wanted equal value? what sense does that make?

but im done with that for now though. back to the point. KG sucks balls. lol

[DazedAndConfused]

i have no clue how that happened either. i rarely ever comment in these forums about the "conspiracy" thing though. i just said that other teams offered more in value, yet they didnt take it. and if they were only looking to free up cap space, then how come when other teams offered massive expiring contracts for Mike Miller, they suddenly wanted equal value? what sense does that make?

but im done with that for now though. back to the point. KG sucks balls. lol

MEM tried to move Gasol last year for equal value. They didn't get any good offers and decided to hold onto him. By the trade deadline this season the Grizzlies had won something like 13 games, clearly Gasol wasn't working in MEM. Since they weren't going to get good value for him and didn't want to be burdened with more contracts, they went for a pure salary dump. You also need to understand that the owner wants to sell the team and the best way to do that is to give the new owners a team that is essentially theirs to build from the ground up, instead of one that is hampered by long term contracts.

Their owner said to their GM to get the biggest expiring you can find, some draft picks, and young talent. The Lakers had everything they needed and were willing to make the trade immediately. They were just in the right place at the right time and benefited from having exactly what MEM was looking for. Remember NOH was in this same situation a few years back when they got rid of Baron Davis for nothing. With the right GM moves the Grizzlies are capable of bouncing back and building a strong team. Unfortunately for them their current GM and owner is an idiot.

[JamStone]

that le belongs to Paul Pierce. KG is the reason they won 66 regular season games though, if that means anything. but in the playoffs, its been all about Paul Pierce, hands down. if it wasnt for Pierce, no way in do they beat Cleveland for instance.

Chicken and egg argument.

Without KG, Celtics aren't even in position for Pierce to take over the handful of games in the playoffs where he has.

[TDfan2007]

Watching KG in last night's game was hilarious, it was almost as if he was trying to let his team down.

But let's not be hypocrites here, Tim wasn't exactly Mr. Fourth Quarter this postseason. He layed an egg in just about every fourth quarter except for game 3 against LA and played HORRIBLY in the second half of every road game against NO.

I'm starting to think that on top of not having the balls to take and make shots in the clutch, KG is also getting worn down by then ala Tim. Both of these guys are 32 with a lot of milage on them so it makes sense that their stamina is starting to falter.

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Chicken and egg argument.

Without KG, Celtics aren't even in position for Pierce to take over the handful of games in the playoffs where he has.

ing wrong.

if they hadn't traded Garnett, they would have had Al Jefferson, which would have been more than enough between him, paul pierce, and ray allen to get into the playoffs. and Al Jefferson IMO is more suited as a playoff style player than Garnett, as he is actually a post presence and scores down low.

[JamStone]

Pure conjecture.

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Or have a 5 point, 3 rebound performance like he did in game 1 of the Hornets series...

Yeah because someone trying to get over a fever from the night before will immediately put up a triple double

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Pure conjecture.

just like saying without KG they would not make the playoffs.

[mattb_25]

MEM tried to move Gasol last year for equal value. They didn't get any good offers and decided to hold onto him. By the trade deadline this season the Grizzlies had won something like 13 games, clearly Gasol wasn't working in MEM. Since they weren't going to get good value for him and didn't want to be burdened with more contracts, they went for a pure salary dump. You also need to understand that the owner wants to sell the team and the best way to do that is to give the new owners a team that is essentially theirs to build from the ground up, instead of one that is hampered by long term contracts.

Their owner said to their GM to get the biggest expiring you can find, some draft picks, and young talent. The Lakers had everything they needed and were willing to make the trade immediately. They were just in the right place at the right time and benefited from having exactly what MEM was looking for. Remember NOH was in this same situation a few years back when they got rid of Baron Davis for nothing. With the right GM moves the Grizzlies are capable of bouncing back and building a strong team. Unfortunately for them their current GM and owner is an idiot.

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[JamStone]

just like saying without KG they would not make the playoffs.

More evidence to that contention, as last year's Boston Celtics team and this past season's Minnesota Timberwolves team would give better indications of that claim.

[JamStone]

Yeah because someone trying to get over a fever from the night before will immediately put up a triple double

No, not a triple double. But, how about more than one made field goal and more than 3 rebounds from the best power forward in the history of the game, fever or not?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Or have a 5 point, 3 rebound performance like he did in game 1 of the Hornets series...

[NBA Junkie]

I like how people are calling KG a choker in game one, yet, he did all of the intangible things in the second half to help the Celtics win.

Take, for example, that hustle play he made to avoid a backcourt violation that led to a Sam Cassell hoop and a five point lead. Big momentum changer, IMO.

[KidCongo]

I want Boston to win but still don't like Pierce. Rather him having 1 ring than Kobe winning his 4th and 1st as the man.

[Ghazi]

ing wrong.

if they hadn't traded Garnett, they would have had Al Jefferson, which would have been more than enough between him, paul pierce, and ray allen to get into the playoffs. and Al Jefferson IMO is more suited as a playoff style player than Garnett, as he is actually a post presence and scores down low.

Kevin Garnett is one of the best defenders in the league, Al Jefferson is one of the worst defenders in the league.

They would not be in the Finals with Al Jefferson in place of Kevin Garnett, believe that.

[dickface]

Kevin Garnett is one of the best defenders in the league, Al Jefferson is one of the worst defenders in the league.

What idiot told you that, and why did you believe him?

[Ghazi]

The Twolves defense actually got 12 points per 100 possessions better when Al Jefferson went off the court. This is an alarming stat, and probably a good indicator that he is a horrible defender.

Now I didn't watch the T-Wolves often so I can't really say, but stats like that aren't flukes. The bottom line is, KG > Al, Celtics not in Finals with Al.

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More evidence to that contention, as last year's Boston Celtics team and this past season's Minnesota Timberwolves team would give better indications of that claim.

no, not really. that was proven in the Malone and Payton signings by LA the other year. everyone thought it was a dream team, and they got owned in the finals. every year is different.